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  • #16
    The p200 ns was amazing .though it made some weird noise at low rpm but at 80 it was a dream ride...the monoshock is amazing,but no centre stand...no vibes what so ever at high rpm.smooth gear shift.the tires are tubeless whats the benefit of tubeless tires??? Enlighten me ...going to test r15 v2 next.. Will keep you posted...
    ZMA-R,FZ-S,HONDA DIO,RD-350(1984)

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    • #17
      From you signature it came to known that you have ZMA-R, then nothing much to tell you about ZMR, it only has FI and GRS shock absorbers. One of the most comfortable bike on the highway, but there are lot of bikers who has done long long rides on other bikes too. its totally depend on how you are comfortable with the bike. The best suggestion would be TD all the bikes and decide, as i think you have made some of your mind for 200NS then go for it.

      You wont be getting all the features in one bike, you have to sacrifice something, each bike has some cons.
      Replace the words "I have to" with "I choose to" and notice the difference in how you feel.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Deepak Vishnu View Post
        The p200 ns was amazing .though it made some weird noise at low rpm but at 80 it was a dream ride...the monoshock is amazing,but no centre stand...no vibes what so ever at high rpm.smooth gear shift.the tires are tubeless whats the benefit of tubeless tires??? Enlighten me ...going to test r15 v2 next.. Will keep you posted...

        You end up with more money on tubeless tyre puncture repair then normal ones, Here it cost Rs 120 for tubeless and Rs 45 for Tube.

        Tubeless tyres can be ridden upto 5-10kms with out any repair, in that state. It doesn't flatens as normal tyres do and throw the rider!! It's good as per riding safety for rider.

        But Karizma R din't had a tubeless tyres ??

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Deepak Vishnu View Post
          The p200 ns was amazing .though it made some weird noise at low rpm but at 80 it was a dream ride...the monoshock is amazing,but no centre stand...no vibes what so ever at high rpm.smooth gear shift.the tires are tubeless whats the benefit of tubeless tires??? Enlighten me ...going to test r15 v2 next.. Will keep you posted...
          Dude you stay at Kochi, Roads here are so bad you definitely need an off road bike! I agree with somen1984. Go for Impulse, my opinion. TD and choose a bike which suits you well.
          Last edited by Ash_win; 10-26-2012, 05:41 PM. Reason: Typo
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          • #20
            Between 200ns,p220,rtr 180 which would be better for offroading?I think due to low end torque RTR,220 have an advantage over NS.By offroading I mean real bad roads,potholes etc.In my place riding consists of accelerating to 60 km/hr and immediately coming back to 10.Its really annoying having to shift down to 2nd always,even in my splendor(I sometimes stand up on pegs without reducing much speed)I think with 200 ns I will have to bring it down to 1.On a long drive this will be annoying like hell.This is the only one negative point I can think of 200 ns.Other than this NS rules over all other bikes below 1L(thats what I think,any differ please tell,before me buying NS).
            "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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            • #21
              Short and crisp

              ZMR - Advanced version of ZMA with new technologies like fuel injection, full fairing etc. A proven tourer.
              P200NS - A good city bike which is fun on highways. Latest tech, bajaj service network, best pulsar ever manufactured.
              R15 - is a great track machine, can be ridden in city pretty well but too agreesive riding position can be issue sometimes.
              A180 - Great pickup. Can be used in city as well as tracks. ABS makes it a vfm within its price range. Might have to live with the vibes.

              You can also look at the Duke. Its good city bike with good offroading capabilities.I do see in your signature that you have owned ZMA-R already. That should give you fair idea about ZMR. It is a ZMA with full fairing, FI and some more new technologies. Karizma (ZMA/ ZMR) has been a proven tourer for ages now. Low end torque helps tackling the city traffic with ease. The only negatives a can think of is fairing vibes after offroading (almost every faired bikes have this issue) and the large turning radius.P200NS is a very potent city bike, the best Pulsar ever produced(have heard so, never rode it).

              R15 & A180 are track machines. R15 has proven itself over the years. Pillion seat is an issue. Get this if you want to enjoy sport riding. Seating position is little aggressive. A180 can act as city as well as track machine. Awesome accelaration, ABS makes it safe. Apache is known for its vibes which can be lived with. Seating is not too agressive nor too relaxing.

              Now it depends upon you what you need the bike for.




