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  • #16
    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    ^^ not interested in mojo and D200/390. P390 is still some time away.

    GT250R does not have a fan for radiator... plz answer, if this is right..??

    also it does not have a sensor for engine heat....??

    and the FI system is open loop.. right...??

    i need to check headlamps once again.

    and i am not going to commute this way forever, six months or one year maximum. thats it. so i think i can manage a GT250R without much difficulty.
    Fan is not there
    Heat sensor is there but guage is not there
    FI open loop not sure.. but it is standard similar to other bikes

    See , you don't have a much choice when it comes to affordable sports bike.. this is the only one we have.
    i was also same situation as you are now , i had to choose b/w Ninja used for 1.7L and new GTR , after i rode GTR in test drive i made my choice. coz i hated the ninja riding position. its my personal taste.
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    • #17
      so if there is no heat gauge, what is the use of heat sensor, does it cut-off the engine if it becomes too hot....??
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      • #18
        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
        "Anant ji" i never liked Duke, so 200 or 390, i don't like it. i want a sportsbike, i am actually fed up with the commuter/streetfighter riding stance. although it hurts to know that a bike probably costing less than GT250 will be faster. no nakeds, no streetfighters. period.
        Fair enough, I understand your point of view. In an ideal world, you would probably buy a 250cc R15 and be happy with it for years to come. But in the not-so-ideal real world, we have to make compromises based on our priorities. Considering your usage of 100km of 4-lane Highway and 60km on well tarred ghat roads everyday, what you ideally need is a bike adept at both, and still not prohibitively expensive. The best option in this scenario is well and truly the Ninja 300.

        The option you seem to be interested in, i.e. the GT250R (Rs. 2.76 lac ex showroom Pune OR just about 3.2 lac OTR Pune) actually is not much lower priced compared to a Ninja 300 (Edit: Rs. 3.85 lac OTR Pune) if you look at it subjectively. The one major benefit you get by opting for the Ninja over the GT is that since it is a much better specced machine than the GT250R, it will keep you happier longer. Secondly, since it is already 39 Ps, you will be better shielded against the urge to upgrade to a 40odd bhp bike 1/2 years down the line which there will be plenty by then. The urge to upgrade, as you know, is a real thing, especially considering the bikes that have been unveiled in the recent past. Among the trio, finances notwithstanding, Ninja 300 should be the obvious choice.

        But if we bring down the budget to effectively exclude the Ninja, among the 2 250s, CBR ABS is the one I would pick if I were you. CBR ABS(ABS is highly recommended considering the high usage) is the safer bet in all scenarios that I can think of and to top it, you will end up saving a cool 1.2 lac (initial + ~15k/year in fuel costs alone) by opting for it. Had your usage been weekend-only rides to Lavasa, GT250R would have been the ideal bike but since you need more of an all-rounder (considering your future touring plans), the CBR ABS would be the smarter choice, and not just financially.

        Finally, this video should help you decide better:
        2013 Beginner Sportbike Shootout - YouTube

        P.S.: The oil-cooling system on the GT250R is similar to the one seen on Pulsar/Avenger 200/220.
        P.P.S.: The time that you have been waiting to complete your purchase, you deserve nothing but the best.
        Last edited by antz.bin; 04-15-2013, 05:31 PM. Reason: updated N300 OTR Pune price
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        • #19
          Daily dose of 160 kms is a serious issue with GT250R because of obvious reason, major one is that your back bone will be suffering a lot. Riding posture of this bike does not support your daily dose of kms ridden. You will be churning miles a lot & that does not go well with Hyosung for sure. Honda can be your most favorable mate.

          Go for for a cruiser oriented bike (2013 CBR250R, upcoming CBR400R, RE 500 Classic & ZMA/R).
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          • #20
            Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
            Guys, earlier i was planning to buy a CBR250, for obvious reasons, but have now recently took a test ride of GT250 and was completely blown away by it.

            i love its looks, its riding posture, exhaust note, linear fuel delivery, the way it handles, smooth revving engine, big bike feel etc.

            i am completely aware about its weakness, like weak brakes, difficult to ride in city and poor fit and finish etc....

            i will be using it for going to office daily which is around 160 kms round trip daily (80+80) and i am completely OK with riding stance.

            you can refer the ongoing discussion here --->>




            now my main question is -- how reliable is the bike, and how competent are the service centers, what is the condition on spare parts availability. etc as reliability is a factor for me.

            all Hyosung owners, senior members, moderators & those who have tested it plz contribute.
            In simple terms CBR 250 ABS/D390 ABS is best to ride for 160kms...

            Mark my word...even if you are Rossi or any great rider, you will be fed with riding stance of GT250R for daily community of 160kms, even if you say it's for one year or so.
            Forget about the maintenance and petrol price etc...



