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  • #31
    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    Exactly I too want to say u this.



    Mat spares are important for anyone. For an ordinary bike anyone would like to have no hassles. Spares availability is also a part of the reliability of the bike. Consider you own a bike and after 6 months you dont get an import part of the bike. Its really painful. Spares are one of the most important need of a day to day biker. You can't ignore it. We have seen the result on the sales of spare availibility. Eg. - we have seen the enthusiasm for P200NS in Indonesia but many of them do not want to buy it 'only' because Bajaj spares are difficult to find.

    If its me I would go for CBR1000RR (if spares are available for that SBK) even if I like Pannigale (Considering all are affordable :P). And if not I won't buy an SBK. For SBK's one can even risk mate but a normal commuter won't take these risk and face the hassles. I hope you will realize this when you face big spares problem. Today also I didn't find the RVM. They say some problem in spare parts availibility of almost all Honda models. Honda ASS su**s
    Usually all the SBK's get lifetime part supply for the bike i.e generally companies stock it 15 years-20years from date of production so its easier to order online or if not it can even be custom made but at a cost!
    But in lower market segment its difficult to keep stock of outdated parts or still keep manufacturing since production rate is less and selling is very rare, it end up in loss for company. Suzuki is intelligent in cutting costs by limiting the supply of spares to required rate, and even don't let more than 6 authorised service centers in one city! Absolutely Amusing considering Yamaha, yet another japanese company, even today manufactures original spares for bikes as old as 1980.
    There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by prajnyan View Post
      Usually all the SBK's get lifetime part supply for the bike i.e generally companies stock it 15 years-20years from date of production so its easier to order online or if not it can even be custom made but at a cost!
      But in lower market segment its difficult to keep stock of outdated parts or still keep manufacturing since production rate is less and selling is very rare, it end up in loss for company. .
      couldn't help but notice you are saying that lower segment sale is less.

      actually here in lower segments there is so much parts sharing among the siblings,that spares are found easily.

      e.g pulsar,rtr,hmc siblings.
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
        that's really a lame reason.
        That's not a lame reason at all, if you consider that most of my vehicles have crossed the six figure marks. I am not even consider engine parts here. I am talking of parts which wear off easily like cables, brake liners, filters etc.

        I am a DIY type and don't want to take my bike to the showroom every month for routine things.

        To each his own, I rest my case. The poor thread starter has no clue where his thread is going.
        Better late by 30 minutes than early by 30 years.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by abdriver2000 View Post
          I am a DIY type.
          but the thread starter is not.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
          #overkill is underrated.
          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
            couldn't help but notice you are saying that lower segment sale is less.

            actually here in lower segments there is so much parts sharing among the siblings,that spares are found easily.

            e.g pulsar,rtr,hmc siblings.
            Hmmm. True sayank, thats in your view point but then all the siblings will slowly change hands too right, like after 15yr we really wouldn't be having any bikes or sibling using really old outdated parts. What you are saying is like FZ uses parts from RX100. Which isnt true, but yes, SZ,FZ,fazer all share same parts and maybe until 2020 we wont have difficulty sourcing these parts for our bike.

            So what i actually meant here was that on a sports bike, cost is iterative, so if it costs 60000rs to get a silencer then they'll have to spend it.

            But for a lower segment bike , like say the pulsar 2002 model, in another 3-4yr it will be difficult to find the gun silencers and do you think its viable to manufacture very few spares and keep stock, considering cost of production and less quantity demand for it, the pricing will have to be high and if you tell ppl it has to come from a warehouse somewhere in calcutta or chennai, ppl will rather tend to go buy a secondhand than a new one as its cheaper and he wont have to wait. That's what I am saying here.
            There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
              Certainly NOT. I wouldn't be surprised if its the biggest reason for anyone buying a 2-wheeler. Spare parts are any day one of the most important and crucial factors. When you need a spare part and you don't get it then you realize the troubles and feel yourself as the most harassed person on earth. Im not getting LHS RVM for my bike still They say some problem is going on for spare parts in Honda. God knows ..This is also a reason I have a good belief in Bajaj bikes. I never faced such a trouble in my 11yrs of ownership of Caliber. Got the block-piston even after 5yrs the bikes was stopped from production.
              Dude, I have a doubt here, the Caliber was a Kawasaki bike right?
              And kawasaki's provide assured parts backing, which is why you could find the part easily also considering there were lakhs of bikes sold, and it was just 10yr or so back, its really not difficult getting it.
              But I cant tell the same with pulsar, a friend sold his 2003 bike for scrap as it was too costly to overhaul it.
              There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by prajnyan View Post
                Dude, I have a doubt here, the Caliber was a Kawasaki bike right?
                And kawasaki's provide assured parts backing, which is why you could find the part easily also considering there were lakhs of bikes sold, and it was just 10yr or so back, its really not difficult getting it.
                But I cant tell the same with pulsar, a friend sold his 2003 bike for scrap as it was too costly to overhaul it.
                That was because Bajaj Platina and Kawasaki Bajaj Caliber (I know this because I had a Caliber) shared most commonly required spares. Your friend probably sold his P150 because he was bored of it. Pulsars being expensive to overhaul is a myth.
                Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by prajnyan View Post
                  What you are saying is like FZ uses parts from RX100. Which isnt true, .
                  i haven't said anything like that.rx was a generation old of fz.
                  and other thing pulsar overhauling doesn't cost that much.
                  and the question remains why do i race?
                  every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                  #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                  #overkill is underrated.
                  #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                  #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                  (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                    i haven't said anything like that.rx was a generation old of fz.
                    and other thing pulsar overhauling doesn't cost that much.
                    True, i do agree overhaul of any bike will be cheaper than buying new one, i guess he was fed up of the bike and wanted a new one, guess what, he got yet another pulsar
                    There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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                    • #40
                      yeah he was probably fed up with his pulsar for not having the new gizmos the new pulsar has to offer.
                      and the question remains why do i race?
                      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                      #overkill is underrated.
                      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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