Re: Should I buy a bike?

I've been waiting for the Pulsar 200 SS for some time now. And I've been wasting too much money for petrol these days. At a time when my other expenses are mounting, this fuel expense is really hurting my pocket.
As you guys know, I have little experience as a rider. So I'm thinking about getting a used Pulsar for now and then exchanging it as soon as the SS is launched. A friend told me that the dealer would give around 15k for virtually any bike presented for exchange.

So I'm thinking like, if I can get a decent bike for less than 15k, I can improve my riding skills, bring the fuel expenses down and can hopefully sell/exchange it without a loss. Another benefit I see is that, with this experience, I can confidently 'run-in' my new bike.

But from what I read, finding a decent used bike can be tough and there are some legal hurdles I'll have to jump to own it. Fraud dealers and sellers are another big issue. This is what worries me.

What do you guys think? Should I, or should I not go for a used one?

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Actually a relatively smaller part of us loves naked bikes more than faired. Some likes both equally I am just one of that kind. For instance the new z1000 or superduke 1290 are outstanding without fairing. Here Z1000 is more beautiful than z 1000sx (faired). Beacuse z is originally naked.

But bikes borne as a faired bike looks great too zx 10, rc8 r, r1 etc

So just adding a fairing may not make it more beautiful. But will add usability. More so for a tourer.

That is what making the ninja 1000 serious bike in kawi lineup

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You are not what fits in the well accepted definition of a "biker"
You want it only to save money, then why a 200 NS.

Get a Hero Ignitor and live happily ever after. Great FE + good looks.

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If you take a look at my profile you'll know what kinda bikes I like. Or just look at my profile pic man! BUT I have no doubt about the fact that the R15, in terms of looks, belongs to a different league when compared to the NS. The other guy loves that bike (NS) so much so that he is blind.

If a bike is not intended for commuting, ya I'm not a biker. Yeah, one of the reasons why I plan to buy a bike is because of the fuel savings. I chose the NS because it has enough low end grunt and good looks. It has some good features as well.
I spend a lot of money for fueling my car these days. I'm a student and I live off my parents. They're very kind and asking for even more money is not something I think I should do. I'm relatively new to biking and I haven't reached that level of addiction at which one compares a Duke 390 to an Audi A6. And I think xbhp is a platform for those love to ride; not just for those who live to ride.



I'm a bit disappointed. I was looking for your opinions regarding the idea of buying a used bike for temporary use. All I got was some OT stuff.

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@raging_bull Dont be disappointed please. this is a public forum, so you will get good and bad feedbacks. Just learn to live with it just as we have.

coming to your quires. its pretty much established that:
1. you are confused.
2. you are more of a car guy
3. you need a bike that saves your fuel cots as well as something that makes you happy thinking that this bike will stay good for few years
4. you are a commuter.

please take this as a advise. we are not the best people to suggest you a particular bike, because it ultimately boils down to you. you , my friend, will be the person to ride it. so we can give you options and you will have to decide. i see that you are over analyzing things and making it complicated.

if you are ok with an FE of 35avg, then you are looking at performance segment. these bikes will demand certain level of maintenance. are you up for it? there are p200ns, fz16/fzs, pulsar180, p220, apache etc. good power and also the FE wil be around 35avg.

wanna save more money? then get bikes form hero and honda in the price bracket of 60k to 90k. better FE and little lesser maintenance cost.

every bike has its own drawbacks like someone said here. you will have to figure out if you can live with it. when i got my r15v2, i knew the pillion seat is a pain for the pillion, i accepted it knowing that i will be riding it most of the times without pillion and heck, i am riding for myself so i wanna enjoy it.

so choose for yourself. because its you who is gonna ride it. choose wisely.

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Hehe points 1 to 4 are indeed correct.

I know that bikes need frequent maintenance. I don't know much about the costs involved but I think it wont be much. An FE of 35kmpl will do because the car returns only 10kmpl and nowadays I drive for around 45km every day except Sundays, which leaves me with a fuel bill of close to Rs.9000. You can easily imagine why I decided to buy a bike. It's not that I'm going for a bike just to save some money. There are other reasons as well like the ones mentioned in the first post of the thread.

Pillion comfort is important, FE figure of 35 sounds okyish though I'll be even more happy with something closer to 40. Looks of the bike IS important for obvious reasons. It should have enough torque for quick overtaking with a pillion. So, I have decided to wait for the SS. I see a bike as a long term investment. So I think it's better to spend some money and get a good product 'I like' instead buying an inferior product and regretting it later.

