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    Hi Xbhpians,

    I've been following xbhp for quite a while now. Finally, the time has come for myself to become an xbhpian.

    I own a Gladiator Type JA for the past 6 years.
    Till a couple of years ago, it was just fine. I didn't have any major problems... untill... I've sacrificed my Glady once for myself.

    The Accident:

    I was cruising @ around 80 kmph around midnight on a relatively unknown road, and then all of a sudden, I found myself in a tight corner (almost 90%).
    I've tried to bring down the speed by using both the front and rear brakes at once, but it's not coming down, obviously bcoz the speed is too much for that tight corner.

    Then and there itself, I understood that I'm going to fall down, and to reduce injuries to myself, I thought of something, which I can say had actually worked out.
    I had earlier experience that, if we apply even a little brake during a corner off road (say, in the dust/sand part), the bike skids easily. So, keeping in mind that, I just drove straight off road, without applying any brake, hoping that I would go into some fields (it was city outskirts).

    The bike didn't skid, but, the path was not so plain (there was 2-3 feet downhill), due to which I fell down.

    I just had a small injury on my butt (lucky I guess), but my Glady wasn't so lucky.
    I somehow drove it till my home, and the next day, I gave it to nearby Castrol bike zone, as I don't have a Yamaha service center nearby.

    Then The Problems started:
    I'd to keep my bike there for almost 2 weeks for different kind of reasons, but mostly due to unavailability of spares. Only later I came to know that, we should not keep our bikes that long in any service centers.

    I got it back from repair, but I've been facing problems ever since. Now, the sound coming from the engine is not so pleasant, and also there is complete loss of pick-up. I doubt I can ride uphill with it now even without a pillion.

    Time to Change:
    Now, coming to the point, I've been thinking about changing my bike now.

    When I've purchased my bike originally, people said that I would get very less resale value for Yamaha, but, I was sure at that time that, I would never ever have the need to buy another bike (trusting Yamaha). Either way, I don't regret buying it bcoz of resale value, but, I'd a lot of regret initially buying a 125cc bike instead of 150cc (even more when I drove a 150cc bike). Nevertheless, I've moved on gradually.

    I'd researched a lot while buying Glady (almost a month), but, now, I don't have that much time. I'm planning to buy it next month 1st week itself (hopefully, my finance would be ready by that time).

    Requirements:
    1. Budget - 80k
    2. Age - 29
    3. Height - 5'10''
    4. Weight - 75kgs
    5. Intended usage - mostly office commute (possible long trips occasionally)
    6. Fuel Efficiency requirement - 45-50 kmpl
    7. City & Highway percentage usage - 20 & 80 respectively as of now (this will change to 80 & 20 respectively in 4-5 months when I change my office)

    8. Approximate Daily / Monthly running - 1000kms/month
    9. City - Hyderabad
    10. Brand / Bike type preference (if any) - GS150r

    Suzuki vs Bajaj:

    As I've mentioned in the title, I've narrowed them to these brands.

    I've a soft spot for Suzuki, may be bcoz, I've learned my driving on a Max100.
    Pulsar 150 is actually more of my wife's choice, may be bcoz she sees lots of pulsars in the streets and in the parking lots.

    I know both there bikes have their pros and cons. I'm listing down a few that I know of -

    GS150r Pros:
    Engine reliability
    Better gearbox
    Good ride comfort
    More stability at high speeds
    Less vibrations at high speeds
    Better console features

    Pulsar 150 Pros:
    Better looks
    Better headlight
    Full DC
    More service centers
    Better resale value
    Better spares availability

    GS150r cons:
    Not so attractive looksSpares availability issue
    Less service centers

    Pulsar 150 cons:
    Engine reliability
    Gearbox issue
    Just too many on the streets
    Quality of the spares

    Please add if I've missed any of the major pros and cons.