            Here the best one for your power/speed thirst is wiped with D390 or CBR250ABS.

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            • #21
              "Anant", minor correction --> GT250R is 3.06 Lakhs OTR Pune.

              yes you are right Ninja300 is miles ahead of GT250R in terms of everything, but i am not going to stretch my budget by 80K and i believe ninja spares will be costly too.


              out of CBR250R and GT250R, everybody seems to be suggesting CBR only.... but GT250R is so addictive.... man.... i cant stop thinking about it.

              performance wise, i amnot going to race it in any competition, so performance wise i am ok with GT250R, Ninja is not required.

              only worry is quality, reliability, service and spare etc etc ....

              i will give it a deep thought.......and then decide....

              one major thing is that i am not going to do this 160 kms daily for entire life.... 6 months to 1 year max.

              lets see....

              where the hell are all hyosung owners.... ???
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              • #22
                @prince
                Dude, just go for the GT250 man, you know what you need... what are you waiting for?
                BTW, if you want to talk to any Hyosung owners, why don't you check out the service station of Hyosung, you might find one or two at least...
                Also, i suggest you take the number of the regional engineer of Hyosung and talk to him about the technical doubts, this way you will know more about the bike than a regular owner.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                  Guys, earlier i was planning to buy a CBR250, for obvious reasons, but have now recently took a test ride of GT250 and was completely blown away by it.

                  i love its looks, its riding posture, exhaust note, linear fuel delivery, the way it handles, smooth revving engine, big bike feel etc.

                  i am completely aware about its weakness, like weak brakes, difficult to ride in city and poor fit and finish etc....

                  i will be using it for going to office daily which is around 160 kms round trip daily (80+80) and i am completely OK with riding stance.

                  you can refer the ongoing discussion here --->>




                  now my main question is -- how reliable is the bike, and how competent are the service centers, what is the condition on spare parts availability. etc as reliability is a factor for me.

                  all Hyosung owners, senior members, moderators & those who have tested it plz contribute.
                  Just wait a couple of months more, and let the CBR 500 launch, may be around 3 lacs. Should not happen that you buy d gt250 or cbr 250 and 2-3 months after that you see the cbr 500 on the road and you regret that you should have waited a little more and feel like killing yourself. There is a sum fruit called 'sabar', i have heard, its very sweet, never tasted though
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                  • #24
                    @prince: sometimes the mind can't win over the heart.
                    Technically, ergonomically, logically and maybe financially, the CBR makes a more suitable option...but visually the GT250 wins (lots way hotter, I must admit that the CBR loses here) and emotionally (as you have your heart set madly on the GT) as well.

                    I faced the same dilemma ZMR vs CBR and finally listened to my heart, as there was practically very less difference between ZMR and CBR and the CBR was 50K above my budget as well. Sometimes it'd difficult to listen to logic. Sometimes you just gotta say to yourself: "Ja beta, jee le apni zindegi" (go on son, live your life!)

                    Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                      my wife had difficulty with the bike, first of all the rear seat is too high, she needs a ladder to climb onto rear seat, jokes apart ... she placed her feet on riders footpeg first and then climbed to rear seat, the pillion can not even place her foot on pillion's footpeg to climb onto seat coz the pillion footpeg is also too high. that said once seated things were quite ok ... but not for long ... as i started, the sudden jolts of accelaration and braking kept her swinging front and back, after 5-10 mins i stopped by the side of road, asked her to wrap her hands around me and place her palms on the fuel tank for support, now she was not moving back and forth, but this position means she is also bend forward like the rider, and she is not used to it, after 5 mins she said, enough -- "i am gonna sit straight only".

                      after the test ride was over, she said- you can have this bike if you like, but remember- "rossi does doesn't ride with his wife as pillion and surely he don't tour on his M1"
                      Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                      but GT250R is so addictive.... man.... i cant stop thinking about it
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        "Anant", minor correction --> GT250R is 3.06 Lakhs OTR Pune.
                        yes you are right Ninja300 is miles ahead of GT250R in terms of everything, but i am not going to stretch my budget by 80K and i believe ninja spares will be costly too.
                        out of CBR250R and GT250R, everybody seems to be suggesting CBR only.... but GT250R is so addictive.... man.... i cant stop thinking about it.
                        performance wise, i amnot going to race it in any competition, so performance wise i am ok with GT250R, Ninja is not required.
                        only worry is quality, reliability, service and spare etc etc ....
                        i will give it a deep thought.......and then decide....
                        one major thing is that i am not going to do this 160 kms daily for entire life.... 6 months to 1 year max.
                        lets see....
                        where the hell are all hyosung owners.... ???
                        You are getting contagious/viral !! You will surely make some other as well mad and increase hyosung's sale in India!

                        Frankly speaking we need some madness to buy a sports bike! Which I see in you now. After so many denials, you are still firm to buy and giving reasons to convince us infact!! he he ...

