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  • #16
    Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

    Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
    When you talk about maintaining etc then it means you are looking for something average on pocket and does your work well financially as well as practically.
    You can't get EVERYTHING IN ONE !

    GO with NS200.

    Buying a 2L bike it self speaks that it's maintenance would be on higher side than others.
    So choose wisely...

    And now India is a growing nation in automobiles, so there will be always a chance of new better bikes with better powers keeps launching in every 2-6 months..
    So it's better you calm your heart and mind, enjoy the present. Less CC better average....
    Honda's are well known for their reliability and trust among all. . . Let me give you a small mine example only, I have a Honda Unicorn, it's been nearly five months since I had left it for servicing, except once oil change I have done nothing to it but still my bike is like butter smooth and there's no rattling or drama from it's side, I did rip it many a times in this period, even took it above it's limits and also did two to three times off-roading as well but the bike shows no sign of pissed off or wanting for service. . . Now give me one example similar to this by a Bajaj, I have seen many pulsars but none can take these much beatings, . . If I forget to change my oil then there will be no problem for at least another 1.5k kms on the odo but let that be Bajaj, you'll start having problems with them. . . That's the difference between quality of both. . .
    [MENTION=47933]kilometerkiller[/MENTION] hope I made it clearer by my example, . . It's best to spend that extra and live happily for many years than to spend less and face issues (be it minor or major). . .
    I can give you a list for NS's pros and cons now,
    Pros:
    1. Advanced pulsar. . .
    2. Has got more features. . .
    3. Good power. . .
    4. Good for street use. . .
    5. Quick. . .
    6. Looks unique (but I think this unique will fade off as there's a rumoured 180 in the making which looks close enough to this big disappointment ). . .
    7. Can cruise in triple digits without much stress but to overcome that you need to make yourself a custom made windshield. . .

    Cons:
    1. Tires sucks. . .
    2. Complains from many whom I know saying that the brake pads wear off too quickly. . .
    3. Minor problems every now and then. . .
    4. Needs regular servicing, miss out some servicing like I did for my Unicorn and there will be a big hole in your pocket. . .
    5. Though the company's mileage is claimed as 58kpl, majority of the people say that they are getting only 35 kpl. . .
    6. Can't match up with Honda's quality still. . .
    7. As I said if you don't have a windshield, be ready to face wind blasts at speeds. . .

    I guess that's enough points now, hope you got it. . .

    PS: My Unicorn's seven years old and 50k on the odo but still when people ride it, they don't believe that my bike has run that much. . .

    Cheers!!!
    Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
    Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
    Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
    Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
    Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

    10 years into riding :D
    Live2Race. . .

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    • #17
      Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

      Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
      Honda's are well known for their reliability and trust among all. . . Let me give you a small mine example only, I have a Honda Unicorn, it's been nearly five months since I had left it for servicing, except once oil change I have done nothing to it but still my bike is like butter smooth and there's no rattling or drama from it's side, I did rip it many a times in this period, even took it above it's limits and also did two to three times off-roading as well but the bike shows no sign of pissed off or wanting for service. . . Now give me one example similar to this by a Bajaj, I have seen many pulsars but none can take these much beatings, . . If I forget to change my oil then there will be no problem for at least another 1.5k kms on the odo but let that be Bajaj, you'll start having problems with them. . . That's the difference between quality of both. . .
      everything needs a price, same is with Honda.
      People pay extra Ks for unicorn as a 150cc where as P150 is less cost then it.
      The difference of cost can be seen while riding the unicorn and P150.

      Now Bajaj is not that behind from any brand today.

      I have a Kawasaki Bajaj Aspire, Yes when kawasaki was with Bajaj.
      it's more than 12yrs old, more than 1L kms run.
      Hardly do any service, I am servicing it in every 6-8 months. Still runs great. Never stops in between. I hardly remember if I have followed the service schedule after 2 yrs owning it.
      Now i use it only on weekends from past 3 yrs.
      So even Bajaj had some good products.

