Hello friends.

@surajit : thank you very much for your genuine advice. But as i had said man : all documents are in Hindi and they are 50% physically damaged. I have
1) Duplicate RC book
2) transfer order form
3) NOC to mumbai ( expired )
WITHOUT NOC or without paying tax of karnataka we cannot transfer the bike in our name.
So complications : cancel mumbai noc and issue new NOC ( but owner is dead )

@vrugonnab: I am seriously considering NS too. but it is not yet proven in terms of reliability and no service for ns in my town. I have to go to bangalore (450 KM) or Pune (450 KM) to get service or sales, test drive done done

@Enthusiastic : Ya man But i have to TD first have to travel a lot if i want this babe)

@ ALL :- I have extended my budget till 110k

NOw i am thinking and thinking........ ( MY priority wise )

1) Bullet 350 STD UCE
2) latest chick, the NS ( Service for this bike is a head ache )
3) Karizma R
4) p180/220


NOW PLEASE TELL ME that it will be good choice to put 100K on NS or 96K on Zma or 220.

ALSO HOW ABOUT SERVICE ad maintenance OF NS???

I want a comfortable and ***RELIABLE** machine.

Friends i am relying a lot upon you. Please help me out

P220 or NS200 are approx same price only a difference of 5-6K here and there.
I Sense your love for RE, SO well let me take you for a spin, You currently own a CI RE, this is a dream bike for all Thumpers, Sadly no more in production, The Thump and Feel this CI has non other RE or other bikes have it!! So, decide are you ready to sell it off!!(INMO it's a follish decision if you sell it, becuase you have a love for RE)
Any time it's worth putting buying NS200 for approx 1L.
It have better engine then P220, Mono Shocks, Liquid Cool, Petal Disc brakes and lovely Service network, SVC are more or less same in all area.
NS200 is a good performer with excellent results till date, mileage and power.Excellent for city as well as highway rides but under 125kmph, post that it's unstable due to naked type.
Currently we hear a lot that now Bajaj is the chaepest spare parts producer, so Hero is now gone in that segment. No worries maintenance won't affect you in any sense, it's fair afordable as compare to P220 chart.
No Bike is relaible, unless untill rider is not RELIABLE!!!
Ride it with sense and service it with time it will always ride in full color.
Bajaj's latest NS200 is good in terms of performance and durability.
If you don't trust Bajaj then go with Hero ZMR, it's awesome machine for city as well as Tour!! the only limit is it's speed, can't go beyond 125-130kmph. But it's relaible and awesome machine.

P.S: DON'T SELL YOUR CI RE @ ANY COST!!!
It won't matter to keep the RE CI as well as your new ride, anyways you won't get better deals with the condition of papers you have. So keep it as you passion and ride your new bike for daily use!!
I think a person who is handling a CI RE then he can handle any maintenance bike!!

Re re re re re re: Bullet

@somen: THANKS MAN FOR UNDERSTANDING MY PASSION FOR BULL.
I ALSO KNOW THAT ITS PAPERS cannot be pursued further. My passion is very high for bullet no matter what. But I am really pissed by this papers lufda.( all papers are in Hindi and i cannot read hindi ) :0

I wanted bull. So only i went to Panvel (700 Km away without reservation by train. Standing for 10 Hours continuously ) I took high risks and pain to buy this bike from a mad -man. Also i Always want to ride my bull everywhere. But i cannot do it.

AND also........ Any bike i may buy.it will just be a substitute for my bull. NO BIKE CAN SUBSTITUTE a CI BULL
then again i end up in buying a new bike after selling off the newly purchased bike

P.S: Somen have you ever travelled by train from dadar to kalyan??

Yes Many Times!! I stay in Kalyan!!

I guess you can make proper papers of this, via an agent. He will take some on money but will get your work done, becuase you have all the necessary papers!! If actually i see that you were playing a smart game, you din't get it transfered to your name, you just kept it signed from him on the transferred form, which is wrong.
If you had done any accident or case then that poor man would been in trouble, because you never updated the RTO.
BTW where are you from, how Panvel to X place?? 700kms ??
But actually i see this was a mad buy than a smart buy! You could have brought a CI RE from some decent person with decent papers too...

