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**antz.bin** · 06-17-2012, 12:39 AM

What Bike Query Approved

Welcome to xBHP Ramesh. Almost all bikes ~150cc are easy to ride. You will get used to any of them in 10-15 days max.

Since you do not have a huge FE requirement (basically because your daily commute is barely 3km/day), I would suggest you that you go for the Yamaha FZ-16/FZ-S, it offers good torque for urban use, good brakes (so that you can stay away from the idiots), excellent grip from the tires and light weight, making it an overall very safe and easy to ride bike.

Further I would suggest that you TR everything in your shortlist so that you can decide better.

**somen1984** · 06-17-2012, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by gramessh View Post

My home is quite close to the office and is just 1.5km away......

Frankly speaking you should use public transport or Rick only. 3kms/day.
In 1 liter you can ride a any 40-45kmpl bike for weeks !!! Super kool.

But still distance is very small.

Originally posted by gramessh View Post

So I figured I would get myself a motorbike that will help me go to office and also to roam around the city (maybe also go on an occasional long distance trip).

Here comes the requirement of Bike ...lol

Originally posted by gramessh View Post

Today, I visited three different showrooms and had a test drive on three different bikes,m which I felt might be good options (all in Adyar)

1. Honda CB Twister - I read somewhere on xBHP that it is a good bike for beginners.
2. Hero Hunk - dual discs - because I am tall at 6"1' and I wanted to try a big bike
3. Bajaj Pulsar 135LS - good looks and not too expensive, hopefully good performance overall

Other options I am considering:
Yamaha FZ, Hero CBZ Extreme and TVS Apache RTR 160

Out of the above noted bikes i would suggest you, CBZ/FZ/Hunk.

You can think of GS150r too as it's a tall big and i hope it comes some where around 75k.

Originally posted by gramessh View Post

I have had many people tell me that a scooter may not be a bad idea and I have grown quite fond of the Suzuki Access. I would not only be more comfortable riding it but it will also get me similar mileage when compared to some of the bikes I mentioned.

So what do I do guys?

Suzuki Access for convenience?
Lighter bikes like CB Twister, again for better control?
Heavier and more expensive bikes like Hunk for performance and stability

Oh ! dilema ends here !! No more head kracking !!!

You already spoke it yourself !!! Then go with your choice of a mopped. Access is a nice one too with 125cc.

**muztariq** · 06-17-2012, 01:44 AM

hi, you seem to be in the same dilemma every new learner faces.. Should i buy a new vehicle, or a second hand or no vehicle at all. But let me inform you.. This dilemma is very shortlived and then when you start riding/driving you come to know that the vehicle is not as per your requirement.. You yearn for power and got yourself an easy to maintain and easy to replace /cheap easily available parts bike.

Set your requirements again.. Think about it. Forget about scooters.. Bikes are much easier to handle.. Are fast as well as more comfortable and safe at high speeds.

I would recommend a honda engine for you(as per your power requirement).. These can take the maximum abuse from an amature rider. (just my opinion though)

my first bike was a splendor.. I learnt bike riding on it and it lasted 1 lakh kms (still strong) after taking all the initial amaturish abuse and then the high speed abuse.. HONDA !

**gramessh** · 06-17-2012, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

What Bike Query Approved

Welcome to xBHP Ramesh. Almost all bikes ~150cc are easy to ride. You will get used to any of them in 10-15 days max.

Since you do not have a huge FE requirement (basically because your daily commute is barely 3km/day), I would suggest you that you go for the Yamaha FZ-16/FZ-S

Thanks for the approval Antz! I didn't test ride the FZ yet. But don't you think that it might a bit annoying after a while when I start riding a lot more. My office is just 1.5km away but hey, who's to know if I will get the biking fever? :P

I have heard weird reports about the FZ providing 30kmph FE on rare occasions. Is this a concern?

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

Frankly speaking you should use public transport or Rick only. 3kms/day.
In 1 liter you can ride a any 40-45kmpl bike for weeks !!! Super kool.

But still distance is very small.

Oh ! dilema ends here !! No more head kracking !!!

You already spoke it yourself !!! Then go with your choice of a mopped. Access is a nice one too with 125cc.

Thanks for reading the entire article and getting me multiple replies

I know I sound like a kid, but I can't help it :P All these options seem to make me want different stuff and not one bike has everything.

And about the Access, does it not have enough power? I am only thinking about it because a couple of my friends use it and they all suggest that it can be a kick ass scooter and take on many normal class bikes when it comes to 0-60 acceleration, especially when the light changes from red to green.

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

Should i buy a new vehicle, or a second hand or no vehicle at all. But let me inform you..

You yearn for power and got yourself an easy to maintain and easy to replace /cheap easily available parts bike.

I would recommend a honda engine for you(as per your power requirement).. These can take the maximum abuse from an amature rider. (just my opinion though)

A lot of useful points there. Thank you

1. Honestly, I do not want a second hand bike. I think I can afford a new one and I will find it very annoying if I something big goes wrong and I have to visit the service center many times.

2. That is exactly what I am worried about. That's the thing separating me from the Access

3. I heard that the Hero Hunk runs on a Honda engine. The double discs (not sure why I need the rear one) looked okay but it was a bit too heavy when I tried to turn. I shall consider it seriously!

Again, thank you

**Berlin** · 06-17-2012, 09:58 AM

Just wait for the new DISCOVER 125ST to launch.... and then decide..
it would be a best bet for begginer... And sooner there is going to be a review about it in Xbhp by MG.. Just wait and decide...

**Vishakh** · 06-17-2012, 10:39 AM

FZ 16 will be good for you. You are capable of taking testrides on bikes so I dont think you are a rokee like you mentioned. Be confident bro go for the FZ.

