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    Pulsar 180 Vs Apache RTR 180

    I'm interested in these two bikes
    the apache rtr 180 and the pulsar 180

    i travel 15-20 kms everyday
    rare tourer. About max 150-150 kms(up and down) in a year.(i do love touring. Maybe someday i will go further.)

    My Queries on Apache 180

    Vibration

    1>>>>How bad is it? Rode the hyperedge at 70kmph....didn't feel any vibes
    2>>>>Heard the vibrations start at mid 60s and ends at mid 70s. Also heard another theory that the vibe starts at mid 60s and doesn't end. Which is true?
    3>>>>how good of a touring bike is it?(i don't go above 100 kmph. So is the bike smooth till then?)

    Mileage
    1>>> i need atleast 45kmpl in the city

    VFM
    Is this worth buying when i have to compromise on non-smoothness and lesser mileage?

    on pulsar 180
    1>>>is the pickup as good as the rtr. How much of a difference is there between these two bikes with respect to acceleration?
    2>>>Whenever there is a comparision reviews between 200+ccs, apache 180 is also included but never the pulsar 180...why? Is the apache 180 that good or is the pulsar 180 that bad?

    Are there any other bikes in the 180 segment?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by princeot View Post
      2>>>Whenever there is a comparision reviews between 200+ccs, apache 180 is also included but never the pulsar 180...why? Is the apache 180 that good or is the pulsar 180 that bad?

      Are there any other bikes in the 180 segment?
      Bcz Apache 180 is a bit faster than P180 I guess. also RTR 180 represents the TVS as a flagship model but P180 is not the flagship model of Bajaj. Bajaj's flagship model is P220 and almost launched P200NS.
      There aren't any other bikes in the 180cc segment. 200NS is bigger but much more powerful than these bikes and much expensive too yet worth it.
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      • #4
        I will sum it up....
        Pulsar 180: A very comfortable mini "Sports tourer"..Great shocks..Average handling..Cruises at triple digits without stressing..Cheaper spares
        RTR 180: A mini "Super Sport" Raw power from the 1st gear itself(RX 100 type)..Agressive forward lean sitting position-hence not comfortable as Pulsar..Average shocks..Awesum handling..Cruises at 90-100 easily..yes,it has vibrations,but no big deal here(you just have to shift Right)..Better breaks.

        As you are concerned for touring... I would recomend you P220(naked).it does every thing better than P180 and still gives a milage of around 40.
        I was in exact dillema 2.5 years back,bt I was a very occasional tourer and more of a power junkie.
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        • #5
          ^^ +1 . Well said . performance - get an rtr 180 , you would love it . pulsar 180 cant beat rtr here . But it is a little bit smoother and very stable in high speed , no vibration at all .
          Handling wise , rtr is nimble feels light and pulsar 180 feels heavier but stable at cornering .
          As per mileage , Pulsar may satisfy you here. But rtr mileage is a doubt . . If i were you , i would pick up an rtr
          Edit - i have ridden both, it is my personal feeling , perhaps you better do a test drive .
          Last edited by deepan 63; 03-13-2012, 11:41 AM.
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          • #6
            Try stretching ur budget a bit and take the Pulsar 220S. Faster than RTR and all advantages of Pulsar 180.
            200NS will lead to a lot of stretching.

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            • #7
              Both are good bikes, no doubt about it. They got different characters, take a test ride, that should clear your doubts. I believe RTR180 is a bit costlier due to rear disc, but at about the same price you can get P220S. So, include P220S in your test rides. Then decide for yourself.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by princeot View Post
                I'm interested in these two bikes
                the apache rtr 180 and the pulsar 180

                i travel 15-20 kms everyday
                rare tourer. About max 150-150 kms(up and down) in a year.(i do love touring. Maybe someday i will go further.)

                My Queries on Apache 180

                Vibration

                1>>>>How bad is it? Rode the hyperedge at 70kmph....didn't feel any vibes
                2>>>>Heard the vibrations start at mid 60s and ends at mid 70s. Also heard another theory that the vibe starts at mid 60s and doesn't end. Which is true?
                3>>>>how good of a touring bike is it?(i don't go above 100 kmph. So is the bike smooth till then?)

