Your right buddy, Max speed at 8000 rpm cant be 105kmph at all for a gt 250. My hero impulse 150cc touches 104 kmph at 8000 rpm.

1. Agree that V-twin is an advantage if it is a notable advantage but it is a 75o configuration.

2. Yamaha Vmax is 310 kgs is still heavier but it adjusts load pulling by its 197.3 bhp which means 1 horse to pull its each 1.571 kgs weight. MT01 is adjusting its 265 kgs with its 265 horses. Yamaha SZX also is moving with its 11.93 bhp to pull 135 kgs. Here it is true that weight of GT is greater by 0.114 kgs or 114 grams per horse power.

3. I doubt whether the word “poor” is proper here as the difference is a mere 114 grams.

4. As far as I know, the torque at the engine is multiplied by gear ratios to find out torque at rear sprocket. If I am correct, the torque applied at GT is wheel is greater that CBR except in 1^st gear. I know it is not a simple to calculate the torque in every gear at each rpm as we are not comparing two bikes with same torque at same rpm.

5. Longer wheel base alone is not the factors affecting stability and cornering. Please remember that Vmax, MT01, Bandit 1250S, Hayabusa etc too are surviving here.

6. No comments about the ABS brakes but let me say one fact. When being complained about the rubbing of the brake pads or about some usual noises from the disc brakes, some idiotic mechanics have the habit of letting in air in brake line in the hope of eliminating that problem. Another trick is applying a little grease on the disc. It is a common habit of almost all mechanics as they have nothing to do when being pressed by the bike owner. Was the bike you ridden in this condition? Having extremely sharp brakes are dangerous as it causes skidding.

7. The speed of GT I calculated at 10,000 rpm in 5^th gear is not correct because the primary reduction of it was calculated as 3.290 instead of the correct 3.0526 (58/19). Now, with 2017.086 mm tyre circumference and 1186.9065 rear wheel revolutions per minute at 10,000 rpm in 5^th gear, the theoretical speed is 143.65 kmh. At 8000 rpm it is 114.91 kmh. The actual on road speed, as usual, is much lesser for any bike. If I am incorrect, what is the correct speed in your opinion and how was it calculated?

It is true that riding a sports bike with a female pillion rider is not comfortable for both. Waiting for Duke 390 with 43.4 bhp at 9500 and 35 Nm at 7250 rpm and mere 139 kgs weight is wiser though its compression ratio is 12.6:1; I think.

I was trying to find out whether how I compare the bikes is correct or not. Everybody has something to give us even if we have nothing to share with them. So, your reply was helpful and thanks for it.

It was a mistake from me. The speed is about 114 kmh at 8000 rpm. But not the power or torque but the gearing is deciding the speed.

is it possible to fit a tank bag on GT250 .. ??

@Punarvasu, you are missing the point. The peak power, torque and gearing of a bike doesn't determine whether it is a sports bike or an adventure tourer or a street-bike. Its the riding position which determines which segment the manufacturer intends the bike to belong to. For example, Karizma, Pulsar 180 and R15v2, all 3 produce roughly 17 Ps of peak power. But obviously all 3 belong to 3 different segments *because* of the difference in riding position (and non-drivetrain parts)!

In short, you dismissed the essential point of this discussion (riding position) as *subjective* and are concentrating on the bit that nobody was discussing or was interested in discussing because, as you yourself have clearly shown, that there is very little difference in the engine performance of both bikes. So, I would suggest you to do 2 things:

1. Read the discussion prior to your post properly and only then post on this thread if you feel that you are still even roughly on topic.
2. Keep the numbers to the minimum. We trust that you know your calculations, no need to show all of them in the post. If people have any doubts, they will PM you.