      No words for Honda!! It's a gem !!

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      • #18
        Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

        Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
        everything needs a price, same is with Honda.
        People pay extra Ks for unicorn as a 150cc where as P150 is less cost then it.
        The difference of cost can be seen while riding the unicorn and P150.

        Now Bajaj is not that behind from any brand today.

        I have a Kawasaki Bajaj Aspire, Yes when kawasaki was with Bajaj.
        it's more than 12yrs old, more than 1L kms run.
        Hardly do any service, I am servicing it in every 6-8 months. Still runs great. Never stops in between. I hardly remember if I have followed the service schedule after 2 yrs owning it.
        Now i use it only on weekends from past 3 yrs.
        So even Bajaj had some good products.

        No words for Honda!! It's a gem !!
        Can't speak much as this will keep on going, so it's better that the TS chooses one wisely and brings him that. . .

        PS: I was referring to pulsar not caliber, even my friend dad's caliber runs good till now but that's Kawasaki Bajaj and pulsars are Bajaj. . .

        Cheers!!!
        Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
        Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
        Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
        Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
        Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

        10 years into riding :D
        Live2Race. . .

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        • #19
          Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

          I suggestion for the query poster.. All have been laid down for you in the best possible way by the members.. So now its upto you to go ans check them physically.. Ride them.. And get the bike fast.. Thinking too much is sometimes bad.. You would get confused and take the wrong decission..

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          Ride safe and have fun.
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          Nadeem

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          • #20
            Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

            @somen1984 truly speaking I was also blown away by NS's performance, the first time I got my friend's NS for a ride in a free helipad, I was really amazed by it's performance and power. . . Then the next time I had it to ride for some distance, I liked it very much and thought of considering it for my next bike (which is after CBR150R) and it's still there in my mind. . . I was blown away by his quickness, the sharp braking which I was really amazed to see how from 85-90kph it came until 15-20kph within seconds and with a short distance. . . All these were real good but somewhere something makes me to look at it twice, like the tires, the problems I get to hear sometimes and his frequent visit to the SVC makes me doubt a lot, speaking that way if I have 1.5lac, I would close my eyes and go for a CBR150R rather than spend 1lac for NS cos I believe in long-term use and stress-free bike, every bike is not perfect but it's always better to get something with the one giving least trouble. . . I'm not saying this as a negative point nor to discourage some one from buying this, it's just my opinion, it may take good beatings but how I ride my Unicorn, I don't think it'll match up to my unicorn that way. . . That's it said and that's the reason urging him to go for a CBR so that he'll have a stress free bike for real long time. . .

            Sincerely speaking here, neither 200NS's 23.17BHP nor CBR250R's 25BHP impressed me in anyway, but still I love their performance which they do in their respective classes and I ain't a power hungry guy. . .

            PS: No offense to anyone or any product, I do love NS but it's not my cup of tea as I am a sports bike lover. . .

            Cheers!!!
            Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
            Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
            Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
            Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
            Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

            10 years into riding :D
            Live2Race. . .

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            • #21
              Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

              Originally posted by kilometerkiller View Post
              Your points are well noted. But all I'm hearing is why I should buy CBR. I'd also like to hear more on why I should or shouldn't buy NS. There are not really strong points as to why I shouldn't buy NS.
              Pulsar 200NS is a fairly good bike, nothing against it. But the thing is that you have kept CBR250R in your list of choices, which is certainly a superior machine.

              We all want you to get the best so are focussing on the best out of the lot of your choices which suits your needs... if you had any constrains like budget, we would have suggested you Pulsar 200NS, which is a very sweet bike near one lac.....

              The best thing for you to do is to take a test ride of your choices....take a biker friend along if you can..

