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  • #16
    Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
    verify those figures in ownership threads.some tips on that art will be helpful.i mean it.
    1. Grip the tank with your knees and dont grip the handlebar too tightly... this would ensure that unnecessary rider input is cut-off and you get a better feel of the bike...
    2. Stay away from the corners of the road towards which the wind is pushing you....
    3. Dont panic and slow down a lot.... keep riding at normal speeds and you cross that patch with ease....

    Its something like cornering.. you learn more by actually doing it/going through it....

    For the first time when i faced it i was like WTF...... but when i talked to senior riders who have toured on Ninja and CBR they said its normal and happens to every faired bike... the best thing is that it is far less then wind blast.....
    Last edited by siddharth_ZMR; 05-03-2012, 02:32 PM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
      you are wrong here..ZMA-R returns mileage figures between 25-35kmpl which isn't consistent by any mean & ZMR returns consistent mileage between 35-40+kmpl in city & over 45kmpl or even 50kmpl on highways so the difference is more than 10+kmpl consistently..




      its just an art riding a full faired bike in cross winds..you'll get to learn it within few mins after getting on a bike's saddle..
      Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/4845-karizma-karizma-r-11.html
      Share what you think about the motorcycle you own or have owned in the past.
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
        some tips on that art will be helpful.i mean it.
        ya sure why not bro

        check these threads..
        xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop-general-biking-discussion/8769-how-counter-crosswinds-highway-rides.html


        xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop-general-biking-discussion/13009-riding-cross-winds.html
        Suzuki Gixxer - Current
        Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
        Apache RTR160 - Sold
        Honda Stunner - Sold
        LML Energy - Sold

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
          how does a crisp response help in overtaking
          Crisp response ensures that the acceleration/power delivery is as per the movement of your wrist which in turn automatically improves your confidence in overtaking ability in tight situations such as a two lane roads...

          Imagine if you are trying to overtake a trailer on a two lane road, you increase the throttle but the response of the bike is slight delayed... with oncoming traffic thats surely not a good feeling....

          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...y-rides-2.html read post #19 by old fox sir.... even i learned out of it....
          Last edited by siddharth_ZMR; 05-03-2012, 02:34 PM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
            ya sure why not bro

            check these threads..
            xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop-general-biking-discussion/8769-how-counter-crosswinds-highway-rides.html


            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...oss-winds.html
            Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
            1. Grip the tank with your knees and dont grip the handlebar tightly... this would ensure that unnecessary rider input is cut-off and you get a better feel of the bike...
            2. Stay away from the corners of the road towards which the wind is pushing you....
            3. Dont panic and slow down a lot.... keep riding at normal speeds and you cross that patch with ease....

            Its something like cornering.. you learn more by actually doing it/going through it....

            For the first time when i faced it i was like WTF...... but when i talked to senior riders who have toured on Ninja and CBR they said its normal and happens to every faired bike... the best thing is that it is far less then wind blast.....
            thanks for those inputs.
            Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
            .

            you increase the throttle but the response of the bike is slight delayed.....
            i am yet to come across such kinda of bike which have the kind of throttle response you mentioned.
            and the question remains why do i race?
            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
            #overkill is underrated.
            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
              i am yet to come across such kinda of bike which have the kind of throttle response you mentioned.
              Maybe except 100 cc bikes

              Yes, even I agree that any 150 cc and above bike sold in India has a decent throttle response for Indian roads.




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              • #22
                Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                i am yet to come across such kinda of bike which have the kind of throttle response you mentioned.
                Good then...
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...izma-r-11.html
                  read it properly..even there owners are saying that it gives mileage around 40kmpl riding consistently under 5k rpm only..over 6k rpm it drops to around 35kmpl & over 100kmph it drops around 30-32kmpl..& this we are talking about well maintained bike..
                  so considering my personal experience & practical aspects in mind,my given figure in between 25/27-40kmpl is pretty correct..

                  PS - now all this is off topic talk so i am out of it..
                  Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                  Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                  Apache RTR160 - Sold
                  Honda Stunner - Sold
                  LML Energy - Sold

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                    Good then...
                    mention few bikes having that kind of throttle response.let me know,i am not into every bikes.
                    and the question remains why do i race?
                    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                    #overkill is underrated.
                    #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                    #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by payeng View Post
                      Maybe except 100 cc bikes

                      Yes, even I agree that any 150 cc and above bike sold in India has a decent throttle response for Indian roads.
                      Sir, i am talking about CRISP and not decent throttle response. from what i have experienced Carb bikes irrespective of any brand give varied response to throttle depending on the temperature, altitude which effect air mixture. This does not happen in FI bikes is all what i meant.

                      Please correct me if my understanding is wrong about the bold part
                      WARNING!! Objects seen in Mirror are Disappearing Rapidly!!!!!!

                      Never be Afraid to Slow Down!!!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                        Sir, i am talking about CRISP and not decent throttle response. from what i have experienced Carb bikes irrespective of any brand give varied response to throttle depending on the temperature, altitude which effect air mixture. This does not happen in FI bikes is all what i meant.

                        Please correct me if my understanding is wrong about the bold part
                        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                        mention few bikes having that kind of throttle response.let me know,i am not into every bikes.
                        This is what i meant.... its about type of technology and not a bike or a brand...
                        WARNING!! Objects seen in Mirror are Disappearing Rapidly!!!!!!

                        Never be Afraid to Slow Down!!!!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                          Sir, i am talking about CRISP and not decent throttle response. from what i have experienced Carb bikes irrespective of any brand give varied response to throttle depending on the temperature, altitude which effect air mixture. This does not happen in FI bikes is all what i meant.

                          Please correct me if my understanding is wrong about the bold part
                          you have mentioned about carb's con,do you know about the miss-firing of fi throttle
                          and the question remains why do i race?
                          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                          #overkill is underrated.
                          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                            This is what i meant.... its about type of technology and not a bike or a brand...
                            Benefits of Fi:

                            1. Easy start at the first crank, under any condition: I agree

                            2. Much better throttle response than a carb bike: Not that much of a difference (at least when the engines are warmed up)


                            I have ridden and continue to ride many fuel injected and carbureted bikes.



                            Last edited by payeng; 05-03-2012, 02:54 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                              you have mentioned about carb's con,do you know about the miss-firing of fi throttle
                              No.. never experienced that in my 20K ride... Please explain
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by payeng View Post
                                Benefits of Fi:

                                1. Easy start at the first crank in any condition: I agree

                                2. Much better throttle response than a carb bike: Not that much of a difference

                                Sir, i agree with you completely. i know that there isnt much of a difference on very well maintained carb bike.. all i said that there is always going to be a slight difference and it depends on the rider how takes it..

                                Trust me, I owned a P220 DTS-Fi and have ridden many fuel injected and carbureted bikes.
                                i have absolutely no doubt about experience or about your words[/B]


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