@Prince: If you do take the decision to buy the GT250R, best of luck from my side. As for your query, yes, Tank bags can be used with all bikes (including those with plastic tanks.) Its just that the type of tankbag changes depending on the material of the tank i.e. Magnetic for metallic tanks only, suction based for both plastic/metallic tanks. As far as I know, the GT250R has a metallic tank (though I could be wrong).

no no anant, my question was different.

obviously i know all that magnetic and suction stuff, i already have cramster magnetic tank bag, and GT has a metallic tank, not plastic. but that was not the question.

see, it has a very sporty riding position and rider is crouched forward, that the space between your chest+tummy combo and tank is very less, so is it possible to mount a tank bag and not impair the movement of rider.

also the handle is very low, so a tank bag may just interfere with handle when trying to move the handle sideways,

i dont know, i am just dobtful.

ninja & r15 guys may help.


lol... today my wife said that when i was riding it, i was looking like a rider in road rage game or motogp game, vroom vroom, brake voom, lean left, lean right....

I hope it should not be a problem. Because I had used it some time ago on my R15 while a Aurangabad trip 1100kms totally.
So I think it should be same on GT250R as well.

Sorry mate riding positions plays a vital role while riding and choosing as a daily bike or weekend bike.

In simple term if you go by GT250R ownership thread then you will get more better idea which are the truth of real life by them. And whether this bike can be a Daily riding commuter ?
As far as comparison is concerned CBR is more economical and VFM with Honda brand today in India with big SVC all over. Honda is more city friendly then GT.
Pillion are still acceptable on CBR over GT. There are some trip by CBR owners with their better half and din't complain about anything worse or bad.

And one has to decide whether he has to pay those extra Ks compare to CBR ??

Hyosung still need some time to establish itself in India and it needs to start with more SVC all over.

LOL man...every line in your post reflects how enthusiastic you are about your soon-to-be-(p)ride!

As you are more experienced than me, you may be correct.

But I have a simple doubt here. If the riding position of a Bajaj M-80 is altered, does it become a sports bike? If your opinion is yes, I too am ready to agree with you simply because I am not interested in arguments and hence try to keep away from it, keeping my opinion firmly in my mind.

That was intentional. I cannot understand why nobody is interested in discussing about the output of any bike when it is more important than its riding posture. I was trying to compare the engine performance of these bikes which nobody else did.

Do you think somebody selecting a bike after long test ride is not aware of the riding position of that bike and he, being an experienced rider, needs repeated warning about it? Yet I too have pointed out that riding a sports bike – or a so called bike – with a female pillion rider will not be comfortable for both. The main reason, besides the uncomfortable sitting, is that if the pillion rider leans backward, it causes severe imbalance.

I too am asking you the same. Please read my posts completely.

I know that you know that I know my calculations well but I thought posting it in detail with sharp figures is better than inviting an avoidable PM demanding clarifications.


Prince, if you decide to buy GT250R, it is good decision if servicing and spare parts are available and the riding position is comfortable to both you and pillion rider and if you don’t find out some other bikes with similar or better performance like Duke 390 which, from the reviews, seems to be a good machine. GT is in market from 2005 but not much popular in India, one reason being the lack of dealership network as somen 1984 pointed out. Other reason is, I think, its price. See, higher cc bikes are still not so popular even in cities or IT hubs like Chennai, Bangalore or Hyderabad where I met the most cunning, most greedy auto rickshaw drivers in my life.

If Duke 390 is really better, why can’t wait for it?

I do understand your point about the riding position and that is why I asked him to select GT only if it is comfortable to him and his better half as a pillion rider and servicing and spare parts are easily available.

When I was in need of a brake bleeding nut and two nuts for the lower half chain cover of my bike, it was not available at the SC for a whole fortnight. The result? I was forced to ride with the spongy disc brake depending the poor rear brake for two weeks. This unavailability of parts is common. Even some simple parts like nuts of the most popular bikes too may not be readily available. But waiting for a nut to be imported after we ask for it is different.