              -Valkyrie

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              • #22
                Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                If you do a lot of touring, the CBR is your best bet. Has decent amount of power to munch miles easily. If budget is not a constraint, I would suggest the Ninja 300. I would stay away from the NS if I were you.NS does have the power, but you can't compare it to a CBR in terms of reliability and many other things. Duke 200 is also good, but if you are a tourer, its best to get the CBR. In my opinion dukes are best suited for city riding, yes even the 390 though its a lot more powerful. You would be a much happy tourer on a CBR than a Duke.
                2013 R15(Sold) | 2014 Duke 390 (Sold) | 2022 Adv 390 | 2022 Ninja 300

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                • #23
                  Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                  Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                  Honda's are well known for their reliability and trust among all. . . Let me give you a small mine example only, I have a Honda Unicorn, it's been nearly five months since I had left it for servicing, except once oil change I have done nothing to it but still my bike is like butter smooth and there's no rattling or drama from it's side, I did rip it many a times in this period, even took it above it's limits and also did two to three times off-roading as well but the bike shows no sign of pissed off or wanting for service. . . Now give me one example similar to this by a Bajaj, I have seen many pulsars but none can take these much beatings, . . If I forget to change my oil then there will be no problem for at least another 1.5k kms on the odo but let that be Bajaj, you'll start having problems with them. . . That's the difference between quality of both. . .
                  [MENTION=47933]kilometerkiller[/MENTION] hope I made it clearer by my example, . . It's best to spend that extra and live happily for many years than to spend less and face issues (be it minor or major). . .
                  I can give you a list for NS's pros and cons now,
                  Pros:
                  1. Advanced pulsar. . .
                  2. Has got more features. . .
                  3. Good power. . .
                  4. Good for street use. . .
                  5. Quick. . .
                  6. Looks unique (but I think this unique will fade off as there's a rumoured 180 in the making which looks close enough to this big disappointment ). . .
                  7. Can cruise in triple digits without much stress but to overcome that you need to make yourself a custom made windshield. . .

                  Cons:
                  1. Tires sucks. . .
                  2. Complains from many whom I know saying that the brake pads wear off too quickly. . .
                  3. Minor problems every now and then. . .
                  4. Needs regular servicing, miss out some servicing like I did for my Unicorn and there will be a big hole in your pocket. . .
                  5. Though the company's mileage is claimed as 58kpl, majority of the people say that they are getting only 35 kpl. . .
                  6. Can't match up with Honda's quality still. . .
                  7. As I said if you don't have a windshield, be ready to face wind blasts at speeds. . .

                  I guess that's enough points now, hope you got it. . .

                  PS: My Unicorn's seven years old and 50k on the odo but still when people ride it, they don't believe that my bike has run that much. . .

                  Cheers!!!
                  Sir you're in Great impression of old gen pulsars, have you ridden or maintained a p200's for some time...? I guess no..p200's quality is way more advanced than old pulsar brands and being lower than 1 lac, it is a total vfm, FYI I just brought a r15 blue edition at have ridden it 70km and believe me,the plastic parts quality and paint,is lower than 200ns...only engine clutch quality is little more than ns but again cheap price of bike as well as parts ( way ultra cheap than Honda's let alone Yamaha) is awesome

                  200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power..!!

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                  • #24
                    Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                    And my suggestion to the one asking question...
                    If you LOOOOVE fairing bikes and have 2 lac to spend without a thought cbr is what you need ( I believe cbr is way better than ns but then again for almost double the price of ns, it just doesn't justifies itself...
                    And if you wanna enjoy head to head with cbr, duke(up to a limit LoL) And still wanna save cash like hell, p200's is the beat you cam get,and if you doubt clutch,engine quality,then assuming your pulsar parts go kaput in 4 years,still if you change them,it won't cost as much as total the value of cbr. ..


                    FINAL VERDICT money saving with almost same feel Ns
                    fairing lover with manageable expenditure of 2 lac cbr

                    200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power..!!