              Originally posted by Deepak Vishnu View Post
              the tires are tubeless whats the benefit of tubeless tires??? Enlighten me ...
              Unlike the traditional tubetype tyres, tubeless ones give you the levearage to ride on for some distance even with a puncture in the tyre. Lets suppose you are going through a highway where you don't have tyre repairing shops, you can mange to go on untill you find a shop(in case of tubeless tyres). The other advantage is you can repair the punctures on your own and don't even have to mount down the wheel from the bike.
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              • #22
                I would suggest an impulse for the kind of roads which you are mentioning...
                ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Deepak Vishnu View Post
                  Hi allthis is my first post on xbhp,proud to be a part of xhbp biking community.I am posting this from my mobile as my pc is wrecked so i am very sorry for the typos &sh!t etc....Let me get straight to the point i am in need good performance bike. My needs are *it should be able to perform rather well in highways*needs some mileage (35 )*comfortable riding position(i am 169cm tall & skinny 50 kg)*budget (~1.2 lakhs, will take loan,suggest the finance option of the bike , can extend a little bit but not more)*refinement is needed but not a must,riding should be smooth on low and high rpms*should be able todo a little offroading as the roads near borders are rocky,should survive potholeswell these are my requirements and i really find p200ns a good option .will this beast satisfy me?? What do you think all options are welcomed even sugging other bikes is also ok..Thanks in advance.Yours sincerely Deepak
                  The only appropriate bike in your budget and rather very appropriate is P200NS.
                  Whats there in a signature?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Deepak Vishnu View Post
                    Hi allthis is my first post on xbhp,proud to be a part of xhbp biking community.I am posting this from my mobile as my pc is wrecked so i am very sorry for the typos &sh!t etc....Let me get straight to the point i am in need good performance bike. My needs are *it should be able to perform rather well in highways*needs some mileage (35 )*comfortable riding position(i am 169cm tall & skinny 50 kg)*budget (~1.2 lakhs, will take loan,suggest the finance option of the bike , can extend a little bit but not more)*refinement is needed but not a must,riding should be smooth on low and high rpms*should be able todo a little offroading as the roads near borders are rocky,should survive potholeswell these are my requirements and i really find p200ns a good option .will this beast satisfy me?? What do you think all options are welcomed even sugging other bikes is also ok..Thanks in advance.Yours sincerely Deepak
                    Well, The way u described ur point have a quite a few opts to sum it up. Suggestions for R15, P200NS are a few top loaders..
                    But if u have the liberty to extent ur budget to 1.5L, the might I suggest the Duke.
                    This beast is gonna blow u away, for the worries of ur satisfaction :P
                    But otherwise, P200NS is a wise choice. Complete package, though with certain drawbacks, which can be overlooked. Will go for u all the way to ur requirements
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by s.roy0717 View Post
                      But otherwise, P200NS is a wise choice. Complete package, though with certain drawbacks, which can be overlooked. Will go for u all the way to ur requirements
                      Can you please mention the drawbacks..
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by albyjose View Post
                        Between 200ns,p220,rtr 180 which would be better for offroading?I think due to low end torque RTR,220 have an advantage over NS.By offroading I mean real bad roads,potholes etc.In my place riding consists of accelerating to 60 km/hr and immediately coming back to 10.Its really annoying having to shift down to 2nd always,even in my splendor(I sometimes stand up on pegs without reducing much speed)I think with 200 ns I will have to bring it down to 1.On a long drive this will be annoying like hell.This is the only one negative point I can think of 200 ns.Other than this NS rules over all other bikes below 1L(thats what I think,any differ please tell,before me buying NS).
                        Is n't this one drawback?
                        "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by albyjose View Post
                          Is n't this one drawback?
                          Yes, it is, and because of the bad low end torque of NS and short gearing ratio.. I was frustrated like hell in the first few days due to this, but then got habituated.
                          But as S.Roy suggested, the duke also has the same drawback..
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                          • #28
                            Re: P200ns or ZMR or R15 or RTR 180

                            The feeling I get from the 200ns is that it's highway material. Meant for clean wide highways. Great top end. Comfy. Same with the duke.

                            R15 - track bike. Great power distribution. But lacks comfort. But many claim to have no problems with that. Its a corner-guys dream.

                            RTR - ABS makes it vfm. Handles like a dream. Can do decent highway and city too. It's an all rounder. Will never ace a particular segment. But will give you a bit of everything.

                            ZMR - it's a boat. Not for corners. But will do amazing on the highway. Veeeeryy comfortable. Wish they gave it a better top end. Then it would be the unbeaten multistrada of Indian motorcycles.

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                            • #29
                              TS: Don't mind but R15 don't come in these choices by any means. It's a Sportbike and fully for cornering and having fun on highways!!

                              R15 is for those who live and eat R15 same like RE fans!! For them pillion seat won't be a criteria ever, neither the power comparision or maintenance..etc...

                              it's love at first sight !!

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                              • #30
                                Its time TS should show up.. its 10 days from his last post already.

                                Like someone else suggested.. P220 is the best option he has.

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