The rider’s stance on Aprilia RS125 or Hayabusa is more forward leaning than GT and those bikes are costlier. Do you think even a single Aprilia or Hayabusa was not sold as commuter bike anywhere in our country and if it was sold, are sure that that owner is an all time solo rider? Can you say none of the bikes with forward leaning stance (or sports bikes as it is defined now) are ridden on ordinary roads? All are personal preferences. As far as I understand, nothing disastrous is to happen if a bike with 28 bhp and 22.6 Nm torque is ridden in a sports bike stance. So let us avoid baseless arguments for the sake of arguments.

All the complains from the bike owners – whether it is GS, GT, CBR, Bajaj, Yamaha or any other bike – are not genuine. And all the bikes other than GT are not problem free. See how some bikers still complain seriously about the rubbing sound from the disk brakes. Another common doubt is about the after effects of revving a bike to its maximum in its running in period. Amazingly, these doubts arise after revving the bike; not before. Remember how many complaints were there in the CBR250R’s forum in the initial days. Some are genuine; some are not. That is why I asked to make sure that servicing of the bike is easy and parts are available.

what ever the logic .. but in India anything belongs to everything.
one can use any bike for any purpose.

So plz stop this comparisons or details ...

@prince .. i think by this time you might have made some of your choices, if yes then ask the mods to close the thread as it served its purpose

@prince : You might have read this but I would like to quote it anyway "Bikes are not supposed to be a rational decision. If you can park it and walk away without looking back to admire it, you got the wrong one!" Trust me, if you get the GT, you will keep admiring & not walk away Say you bought the CBR250, but every time you ride, if you keep thinking I shouldve bought the GT250 & regret, what is the point? I understand there are practical reasons like spares/service but in the end you should be happy with what you bought, which I doubt you will be if you buy anything other than the GT.
Just my 2 cents

I think Mr. Prince has already decided in his heart to buy the GT250 since he is mighty impressed with it. And now he just needs some assurances that his decision is correct. Right prince?

So prince which color and when is the booking ??

In how many days will you get the bike ??

And special number ?

Come on give us some good news Man!!

yes, you are right, in india, be it any bike, it has to do almost all the things a normal bike does.

but i will wait for some more time before asking the mods to close this so that if there is any doubt, i can ask it here, although everything is pretty much clear now.


you spoke my heart out man....


colour in all probability will be red and black, if i get a GT

there is still some time in booking. after having discussed with all the frnds out here.... i am taking my time to think about it.

special thanks to nagoo (the lone Hyosung warrior on xbhp), aargee (the wise man) & melroyal and everybody here ... everybody's inputs were valuable including The Monk, antz.bin, ryan.virgo, max007, Divya Sharan, albyjose, experimentalhead, saipranav, somen1984, bbsrailfan, viks, Adarsh_Bk, Satallite.kid, and punarvasu for throwing in some numbers though i was not exactly looking for numbers.

damn the all black GT250R 2013 version looks too hot man, but it ain't coming soon to india.

this is so difficult to choose the right bike specially with P375 and RC390 also coming in soon, just like choosing the right wife....but hey i had a love marriage and not an arranged marriage.... so i have a history of going with the heart....

Honestly, too much of discussion and comparison can cause more confusion to the buyer than actually helping him to buy his mean-machine. There is no perfect bike. Every bike has its limitations and strong areas. A Harley Davidson can never go where an Impulse can go...A 500 CC can never give better fuel efficiency than a 100 CC. So, please accept the facts. If you want a Super bike on Indian roads and losing sleep over it, please go buy it. Please do not compare two machines. Buy what you want. Because you have to ride it at the end of the day. Person suggesting or suggested, including myself, won't ride your bike. I know people who hate Harleys and also come across few who just do not like the very idea of owning a super bike for daily commuting or for touring. So, your heart is set on Hyosung. Go buy it. If you let your mind over rule your heart and buy anything else, I am sure you will repent and try to convince yourself of whatever you buy.