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                    • #25
                      Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                      Originally posted by Anuj_Gupta View Post
                      Sir you're in Great impression of old gen pulsars, have you ridden or maintained a p200's for some time...? I guess no..p200's quality is way more advanced than old pulsar brands and being lower than 1 lac, it is a total vfm, FYI I just brought a r15 blue edition at have ridden it 70km and believe me,the plastic parts quality and paint,is lower than 200ns...only engine clutch quality is little more than ns but again cheap price of bike as well as parts ( way ultra cheap than Honda's let alone Yamaha) is awesome

                      200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power..!!
                      guess you directly jumped from that comment and started to speak out, have a look at my last comment, you'll know. . . I am also kinda bike freak or bike reviewer you can say, I have seen, ridden, been seeing for some time and on that basis, I gave him the suggestion. . . Please refer to my last comment before commenting further I have made it much more clearer there . . . Please, you can call me Rakesh and not sir, that'd be good. . . BTW what is the other thing you said quality of paint and plastics is poorer than NS ??? Guess you got the wrong bike, shoot a mail to Yamaha and they'll fix the problem. . . As I said before, Bajaj have done a great job and are ahead in the competition but still can't keep up with Honda, they still have to work more. . . BTW 2lacs definitely is a price worth for it, as I have previously mentioned this as well, you don't pay 2lac just for fairing but for Honda's Fi, prolink monosuspension, wider tires, better looker, fairing, quality and most importantly a heart of gold, yes I am speaking about HONDA'S ENGINE here , that's what differs NS from CBR. . . Please refer to my previous comments as well before posting anything further. . .

                      Cheers!!!
                      Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
                      Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
                      Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
                      Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
                      Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

                      10 years into riding :D
                      Live2Race. . .

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                      • #26
                        Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                        Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                        guess you directly jumped from that comment and started to speak out, have a look at my last comment, you'll know. . . I am also kinda bike freak or bike reviewer you can say, I have seen, ridden, been seeing for some time and on that basis, I gave him the suggestion. . . Please refer to my last comment before commenting further I have made it much more clearer there . . . Please, you can call me Rakesh and not sir, that'd be good. . . BTW what is the other thing you said quality of paint and plastics is poorer than NS ??? Guess you got the wrong bike, shoot a mail to Yamaha and they'll fix the problem. . . As I said before, Bajaj have done a great job and are ahead in the competition but still can't keep up with Honda, they still have to work more. . . BTW 2lacs definitely is a price worth for it, as I have previously mentioned this as well, you don't pay 2lac just for fairing but for Honda's Fi, prolink monosuspension, wider tires, better looker, fairing, quality and most importantly a heart of gold, yes I am speaking about HONDA'S ENGINE here , that's what differs NS from CBR. . . Please refer to my previous comments as well before posting anything further. . .

                        Cheers!!!
                        The paint quality of rear mud guard system,the handle assbly( black painted) not the body paint,body paint is awesome, and I don't think after what bajaj gave in 95k,cbr qualities justifies on price basis

                        200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power..!!

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                        • #27
                          Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                          I think the questionnaire should now open his cards ..,

                          ##My twin Girlfriends- > 200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power and 150cc blue edition fairing style v2..!!##

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                          • #28
                            Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                            Originally posted by Anuj_Gupta View Post
                            The paint quality of rear mud guard system,the handle assbly( black painted) not the body paint,body paint is awesome, and I don't think after what bajaj gave in 95k,cbr qualities justifies on price basis

