Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

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1. I haven't seen Hero making a blunder so far. They make strange looking products sometimes, granted, but I never saw reliability being heavily compromised. At most, there can be a lesser reliable version of another engine, like Hunk/ Xtreme, that's it. If your mind is set on the newer Karizma, take a test ride first of all.

2. I'm also 6' 1" and the KTM Duke 390 is comfortable enough for me. Not to mention, now I'm an ageing biker, almost on my 28th birthday.
But it doesn't "excel" in comfort... The seat is slightly hard & riding position "slightly" sporty. Get that clear. And the pillion is even more uncomfortable, almost on a death wish, I would say.

Comparatively, Duke 200 has a slightly aggressive handlebar, but nothing one can't replace or tolerate.
Duke 200 is one of the best Indian performance bikes for the city, although its undergearing nature is ok-ok on the highways.

Again a test ride would do great.

3. ZMR is essentially Karizma with some goodies added on, like Fuel injection, Fairing, etc. Sadly, it adds a little weight too, compared to Karizma.
If you're into serious touring, or high speed riding where the fairing will prove effective... or if you need the looks, then go for it.
Remember, to most eyes, the new Karizma ZMR looks very very odd. So think before you buy. Its otherwise good though.

4. It won't be too fast on the highways too. FZ feels feebly underpowered compared to other bikes you mentioned. If you're ok with a 150cc bike (153 actually), then go ahead with FZ.


See, we can't make you feel a bike, so you need test rides of some bikes I mentioned above.

Still, seeing your needs, I would suggest CBR 250R... If you define 25~ bhp, as "power when you need it".


A mix of RX and Karizma would be hard to come by, but still:
CBR 250 is quite close to a Karizma by nature...
and Duke 200 is quite close to an RX100, although Duke is a modern version in terms of chassis, engine, brakes, etc.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

Budget is 150000
You won't get a cbr250 in that ,and cbr 150 is literally #%#%#.
So ,the preference should be .
If you love power,and naked is good for you.
1. Duke200.
2. 200ns.
If you're a poser, power is a thing of talks only.
1. R15
2. Karizma .
Regarding height ,I think 200ns is the tallest of all ,so it'll accompany you good.still you can ride other bike's also.
EDIT, since you said r15 is a no.
So final preference order should be.
1. Duke200.
2. P200ns.
3. Karizma.
That's it .Now just test drive em and don't go looking for any other bike.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

Close your eyes and go for 200ns dude.

Reasons:
1. Tall enough for you
2. Great Handling in Traffic
3. Comfy on Highways
4. Power is just a twist away
5. Engine has a refined smooth grunt that gives you the feel of power.

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I would prefer the Duke 200 over the Pulsar 200 NS except for comfort.You could wait for the TVS Draken X21 250 which will be launched Jan 2015.

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Yes ,but it's also 50000₹ more than 200ns, which in my opinion, isn't vfm. Instead of buying 200 ,he should get 390 .its the most vfm package.
And tvs. .? Dude ,if someone's spending more than a lakh, I personally believe, right now it shouldn't be on tvs. Thier RTR converts your milk into milkshake, soo much of vibes from here and there (I've ridden the latest one ) .
So instead of betting on some out of the blue product ,get something reliable.
#above comment is a personal opinion of the user.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

1 Thanks a lot for the pointers ! I am going to ride it alone so I don't mind a uncomfortable pillion seat. I am taking a test ride of the new karizma R today, so lets see how much R can impress.
2 CBR 250 is my last resort. I will extend my budget if feel the need to.
3 I took a test ride of Fz and I was not very comfortable riding it. Though it feels good to ride and easy to handle in traffic. I will consider lowering my comfort needs !

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Thanks! I think I will short list this 3 bikes. I really don't mind compromising on looks! But I have not come across any user reviews of the new karizma R!

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

Visit karizma 2014 thread for user reviews .but let me tell you ,2014 karizma is a disappointment as compared to older gem karizmas.
I will suggest to buy 200ns. If you're thinking to spend 1lac and duke200 if you don't mind paying 1.5 .
Difference between duke200 and 200ns is same as between iphone 6+ and 6. Former is bigger ,performs better but later costs good and performs all functions of 6+ .