                Mileage
                1>>> i need atleast 45kmpl in the city

                VFM
                Is this worth buying when i have to compromise on non-smoothness and lesser mileage?

                on pulsar 180
                1>>>is the pickup as good as the rtr. How much of a difference is there between these two bikes with respect to acceleration?
                2>>>Whenever there is a comparision reviews between 200+ccs, apache 180 is also included but never the pulsar 180...why? Is the apache 180 that good or is the pulsar 180 that bad?

                Are there any other bikes in the 180 segment?
                TVS claims mileage of 58.xx for apache... some people are getting that mileage... even you'll get it if you ride in a certain way... majority of people get 42-45...
                I get 39-42

                A180 has much better pick up than P180... no questions about that...
                TVS has priced the spares a little higher than Pulsar(I dont know the cost of Bajaj spares, but thats what i heard)

                Regarding the famous vibes issue:
                I started reading these forums about 5-6 months after i bought my A180 and until i joined these forums i didnt know that my bike had some mysterious vibe issue...
                But i do agree that my friends Hyperedge which is 3 months old is much much smoother than my 2010 march model A180...
                If you are considering the A180, i suggest you the ABS version, i have personally never ridden it, but it may save your life one day...

                The reliability and of Apache is unquestionable from my experience.
                Apache 180

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                • #9
                  +1 to what sambit said. If you need pure performance go for apache and if you want performance with comfort then pulsar.
                  And some people here are suggesting pulsar220S, but don't think it's still in production.
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                  • #10
                    go rtr way,it's better than p180 in pick-up,keeps up in pick-up with 220 upto 60 kmph,handles way better than p180,lacks the smoothness of pulsar,stability upto 120 kmph is good,fe in the range of 38-45,not that comfortable on long ride,but it's about getting used to the forward biased riding position.
                    my suggestion=go for the abs ,it is worth the money.
                    is 220 s still in production?
                    about famour rtr vibes,i would rather like to mention it as lack of refinement.it is lesser in new pproductions.i love the vibes,the grunt of rtr,it makes you feel you are riding a beast.
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                    • #11
                      Being a owner of P180 UG4 (I ride it) and a RTR 180 (my bro rides it) I could only suggest you that if you are looking for performance only and a better VFM factor than pick RTR otherwise for looks, better stability, smoothness and mileage (My P180 gives around 45-50 kmpl after 2.5 years and 25K kms although mileage also depends on riding style my bro rips and gets 35 kmpl from his healthy RTR); go for P180. Maintenance costs of both the bikes are almost same.

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                      • #12
                        Being an A180 owner,I'd like to put across these points.As a tourer,it isn't all that good,seats are a little too soft and small( Of no concern if your built isnt big) but those headlamps are the best for a 35W a.c setting. But since you won't be doing much of that, that shouldn't be much of a concern.As a city bike,it's just perfect, small, reasonably fuel efficient, grunty engine with an awesome midrange and of course handling...
                        As for the P180, it's got that big bike feel, ride is much smoother than an apache, mileage is comparatively more (for similar riding style and conditions).

                        Since your primary usage is in the city,both bikes work well. RTR is more aggressive while the pulsar does the same job in a sweeter way.
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                        • #13
                          Go for the RTR 180ABS.It is safer(by default) and it has more oomph than Pulsar.
                          The vibs are waaay too overrated.
                          Some sore points-The rear seat is absolutely pathetic and the fuel level indicator is extremely unreliable,other than these two,however,the gear shifts are more positive and the riding position is very confidence inspiring.
                          The P180 corners better on long not-so sharp curves and sticks to the road better.
                          The braking on P180 is also very positive and it does not feel unstable at high speeds or during crosswinds.
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                          • #14
                            @Thread starter:

                            This was the hotest topic two years ago! You 're late, kid!
                            Just for the heck of it, check at **********.in for the comparo. You might find the article if, you 're lucky. It's more than two years old!
                            Apache RTR 180 owns P180 in every department. Test ride both and find out the difference yourself. One more thing, ride bloody hard to understand more but, with due care!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by w4rrior View Post
                              +1 to what sambit said. If you need pure performance go for apache and if you want performance with comfort then pulsar.
                              And some people here are suggesting pulsar220S, but don't think it's still in production.
                              Is it? when did P220S go out of production?
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