                            200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power..!!
                            R15 has a mudguard, are you sure you are speaking about R15V2 . . .? I don't remember seeing any R15v2 with a mudguard as of now. . . About the handlebar paint, let me help you here, it's not the paint that will go off soon, it's the key chain you use that makes the paint to go off quickly. . . The paint in the handlebar is great too but when you use some metallic key chain, it rubs itself to the handlebars causing the paint to erode quickly and then you'll say the paint is gone but the real culprit is the metallic key chain that you use. . . Other than that you won't get the paint eroded so quickly, unless if someone scratches or you scratch it somewhere by mistake. . . Best use some key chain which is made of rubber. . . One of my friend also had this problem and after I suggested him to change it, he doesn't see that paint going away. . . Speaking about instant power, any company can give it, Ex: You have seen drag bikes right, how are they? Awesome. How do they run? Very fast. Who can win a drag race with them? None, okay, now come to these points, how long will they last? Can't say, how much are they reliable? Nil, how many kilometers can they cover up with the same speed? No answer. . . This is all I can say for power hungry people but the quality, the durability and overall performance matters. . . I'm not referring here to pulsar just giving an example for your 23.5PS of Raw Power , which too failed to impress me . . .

                            Anymore doubts about it, you are surely welcome to ask . . .

                            PS: I know only one thing that v2 comes with just a hugger and the hugger is made of plastic, I don't see any paint work there (someone correct me if I am wrong here), other than that there is no rear mudguard or mudguard system. . .

                            Cheers!!!
                            Last edited by Rakesh Rok; 11-02-2013, 07:04 PM. Reason: extra points. . .
                            Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
                            Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
                            Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
                            Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
                            Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

                            10 years into riding :D
                            Live2Race. . .

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                            • #29
                              Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              R15 has a mudguard, are you sure you are speaking about R15V2 . . .? I don't remember seeing any R15v2 with a mudguard as of now. . . About the handlebar paint, let me help you here, it's not the paint that will go off soon, it's the key chain you use that makes the paint to go off quickly. . . The paint in the handlebar is great too but when you use some metallic key chain, it rubs itself to the handlebars causing the paint to erode quickly and then you'll say the paint is gone but the real culprit is the metallic key chain that you use. . . Other than that you won't get the paint eroded so quickly, unless if someone scratches or you scratch it somewhere by mistake. . . Best use some key chain which is made of rubber. . . One of my friend also had this problem and after I suggested him to change it, he doesn't see that paint going away. . . Speaking about instant power, any company can give it, Ex: You have seen drag bikes right, how are they? Awesome. How do they run? Very fast. Who can win a drag race with them? None, okay, now come to these points, how long will they last? Can't say, how much are they reliable? Nil, how many kilometers can they cover up with the same speed? No answer. . . This is all I can say for power hungry people but the quality, the durability and overall performance matters. . . I'm not referring here to pulsar just giving an example for your 23.5PS of Raw Power , which too failed to impress me . . .

                              Anymore doubts about it, you are surely welcome to ask . . .

                              PS: I know only one thing that v2 comes with just a hugger and the hugger is made of plastic, I don't see any paint work there (someone correct me if I am wrong here), other than that there is no rear mudguard or mudguard system. . .

                              Cheers!!!
                              Yes that hugger ( it's painted black)or The whole plastic covering above the rear tyre, I was referring to that as mud guard assembly( it's basically to guard from mud right)
                              Mine is just 28hours old .so I'm bot talking about marks by key chain ,but as comparing the black paint on handle bars and plastic assembly to that of ns, I found ns handle bar and plastic paint( blacl) more perfect and good( I'm surprised too)
                              And that's my signature buddy 23.5 bhp one,I didn't wrote it down specifically. And changed my signature now to add v2,these are my thoughts as I think there aren't many guys who own a ns and v2 simultaneously so if I had spent 1.27lac why do you think I will enjoy talking about its demerits, I was solely comparing it to ns and frankly wrote about things I liked in ns
                              My twin Girlfriends- > 200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power and 150cc blue edition fairing style v2..!!

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                              • #30
                                Re: In search of peace! Help me!!

                                At last from my ownership of both yzf v2 and ns, r15 is only for tashanbaazi purposes, and to feel true biking power ,it's the work of Ns

                                My twin Girlfriends- > 200cc sized 23.5 bump of raw power and 150cc blue edition fairing style v2..!!

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