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

If you are OK with the Looks of Karizma, go for it. Else if you prefer Naked, go for P200NS without a second thought. At 150K, Duke 200 is also a great option. Test ride and decide.
I strictly wont advice you CBR150.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

Well, they are a dissapointed when it comes to the refinement comparatively. But, it still is refined nonetheless.
TS, you could view the ownership thread and look at the discussions going on rite now. You would get an idea. I would say go with zmr, because its got FI. Simple. Great fuel efficiency of 43-45kmpl in city and 48-50+ on highways. You could verify the same in the ownership thread. Also the new zmr looks better than karizma. It's got a hell lot of power now too. Pulls with uniform torque..
But, if you have a cbr 250 in mind and mileage is not your concern, and if you can stretch your budget, go for it..

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1. FI is not a thing to decide for bikes .carb has proven well and will be proving itself in later years. Fi is a good addiction and but compromising on power for fi doesn't seem well.
2. About karizma, it dies after 115kmph. While other two choices ,duke and ns, effortlessly touch 130. Ns Is fastest of them all as duke is engine restricted,otherwise it would've shown a great show.
For speeds until 120 ,trust me wind blast doesn't matter if you have a stable build and a good helmet ,but if youre on the lower side of BMI, you may need a windshield.
3. Looks are subjective, karizma is outrightly termed as strange design(more of dislike) ,200ns rear is also not liked ,whereas duke impresses in its unique orange outfit. It all boils down to your liking.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !



1: FI is and will be always a critera for selecting a bike because of reasons which have high impact on a bike's performance. You may seek power but there are people who have a desire for mileage.
It's got crisp throttle response.
Increases reliability by a huge margin. Why? It adjusts the afr such that it is suitable for the engine.
No cold start problems. No nuisance.
Of all the debates I've seen, its always the FI that is prefered. Why else would companies prefer going FI over carb, though it means increase in costs? Of not now, then, going by the trends, within few years, almost all bikes may have fi. That's the situation with cars rite now.
FI is not the only criteria fine. But its advantages cannot be ignored either. If there are criteras for selecting a bike, then, for me, FI comes first..
2: The new karizma doesn't "die" after 115. Had you made that statement in the ownership thread, you would have got replies worth suiting your statement. Hold on. Is that difference in top end even worth a thought for selecting a bike? Tell me. Do you go racing at triple digits when you are commuting or touring? You need good torque for commuting which the karizma has ample of. You need reliability to do 110 for long hours which the karizma has proved and so have many other. But, do you go at 130-140 on indian roads when you are touring? Top speed has to be a criteria for racers. For what the TS has mentioned, i think that's an absolute bullshit critera to talk about. You need touring, talk of comfort and reliability to do 100-110 for long hours. Not freaking top speeds!
3: Agree to that point. Since it is subjective, i felt zmr was better looking than duke or karizma and told the same...

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Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

The karizma/zmr does not die at 115. my 3 old zma with 44,000kms top's out at 130 on the speedo. the bike doesn't rev above 8000, as it's a long stroke curiser.
the karizma is for those who love the power delivery in mid, low rev's.

people wanted more power from the karizma, hero ebr has tuned the engine so the twins are more powerful and it;s faster too. there is no bike in the 200cc segment that offers mileage as ZMR does.

the newer karizma feesl powerful and it's fast enough for indian roads. if you have doubts regarding mileage, visit the ownership thread and for top speed( bike dying at 115) took at look a video by juan in you tube, you will notice the speedo climb faster.

going by your requirements, My suggestion are

option 1. karizma zmr
option 2. pulsar 200ns
option 3. Karizma r/p220.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

[MENTION=45570]pravinan[/MENTION] dude old k is a gem ,it goes to 130 with fun.
I was talking about new karizma. Don't believe me ..? Visit thread.

Re: which Bike to buy for tall(6.1) me - perfomance and comfort !

Karizma dying out at 115 kmph? LoL.. so are the people working in Hero fools to claim 127 kmph top speed?? Technically speaking, the person has to decide what he wants. The rider on saddle of Karizma twins can ride 24hrs straight without having to worry about backpain and can cruise at 100-110 kmph without habing to be scared of blowing up the piston.. reliability of the Karizma is known to everyone in India.

I dont understand why people talk about top speed every time even though they very well know they cannot ride a bike at 140 kmph on our great Indian roads.. speaking about top speed, the speeds indicated on the ZMR is almost error free.. the FI is the greatest advantage.. take a carb'd bike to freezing temperatures.. let it rest there for an hour and try to start the bike.. you will know the difference..

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