    I don't have a problem driving some 20-30 kms for a good service center, and waiting for spares (but, not so occasionally). So, I've decided to go for GS150r. I just somehow have to convince my wife.

    But, on some recent threads, I've read that the gearbox issue is solved in new Pulsars. Not sure how much of it is true. Can someone shed some light on this?
    Even today, my Glady's gearbox feels so smooth that I've never driven a pulsar that has such smooth gearbox.

    If new Pulsar's gearbox is good enough, then, I might even go for Pulsar.

    And, can someone tell me if GS150r has had any recent upgrades/changes (in 2013)?

    Finally, sorry for very long post. I know I'm just supposed to ask a question about which bike, but, I just couldn't resist to tell the actually reason for a new bike, and also the story behind it.
    Also, I guess I'm too enthusiastic bcoz this is my first post.

    Hope moderators will approve this thread....
    Last edited by RajendraNath; 10-24-2013, 08:02 PM.

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        Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

        Originally posted by RajendraNath View Post
        Hi Xbhpians,

        I've been following xbhp for quite a while now. Finally, the time has come for myself to become an xbhpian.

        I own a Gladiator Type JA for the past 6 years.
        Till a couple of years ago, it was just fine. I didn't have any major problems... untill... I've sacrificed my Glady once for myself.

        The Accident:

        I was cruising @ around 80 kmph around midnight on a relatively unknown road, and then all of a sudden, I found myself in a tight corner (almost 90%).
        I've tried to bring down the speed by using both the front and rear brakes at once, but it's not coming down, obviously bcoz the speed is too much for that tight corner.

        Then and there itself, I understood that I'm going to fall down, and to reduce injuries to myself, I thought of something, which I can say had actually worked out.
        I had earlier experience that, if we apply even a little brake during a corner off road (say, in the dust/sand part), the bike skids easily. So, keeping in mind that, I just drove straight off road, without applying any brake, hoping that I would go into some fields (it was city outskirts).

        The bike didn't skid, but, the path was not so plain (there was 2-3 feet downhill), due to which I fell down.

        I just had a small injury on my butt (lucky I guess), but my Glady wasn't so lucky.
        I somehow drove it till my home, and the next day, I gave it to nearby Castrol bike zone, as I don't have a Yamaha service center nearby.

        Then The Problems started:
        I'd to keep my bike there for almost 2 weeks for different kind of reasons, but mostly due to unavailability of spares. Only later I came to know that, we should not keep our bikes that long in any service centers.

        I got it back from repair, but I've been facing problems ever since. Now, the sound coming from the engine is not so pleasant, and also there is complete loss of pick-up. I doubt I can ride uphill with it now even without a pillion.

        Time to Change:
        Now, coming to the point, I've been thinking about changing my bike now.

        When I've purchased my bike originally, people said that I would get very less resale value for Yamaha, but, I was sure at that time that, I would never ever have the need to buy another bike (trusting Yamaha). Either way, I don't regret buying it bcoz of resale value, but, I'd a lot of regret initially buying a 125cc bike instead of 150cc (even more when I drove a 150cc bike). Nevertheless, I've moved on gradually.

        I'd researched a lot while buying Glady (almost a month), but, now, I don't have that much time. I'm planning to buy it next month 1st week itself (hopefully, my finance would be ready by that time).

        Requirements:
        1. Budget - 80k
        2. Age - 29
        3. Height - 5'10''
        4. Weight - 75kgs
        5. Intended usage - mostly office commute (possible long trips occasionally)
        6. Fuel Efficiency requirement - 45-50 kmpl
        7. City & Highway percentage usage - 20 & 80 respectively as of now (this will change to 80 & 20 respectively in 4-5 months when I change my office)

        8. Approximate Daily / Monthly running - 1000kms/month
        9. City - Hyderabad
        10. Brand / Bike type preference (if any) - GS150r

        Suzuki vs Bajaj:

        As I've mentioned in the title, I've narrowed them to these brands.

