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    which bike is VFM and better among GS150R and 200NS

    Hi,
    I want to buy a bike(Minimum 150CC) which has good build quality and lasts long(nearly 10 years as I want to keep this bike and go for car instead of buying another bike).

    I am stuck between Suzuki GS 150R and Pulsar 200 NS (Though top speed is not my concern, But I like the 200 NS looks and technology.)


    Pros:


    Cons:

    Only self-start, not proven for longevity.
    Details:

    Mileage : Minimum 40 kmpl should be fine for me.
    Budget : 1 lakh.

    My Details:Note: I am not interested in any other bikes.

    Could you please suggest which bike is VFM , better for my scenario among the 2 bikes and why (Pros and cons).

    Thanks in Advance.
    Tags: pulsar 200ns, suzuki gs150r
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    Query approved.
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    • #3
      Common notion aside, I wouldn't really put NS's being "new" in the market as a negative. Not in a typical sense at least! As already known, NS is a completely new and different pulsar. The engine is based on KTM's, so it has a pretty good base I would say. GS is a really good motorcycle, but it won't satisfy you if you long for power that bit more! NS is a pretty safe bet in my opinion even now.
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      • #4
        NS200 would be the best as it's 200cc and one of it's own kind pulsar in his family.
        Most imp maintenance is at lower side and spare parts cost won't effect you for 10 yrs.
        But still 10yrs as a criteria are like world is going to end and no more advance tech or options will be introduced.

        NS200 has better pick up and power for weekend rides,
        good handle in city
        has better average of 35-40kmpl, you can get more also.

        VFM is a word where money and budget makes a difference, as per me all bike are VFM the difference is use!!

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        • #5
          Bro P200ns would suits you very much, you gonna look perfect while sitting on p200ns according to height and wait, your budget is also stretchable till 1L.

          P200ns is ahead in every dept. looks, technology, power everything, I like the riding posture too, It is simply a superb machine for sure under 1L...

          Apart from P200ns GS is also not a bad machine smooth engine, comfort, good mileage, good low end torque.

          But if we put them together P200ns comes as a winner I think only KTM can be a tough rival.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
            NS200 would be the best as it's 200cc and one of it's own kind pulsar in his family.
            Most imp maintenance is at lower side and spare parts cost won't effect you for 10 yrs.
            But still 10yrs as a criteria are like world is going to end and no more advance tech or options will be introduced.

            NS200 has better pick up and power for weekend rides,
            good handle in city
            has better average of 35-40kmpl, you can get more also.

            VFM is a word where money and budget makes a difference, as per me all bike are VFM the difference is use!!
            GS 150R has a better mileage ~55 kmpl.

            Originally posted by Kiran@Hyd View Post
            [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Hi,
            I want to buy a bike(Minimum 150CC) which has good build quality and lasts long(nearly 10 years as I want to keep this bike and go for car instead of buying another bike).

            I am stuck between Suzuki GS 150R and Pulsar 200 NS (Though top speed is not my concern, But I like the 200 NS looks and technology.)
            Too many posts nowadays for which bike is VFM!
            Dude, both are different bikes. They belong to different segments.

            We can compare R15 with CBR 150R or a P150 with HMC 150 breeds, but not these two.

            Not only in the cc (displacement) criterion, gear ratios, torque etc also matter. A GS 150R @72K OTR is as VFM as a P200NS @ 1L.

            P200NS will be fun in the city, whereas the GS might seem a tad heavy with lesser torque. But it has a very smooth engine.

            P200NS will return between 35-45 kmpl depending on your riding style, GS shall return >52-53 kmpl. (55 kmpl in case of mixed style riding)

            Since both are 6 speed, and not having much experience of riding the NS (rode for only 10 km in city), I can't comment.

            If you want latest tech/features, go for the NS, but its still new in the market. I hope it becomes a huge success.

            If you want a risk free ride (as of now considering the 'newness' of the pulsar) go for GS.
            Last edited by Divya Sharan; 08-06-2012, 08:13 PM.
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            • #7
              Both have good VFM, it depends on your perception, requirement and usage.