                        You should buy it now!!

                        Infact we will enjoy reading your ownership review about GT250R.
                        Atlast I see one prospective owner to be active on GT250R thread(If you are not tired and don't go to sleep after the ride :P ).

                        We will get immense review on performance and Servicing from you dude...

                        Come on Prince let us hear the delivery date of GT250R !!

                        If you really buy GT250R then surely this thread is going to get more hotter for the pics !!

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                        • #27
                          I think you have a pulsar 150 don't part it have it with you for family rides and go for gt250 at the most possible don't ride with your better half on gt250 .

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                          • #28
                            hmmmmnnn, i am in a deep thought mode.....

                            lets see .... how it turns out....
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                              You are getting contagious/viral!! Frankly speaking we need some madness to buy a sports bike!
                              Sorry for the intrusion. Just to learn the basics from the experts like you, kindly explain how far Hyosung GT250R is inferior to CBR250R from these details.

                              Let us forget the riding position which purely is subjective. And GT is not the only sports bike or supposed to be sports bike accepted in India.

                              Thanks in advance.

                              CBR 250R HYOSUNG GT250R
                              CC 249 249
                              Bore 76.0 57.0
                              Stroke 55.0 48.8
                              Bore/Stroke Ratio 1.38 1.17
                              Kerb weight 165 188
                              BHP 25 @ 8500 rpm 28 @ 10000 rpm
                              Power to Weight ratio 1 bhp for each 6.6 kgs 1 bhp each 6.714 kgs
                              Torque 23 @ 7000 rpm 22.69 @ 8000 rpm
                              Torque to weight ratio 1 Nm for each 7.174 kgs 1 Nm for each 8.286 kgs
                              Primary Gear Ratio 2.808 3.290
                              Final “ ” 2.714 3.286
                              Overall reduction 7.621 10.811
                              1st “ “ 3.333 2.462
                              2nd “ “ 2.118 1.556
                              3rd “ “ 1.571 1.190
                              4th “ “ 1.304 0.957
                              5th “ “ 1.115 0.840
                              6th “ “ 0.963 0.000
                              Rear Tyre Size 140/70-17 150/70-17
                              Fuel Tank Capacity (Ltr) 13.00 17.00
                              L x W x H 2035 x 720x 1125 2080 x 760 x 1120
                              Seat Height 780 795
                              Wheel Base 1370 1455
                              Ground Clearance 145 155
                              Maximum speed at 8000 rpm 129 105
                              Maximum torque (Nm) at rear wheel (1st gear) 584 604
                              Front brake 296 mm 300 mm (Double disc)
                              Rear brake 220 mm 230 mm
                              Maximum speed 135 @ 8500 rpm 133 @ 10000 rpm
                              Last edited by punarvasu; 04-16-2013, 09:46 PM.

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                              • #30
                                nothing is inferior man, but there are positive and aspects for each bike...

                                Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                                Sorry for the intrusion. Just to learn the basics from the experts like you, kindly explain how far Hyosung GT250R is inferior to CBR250R from these details. Let us forget the riding position which purely is subjective. And GT is not the only sports bike or supposed to be sports bike accepted in India. Thanks in advance.
                                CBR 250R HYOSUNG GT250R
                                CC 249 249
                                Bore 76.0 57.0 V-twin engine is an advantage for GT250
                                Stroke 55.0 48.8
                                Bore/Stroke Ratio 1.38 1.17
                                Kerb weight 165 188 GT250 is heavier, so engine has to pull a heavier load, this brings down performance
                                BHP 25 @ 8500 rpm 28 @ 10000 rpm
                                Power to Weight ratio 1 bhp for each 6.6 kgs 1 bhp each 6.714 kgs power to weight ratio of GT250 is poor
                                Torque 23 @ 7000 rpm 22.69 @ 8000 rpm
                                Torque to weight ratio 1 Nm for each 7.174 kgs 1 Nm for each 8.286 kgs torque to weight ration of GT250 is poorOverall reduction 7.621 10.811
                                1stndrdthththadvantage GT250R
                                L x W x H 2035 x 720x 1125 2080 x 760 x 1120
                                Seat Height 780 795
                                Wheel Base 1370 1455 longer wheelbase imparts more straight line stability, but adversly effects cornering
                                Ground Clearance 145 155
                                Maximum speed at 8000 rpm 129 105 this is incorrect data for GT250
                                Maximum torque (Nm) at rear wheel (1st gear) 584 604
                                Front brake 296 mm 300 mm (Double disc) it is not the brake size that matters, instead what matters is braking effeceincy
                                Rear brake 220 mm 230 mm
                                Maximum speed 135 @ 8500 rpm 133 @ 10000 rpm this is incorrect data for GT250
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