        I've a soft spot for Suzuki, may be bcoz, I've learned my driving on a Max100.
        Pulsar 150 is actually more of my wife's choice, may be bcoz she sees lots of pulsars in the streets and in the parking lots.

        I know both there bikes have their pros and cons. I'm listing down a few that I know of -

        GS150r Pros:
        Engine reliability
        Better gearbox
        Good ride comfort
        More stability at high speeds
        Less vibrations at high speeds
        Better console features

        Pulsar 150 Pros:
        Better looks
        Better headlight
        Full DC
        More service centers
        Better resale value
        Better spares availability

        GS150r cons:
        Not so attractive looksSpares availability issue
        Less service centers

        Pulsar 150 cons:
        Engine reliability
        Gearbox issue
        Just too many on the streets
        Quality of the spares

        Please add if I've missed any of the major pros and cons.

        I don't have a problem driving some 20-30 kms for a good service center, and waiting for spares (but, not so occasionally). So, I've decided to go for GS150r. I just somehow have to convince my wife.

        But, on some recent threads, I've read that the gearbox issue is solved in new Pulsars. Not sure how much of it is true. Can someone shed some light on this?
        Even today, my Glady's gearbox feels so smooth that I've never driven a pulsar that has such smooth gearbox.

        If new Pulsar's gearbox is good enough, then, I might even go for Pulsar.

        And, can someone tell me if GS150r has had any recent upgrades/changes (in 2013)?

        Finally, sorry for very long post. I know I'm just supposed to ask a question about which bike, but, I just couldn't resist to tell the actually reason for a new bike, and also the story behind it.
        Also, I guess I'm too enthusiastic bcoz this is my first post.

        Hope moderators will approve this thread....
        Both bikes are good. But gd150r is a better bike overall. Advantages are.
        1. 6th gear helps in cruising snd also aids better FE.
        2. Engine has been reported to be very much reliable.
        3. Very comfortable to ride.
        4. No/negligible vibes throughout the rpm range.

        So I would say go for gs150r. And You can always convert the electricals to DC.

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          Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

          Originally posted by skv View Post
          Both bikes are good. But gd150r is a better bike overall. Advantages are.
          1. 6th gear helps in cruising snd also aids better FE.
          2. Engine has been reported to be very much reliable.
          3. Very comfortable to ride.
          4. No/negligible vibes throughout the rpm range.

          So I would say go for gs150r. And You can always convert the electricals to DC.

          Sent from my GT-I9082 using xBhp Connect mobile app
          Thank you skv!
          I've one more doubt regarding Gs150r. I've read that the stock tyres of GS150r are not so good in wet conditions, bcoz of it's treading. Is it true?
          And exactly what is the advantage of full DC? Do we really need it? If so, how much would it cost approximately?

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          • #6
            Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

            I see that you are more inclined towards the GS, a good choice indeed. However, it is always better to clear your mind. [MENTION=41786]@KinZ[/MENTION] sir can help you with GS queries.
            I have recently ridden a P150 and I guess the gearing isn't as smooth as the GS or Unicorn or the FZ for that matter, other members may differ here.
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              Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

              I would say If you have no problem with service center and spare parts available easily at your local area, go for GS150r with close eyes.....
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              • #8
                Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                Thank you chaos! You mean to say, you've driven a new model P150?

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                Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post
                I would say If you have no problem with service center and spare parts available easily at your local area, go for GS150r with close eyes.....
                Thank you!
                99% - I might go for GS150r, but there's just 1% doubt for me. I want to clear that as well, by writing off P150.

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                • #9
                  Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                  Originally posted by RajendraNath View Post
                  Thank you chaos! You mean to say, you've driven a new model P150?

                  ---

                  It was bought last week But since it was just taken out of the showroom, I have my reservations regarding the smoothness of gears.