              If you need a peaceful and relaxed ride all time around 60Kays in the city with good mileage, then pick the GS.

              If you can spare a little enthusiasm on biking then pick the NS.

              Remember if you make a wrong choice then which ever you select will have no VFM.
              Last edited by HarishK; 08-06-2012, 11:43 PM.
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              • #8
                No KickStart in 200NS and Bajaj's build quality ?

                The reason why i am afraid of 200 Ns is that it don't have kick start(just think of battery failure which is very common). Also I don't have faith in Bajaj's Build quality and longevity as I own a Pulsar 150 DTSi previously..
                In addition to this, no single sided pillion foot rest as my mom might come on my bike occasionally...

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                • #9
                  If you want the rush, eagerness to rev and a hooligan appeal, go for the 200
                  If you want the laid back attitude and a little less involved ride the GS150 is your pick.Its as simple as that.I earlier had the Suzuki.You get bulletproof reliability but compromised performance.Anyways pick the one which matches your taste more

                  Kick start and its lack is not a problem.You always have the option to push start.I think that kick start mechanism is slowly being phased out in the wake of better batteries and technology.
                  Last edited by Sushrut; 08-07-2012, 12:07 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sushrut View Post
                    If you want the rush, eagerness to rev and a hooligan appeal, go for the 200
                    If you want the laid back attitude and a little less involved ride the GS150 is your pick.Its as simple as that.I earlier had the Suzuki.You get bulletproof reliability but compromised performance.Anyways pick the one which matches your taste more

                    Kick start and its lack is not a problem.You always have the option to push start.I think that kick start mechanism is slowly being phased out in the wake of better batteries and technology.
                    What is push start ? You mean self start ?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kiran@Hyd View Post
                      What is push start ? You mean self start ?
                      Push start is when u push the bike in gear while in-clutch and leting go of the clutch to crank up the engine and hop on the bike at the same time while hoping that you don't fall off or skid. Quite an un-exciting way to start up the bike every morning.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kiran@Hyd View Post
                        What is push start ? You mean self start ?
                        No. Push start means you need to push the bike with the 1st gear engaged to start.

                        Remember people pushing cars from behind when the battery goes weak and then within a few meters the car comes to life? Same here.

                        Its simple. Engage 1st gear. With the clutch pulled walk/run till the speedo reaches 8-10 kmph, sit on the bike and release the clutch. Bingo!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                          No. Push start means you need to push the bike with the 1st gear engaged to start.

                          Remember people pushing cars from behind when the battery goes weak and then within a few meters the car comes to life? Same here.

                          Its simple. Engage 1st gear. With the clutch pulled walk/run till the speedo reaches 8-10 kmph, sit on the bike and release the clutch. Bingo!
                          You can be sure on this part that you will never have to push start your bike at all, coz if the battery is going to die then the symptoms will be seen quite a while ago. That is, the bike will need more cranks to get fired, Horn squeaking etc..

                          Those old days are gone. The battery in your bike is treated as the battery in your car. So you will not have any issues with a new battery for the next 4+yrs. (Provided you do not modify any electricals)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HarishK View Post
                            You can be sure on this part that you will never have to push start your bike at all, coz if the battery is going to die then the symptoms will be seen quite a while ago. That is, the bike will need more cranks to get fired, Horn squeaking etc..

                            Those old days are gone. The battery in your bike is treated as the battery in your car. So you will not have any issues with a new battery for the next 4+yrs. (Provided you do not modify any electricals)
                            But some of the 200NS owners on ownership thread are saying Morning strat problems with 200NS..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HarishK View Post
                              You can be sure on this part that you will never have to push start your bike at all, coz if the battery is going to die then the symptoms will be seen quite a while ago. That is, the bike will need more cranks to get fired, Horn squeaking etc..

                              Those old days are gone. The battery in your bike is treated as the battery in your car. So you will not have any issues with a new battery for the next 4+yrs. (Provided you do not modify any electricals)
                              Ya Harish, you're right. I simply shared what I knew about push start.

                              Moreover, when a friend's Yamaha R15 stopped (starter went kaput) amidst the Chennai-Pondi state highway, aka ECR, push start saved him.
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