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If you take a 100 cc trust me within two weeks you will feel it lacks power and later regret your buy. FZ gives you 45- 50 economy and yeah good for little bit touring

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**sayank10** · 06-18-2012, 03:48 PM

if you don't want to indulge too much i guess p135 is a safe bet.

**Dezire_ Unlimited** · 06-18-2012, 04:08 PM

Hey Buddy... Welcome to XBHP and the world of Bike Riding...

Check this review by MG on Discover 125-ST...

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/first-impressions/22928-xbhp-first-impression-discover-125-st-urban-sports-tourer.html

I am Pretty Sure this is what You are looking for...

**somen1984** · 06-18-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by gramessh View Post

I have heard weird reports about the FZ providing 30kmph FE on rare occasions. Is this a concern?

Nope i din't heard anything like that still!!

And about the Access, does it not have enough power? I am only thinking about it because a couple of my friends use it and they all suggest that it can be a kick ass scooter and take on many normal class bikes when it comes to 0-60 acceleration, especially when the light changes from red to green.

This is where you are mistaking!!!

mopped is not at all a speed machine for race or compete around.It has many limitations. Scooters are for relaxed riding with out any issues of gear and brakes!! all are in the hands.

If you are thinking of pick up and race (which i think you about race too sometimes) Then strickly no scooters!!!

Bike only!!

Access is a nice scooter if you ride sanely it's fun to ride. I had ridden activa for a month when i was out of station and it was more better than any bike counting my own R15 too.Gearless scooters are boon in traffic and city.

But i don't recommend for highways!!!

**antz.bin** · 06-18-2012, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

Nope i din't heard anything like that still!!

Well then you really don't know very much about the FZ. Try doing more research and you will find many many occasions when perfectly maintained and serviced FZs return even lesser FE. You might not have heard about it but I have seen it with my own eyes.

But
@Gramessh I am not trying to scare you by telling this. If you ride sanely inside the city, the bike will consistently stay within the 35-45kmpl range. If you think about it, if the bike is used exclusively for office commutes, all you will spend is 150bucks on fuel, every month. Does it really matter if you spend 130 instead of 150?

The pros that I listed in the 1st reply are the biggest reasons for the underlying con. The bike is extremely good for the urban grind, much better than the competition w.r.t. Ease of riding, and safety. Its upto you what you choose.

P.S.: Try the Discover 125 ST if you want, fulfills most of your requirements.

**jonahmano** · 06-18-2012, 10:30 PM

@ Grameesh,

Suzuki Access 125 scooter will be ideal for you. Since you are a complete beginner I don't think you need something like a bike for your travelling.

The Suzuki Access will give you both power and balance and also will return 50 km per litre minimum mileage.

I don't think you can manage big 150 cc beasts because as per your information given, you are a beginner, I don't want you to mess up the huge ones with accidents and all.

After a year or later, you can switch to geared bikes according to your situations but right now a scooter like suzuki access will be best for you. You can also take things from market to your room easily with suzuki Access

**Sid85** · 06-18-2012, 11:07 PM

IMO you should go for CBZ xtreme or HUnk, would return an average of 45-50 km/ltr. Also once you get the bike, you will not use it for office rides only. You will take it out on weekends to roam around in city, will go out for daily chores etc. FZ is a nice bike but i feel it is a little underpowered as per the engine provided and as atz correcftly said, the FE is less comparing similarly powered bikes. Take TR of every bike in your list and decide.

**somen1984** · 06-18-2012, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Well then you really don't know very much about the FZ. Try doing more research and you will find many many occasions when perfectly maintained and serviced FZs return even lesser FE. You might not have heard about it but I have seen it with my own eyes.

Then surely they are rare case of not maintaining the bike, using like hell and treating like hell!!

My college group had 5-6 FZ and 2 Fazer none of them had such bad mileage in city or anywhere even ripping at 100 on highways either!
Even my complex people haven't reported such incident!!
I keep asking many people about their exp on thier bikes, like splendour,passsion,P220, R15 FZ, etc, etc...

You might have seen very rare cases and we can't blame FZ for that. This would have been true then FZ would have been closed down long back!! Because it's not that torque or high speed demon to keep with 30kmpl....

How much cases have you seen from lakhs of bike on road??
Such statements can severely effect minds of people for that particular model. You should refrain from commenting such !! Show us any 100 cases out of lakhs... with excellent maintaining of bike and getting 30kmpl under 50-70kmph or even at 90kmph ??

**gramessh** · 07-01-2012, 06:33 PM

Okay guys. The time has come for me to make my choice.

Its been two weeks since I last asked for your opinions and I come seeking them again.

During these two weeks, I test drove a few more bikes and notable a couple of scooters. I realizes that the true question I was trying to answer was whether I wanted a bike or a scooter.

I got the answer when I rode an old TVS Scooty from Perungudi to Besant Nagar Beach in Chennai. Amidst a lot of traffic, I found the scooter very easy to ride, and every time I had to hit the brakes and accelerate again, I didn't have to worry about the gears and the clutch. I was half convinced.

And since I am new, I tried to spot cheaper bikes that offered a lot of goodies and a great experience. Weirdly, I found that none of the cheaper bikes offered too much comfort - no mono suspension, no broad wheels, not even a digital LCD display in some cases below 60K. Honestly, the FZ was the only bike that matched all my needs, but it too was too ans expensive and didn't offer good mileage (I gotta admit I can't keep below 60 when there is an opportunity to go faster)

So the question now is between two scooters. The Suzuki Access 125/Suzuki Swish and the Mahindra Rodeo RZ. Could you guys please help me pick one of them?

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