The best way is to keep your bull and get all papers propers with agent and buy a new NS200(1L) or ZMR(1.3L)

Somen,

@Somen, I think, if i am not mistaken, SEEN YOU
ON the night when i loaded my bullet on dadar-Mysore Sharavati express
I was on General compartment.( i could not get reservation as, i was in a great hurry.) The train leaves at 9 Pm from dadar. Then you came and sat at the seat opposite to me. You told the shoddy guy besides you to adjust in the seat till Kalyan. then you turned at me and told "sabko adjust karna chahiye" . I gave a wide smile to you.

Thats all. Then i dozed off. EVEN I MAY BE WRONG. But tell me am i correct??( i am 90% sure that it was you )

@SOMEN : I AM NOT PLAYING ANY GAMES HERE. I bought it from a middleman. I AM PERSONALLY trying to clear off the papers very hard. ANOTHER UPDATE : I FOUND OUT THAT THE OWNER IS DEAD!!!!

Papers cannot be transferred to our name unless we have the Valid NOC.

YOU may be correct to say that it was a mad buy. But in karnataka we dont get bulls even if we get, its price will be nearly 100K.

I live at Hubli-Dharwad Twin City, second largest city in karnataka.

It is on the main NH4 and it is headquarters of SW railways. From here, both bangalore and pune are equidistant i.e; 450 KM.

I do not have that much money to put full 100K. It is either of them (new one or existing Bull )

I wish if i could have been that, But i never traveled through train, from last 4-5 yrs, i have my mode of transport either car or bike. And for outstation i travel only through planes, by my dad times till now. Even college i went through train or Car only.

But yes traveled with friends in local trains sometimes, but not at so late times!!
You don't have choice mate!! You have to get the valid NOC by hook or crook, mostly sell it to someone from that state where it's from, now the RE owner is dead so, there must be one way around to get this settle, get in touch with some RTO agent.
Can you tell me what's your budget now? So, we can suggest you some better bikes in your budget as you are not able to pull out 100k??
What ever you buy, think twice and buy financially + mentally. because later you should not regret!! This CI RE can be updated with papers but would need time and effort.

@somen,

Hi somen. I am sorry mate i think i put a mad guess

ok my budget now will be 70K. plus 40K if i sell off my bull

Also i do not want to maintain 2 bikes simultaneously.

EVEN i have some documents with me , but i cannot read hindi properly and no one in karnataka can read it properly

the ones i am sure about :
1) RC BOOK (sheet form0
2) transfer order form
3) Police order form? or it may be NOC to mumbai
it says that ' AAvedan patra' bike number so so..... engine number... chassis number.... so and so to ' RTO mumbai, maharashtra' so and so.....
I cannot read (

Here i dont have good agents. please inform me if you have really good , intelligent AND mischievous agent having connections with U.P. as well as in Mumbai.

Thanks man.

It's better you get an agent near by, so youcan track the update or put pressure to get your work done.
The best way is to sell it. Keeping this CI bullet won't give you any fruit, because someday you will be caught with this paper and you will suffer.
Try to search buyer from UP only. else why don't you get in touch with the decease family. The worst part is you din't get it transfer to your name when you brought the bike, I guess you wanted to keep one owner less on current numbers!! This is the trouble now. If a decease family is ready then you get your issue resolved, because after decease it's children can help to get this corrected!!

Good evening,

@somen, You still did not understand me. I BROUGHT IT FROM A MIDDLEMAN in Mumbai. HE had an oppurtunity to transfer to his name. but HE DID NOT DO IT. Owner is deceased AT LUCKNOW. I am living 3000 KM away from Lucknow. I cannot and definitely cannot complete any formalities by traveling that much far.

So Unwillingly I am forced to sell off my favorite Bull

So topic of my beloved Bull is closed... I am so sad.


I have elimnated Pulsar 180 and pulsar 220 due to:-

1) These models are about be phased out and closed in the end of this year itself. P180 first, then P220 and lastly P150 (CONFIRMED BY my friend who is an senior bajaj official)

2) Comfort, Quality and reliability wise not ahead (of Honda technology).

3) Refinement wise too lacking a little bit.