                  I would still suggest you to take test rides on both as that will give you a more practical stand to decide. Also consider aspects like ergonomics, comfort, pillion etc.
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                  • #10
                    Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                    Originally posted by RajendraNath View Post
                    Thank you!
                    99% - I might go for GS150r, but there's just 1% doubt for me. I want to clear that as well, by writing off P150.
                    Try to test ride both then decide yourself... For your height 5'10'', GS is greater comfort for your body than pulsar. I have ridden new pulsar of my relative recently, there will be great improvement in quality and engine refinement when compared to 1st gen pulsars but still way behind the Japanese.

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                    • #11
                      Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                      @chaosaddict - Yeah, that's true. We can't decide the gear smoothness based on the bikes that came just out of the showroom.
                      And, thanks for reminding me other aspects like rider/pillion comfort. I've almost forgot this point. I've heard that GS150r seat is positioned higher than most of the bikes in 150cc segment, but I think it's the same that of Gladiator (which has higher seat positioning when compared to Pulsar). My wife said that, she is not having any problem while hopping on my Glady. So, I'm guessing, she shouldn't have any problem with GS150r as well. Or, much better option is to take her for the test drive. Can we ride doubles during a TD?

                      @pavan_cin - You are right. I do have to take a TD for both of them. But, I've one silly doubt regarding TD. Do we've to submit our license of anything like that during a TD? If so, it might be a problem, bcoz, I've lost my wallet recently, and my DL along with that. So, it takes some time before I get it back.

                      Thanks in advance!

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                      • #12
                        Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                        GS 150R pillion seat is comfortable than FZs for long rides any day. In FZs, pillion bums take a toll in long rides.

                        TD with a pillion is at the disposal of the showroom, I guess - I haven't tried this request before.

                        All the best and keep us posted.
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                        • #13
                          Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                          Originally posted by RajendraNath View Post
                          Thank you skv!
                          I've one more doubt regarding Gs150r. I've read that the stock tyres of GS150r are not so good in wet conditions, bcoz of it's treading. Is it true?
                          And exactly what is the advantage of full DC? Do we really need it? If so, how much would it cost approximately?
                          I haven't heard such issues in gs150r, but you better chek in ownership thread. Regarding benefit of dc: the light doesn't fluctuate with rpm rather it gives constant illumination all the time I.e. at all rpm. Dont know exact cost but may be around 1000 rupees (others pls confirm)

                          But these two are NOT major things to see in my opinion. As you can always go for a better tyre and lighting. The things you must look at are engine, comfort, rideability, reliability etc. And gs150 is a very good bike, which I think everyone know/accept. One more thing 6th gear is an added advantage which shows on highways. .And as you are already 99% decided, I would say close your eyes and buy one and enjoy the ride. Wish you all the best.

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                          • #14
                            Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                            psr ji,
                            full DC conversion will cost a lot. Coil rewinding would be around 1000 rupees and the ape RR costs 1850 rupees, so including the labor charges and bulb price, 3500 rupees should be a good budget for DC conversion. Good thing is that after this conversion one can run 60/55watt halogen at idle rpm without draining the battery.
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                              Re: GS150r vs Pulsar 150

                              @RajendraNath well i own a GS that has done 70K kms in my last 3 years and is still going strong. Well regarding the overall comfort level i would say GS hands down, i ride it daily 100kms and i will vouch for it. The 6th gear really helps and even if you engage the sixth at 30 odd speeds there is no knocking of engine.

                              Regarding servicing, well i feel every manufactures provides sub standard service. Spares can be a bit of problem, but if you have 2-3 service centers within reach you should not have problem, you can also just put a mail through the suzuki website they do respond pretty quickly.

                              On vibrations front none at all even at speeds of 100, and i believe you are not looking at flipping your wrists when lights turn green (GS is a bit slow starter, but a great work horse). If that is the case then i would recommend GS to you for sure, just do the regular servicing i think you should be perfectly fine.

                              Hope that helps

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