Thanks a lot for your inputs. But even you didn't answer my question! Is it wise to buy a used bike for temporary use before you buy a new one, if you can exchange it for the same price after a couple of months?

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Was just saying that fairing is there not for show but for purpose(except for posers) the other guy thinks it's like a plastic cover for a phone. A noise, because he may not be tourer or not bothered about wind blast. It's not required for his purpose so it's just a noise.

We cannot compare a faired bike with a naked bike in looks. It's tragic and ill. r15 is beautiful. but that doesn't mean faired bikes are always more beautiful. It's a personal thing. Saying it again to clear out any wrong perception.

Lets move to your requirements:

Efficincy, style and power and great price that's what a 200 ns is. but you likes faired bikes it seems. Waiting may help to get a faired pulsar. But remember if you are not using your bike much for touring or high speed crouising, fairing will not give any functional advantage.

I will not recommend adding fairings etc on a naked bike (200 ns) like somebody said.

Since you are looking for a city commuter a naked bike will better in my opinion.

However in my country very less people buys "what they actually need" but buys "what they loves"

For a faired bike with power mire than an ns you may have to look at cbr 250 . I don't see many options for you now! In 1L bracket. Waiting will get you stuff in 1 - 1.5 L bracket.

By the way forgot the new zmr it got some 20+ hp check if it works for you.

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sorry i didnt see that used bike thingi.

buying used bike is tricky. if the 1st owner has not maintained it properly then you will end up with bad bike and bad feedback about it. get in touch with a person who has sound knowledge in bikes and get his help.

but after you use it and resell it you will sell it at lesser price. if you are getting a less used bike at close to the market value of the new one, then its wise to get the new one with little money extra. as i said. choose wisely.

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I don't think I will ride a bike fast enough to feel the need for a fairing. I'm no poseur but looks of the bike is really important to me. It really is. Reasons are several. I need it to make some people (and thereby myself) happy. For my requirements, a CBR 250 is kind of like an overkill I guess. And it's out of budget too. I decided to wait for the SS because I felt I would get a better looking bike for a little more money. And honestly, I don't like the way the ZMR looks. Btw, performance is not my top priority .

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I'm actually thinking about buying a cheap used bike. It'll be used to practice and improve my motorcycling skills and for some short trips, if necessary. I plan to sell it off when Bajaj launches the 200SS(I hope they do) in a couple of months. I heard that the dealer will give a minimum value of around 15K for a bike presented for exchange. So I don't think I will suffer any loss.

But it's the difficulty in finding one and the legal procedures involved in buying and selling that worries me. Is it that difficult?

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Look, lets try this again.

You're not going to go on the highways. You're not going to tour. You're not going to attend biker meets.
You are buying the bike only to save fuel.(or atleast thats what /i gathered from your opening post)
And since you're getting a bike just to save fuel, why not get a bike that saves even more fuel than the 200NS.

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Glad that you didn't recommend this one for more FE:

Bikes can be used for purposes other than the ones mentioned by you. I have already mentioned my requirements. FE is only one of them and I'll will be happy with something around 40kmpl.

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If you are a naked bike fan....then why don't you give a look for yamaha fz

you live only once.....

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If for 20k more you're getting a great power at your disposal ,why bother for fz

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Like Anuj said, the 200NS is a much better bike for a little more money. FZ is an old model and is about to get outdated soon. And I like the looks of the NS more.

Guys, stop recommending bikes. I have already taken decision. That is, to wait till the launch of the 200SS. I re-opened this thread to ask you this.

Please respond to that instead of starting OT discussions.

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I like moto gp, bit I'm a die hard NAKED BIKER ,how can I say I love ns more and r15 less or even hate ..? Because a own a red NS and a blue r15 V2 ,still my heart pounds for ns only ,and the Kawasaki z1000 2014 edition is what I will trade 5 years of my life for ..( seriously)
Regarding fairing use ,if you go on a tour every Sunday for 300+km or go through highway 100km+ daily ,then faring is useful ,otherwise it will be a poser and after 3-4 years a noise producing part of bike more than the engine itself
It doesn't depends on what company you like ,what IS price or specs ,it comes to either what fairing or baked you like and what are the options around your so called budget ( I stretched mine budget from 25k to 95k for ns)
Regarding old bike ,font go dealer ,if a known assosiacte is selling then grab it .otherwise you're buying trouble for money ,I looked through thousands of old pulsars for three months and didn't found any worth buying ,then saw a ns real closely and went eyes closed .

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