Despite these drawbacks these two are great machines in terms of sheer power and pickup and good option for those who keep it for short term.

coming to the topic of new bike, I have refreshed the list as follows:
1)RE Bullet 350 UCE
2)Karizma-R
3)P 200 NS

Friends, please start the debate about which three options is the best one for me. I am emotionally more attached to the bulls

This is were the problem is! buying a bike with out proper things. Now leave it, it has to be sold.
Absolutely correct!!
This is interesting, So after P150 there will NS200 directly and Duke 200.
Don't you think, it's open and shut case here:
1. You know you can't get things clear with your OLD RE.
2. You din't get it transfer to your name, whether it's anyone's fault.
3. You are clear that you will be selling for old RE, anyways, due to the paper prob.
4.And you are emotionally attached to bulls, which means you buy anyting apart from RE you won't be happy!!
5. So it's RE only in all aspect!!
We suggest my friend, we don't debate here!! We are here to guide people with good, if limited then update it, But not battle/ debate here!!
It's your choice. But your post says it clear what you want, So it's very simple, because you have already tried most of the bikes in last 2yrs.

Hello somen.

You are absolutely correct.

AND there is lot of things going b/w bajaj and KTM. It is revealed that bajaj fellows are breaking their head to make their NEW 150cc (KTM technology) engine at KTM facility, Austria. (8 bajaj senior engineers were sent from here). From now on there will be :- 125cc, 150cc, 200cc bikes from bajaj and KTM. all old bikes erased slowly and steadily.

Also you understood me quite well. I am actually looking for an RE Bull . That is why I divorced 3 wives .

But there seem to be a small problem here too :
1) I am interested in buying STD 350 UCE (If buying new)
2) Waiting for it is 5 months
3) NO proper service for UCE in my city.
4) No spares for UCE
5) Price 115K...can put a bomb in my pocket.

As an alternative :
1) What about again buying a sane bullet (Local papers ) CI shelling 70K?
2) I have a money-monger-mechanic at my disposal :/
3) I have to spend atleast 20K after buying a bull for around 70K
4) spares are available from Kolhapur (300 KM) or sometimes Belgaum (80KM)
5) After all a true Bullet is a iron one

Which option yo suggest??? Thank you for your time

Does waiting periods affects dream or passion?? No, not at all!!
What passion does an individual poses if it gets fade with small problem!!
Very strange, you have a nice CI mech or service but UCE is a problem??
How come?? infact UCE is the most reliable then it's old ones. It should be more easy to get it or service it.
I won't suggest any second hand RE if a person don't have another bike with him as a spare or main use!!
RE's are well know for making people shell money all time, So second hand , No chance!!
Get a new RE else buy a new bike!!

SOMEN you are FAAAAAST

thank you for your speeedy reply.
I only meant that even if any major/ small problem crops up, then no one can do it here! CI mechs dont touch UCE ( they refer UCE as crap ) have to travel to bangy / pune.

And yes. CI bull is not so reliable i have personally pushed it for 10Km
(in absence of cell phones and civilisation of course !! )

But man still buying a new bull is costing me a bomb!!

I still consider:
1)Bullet 350 STD UCE
2)Karizma R

How is the mileage of both the bikes. Kaizma costs me 20K cheaper.... But heart says bull.

Human's limit and fact is best before it's late!
When it's a Bomb then why are you behind it! the other option is wait and save moeny for new RE UCE and later on buy it!
Else forget it , if it's imp to buy a bike now!Feeling has no boundaries unless untill you realise the truth of your self and req!
Any time a Karizma! coz, it's more reliable, good on highways and handling, best for touring with city aspects too!! best re-sale due to hero badge!
Karizma scores above RE anytime apart from comfort/Torque that RE gives.. But how much is That torque imp to you?? and that RE comfort ??

Karizma will give you anytime arounf 35-45kmpl as per use!
And RE will too give you the same. Bbut Karizma is more stable then RE on highspeeds! and it has best SVC all over india!!
As per your bidget KArizma fits your bill, it's around 90K,+/- 5k.

True

Important update:- I test drove an RE Thunderbird TS (they did not have any other bike for TD) . It is same engine as of STD 350 UCE except for crank weight of 12KG in STD UCE. TD felt very bad. There was many clattering noises from engine. First I thought that something was wrong with engine. But Later knew that it was a character of UCE aluminum engine. I did the TD for 5KM. I did not like the character of engine. It was very different from My CI Bull . CI was no.1 feel. nothing can replace it . Test drove it above 70KMPH speed. Vibrates- as a normaal bull does. Engine mechanical noise always varies.
And that eats my head . Exhaust note is not pleasent. Overall not for me

ANOTHER UPDATE:- Test driven Electra UCE for 2 KM. Similar experience as that of TBTS. only external appearance changes.