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  • #46
    Re: Go Retro or Stay Modern , That is the Question ? ( RE Conti GT Cafe Racer vs KTM RC 390 )

    Originally posted by Ajeet Padhi View Post
    Hello fellow Xbhpians ,

    I have been an avid follower of Xbhp and Team Bhp for some years now , been visiting forums as a guest in my quest to gain vital knowledge and statistics on our automotive decisions in life . But now , I'm in a dilema that can only be solved and settled with the collaboration of a magnitude of petrolheads and their ignited minds


    Thanks and Regards to you all
    I hope this post is acceptable by Xbhp forums standard , it is my first post as well .
    Please be kind and rewind

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    The KTM and the RE are so different from each other that they can barely be compared. Yes they both have an engine between the two wheels and... er... okay i have run out of similarities between them

    What am trying to say is, you need to figure out what kind of riding you like to do. Then choose the bike which suits such requirements.

    Cheers and all the best.
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    • #47
      Last edited by Kaushik Iyer; 07-13-2015, 05:33 PM.
      Ride your Heart out!!!

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      • #48
        Re: Go Retro or Stay Modern , That is the Question ? ( RE Conti GT Cafe Racer vs KTM RC 390 )

        Originally posted by The Monk View Post
        Similar queries Approved and Merged

        The KTM and the RE are so different from each other that they can barely be compared. Yes they both have an engine between the two wheels and... er... okay i have run out of similarities between them

        What am trying to say is, you need to figure out what kind of riding you like to do. Then choose the bike which suits such requirements.

        Cheers and all the best.
        Totally agreed !
        To be honest , I would buy them both , only if I had the money Full faired bikes and Cafe Racers/Bobbers have the most warm , deepest and reddish spot of my heart reserved for them only , especially if they are Italian .

        The bike will be used mostly for short city rides to some intercity commutes . Cram in some long rides for the weekend or the occasional track day ( if I get the KTM ) . They are both different bikes and have a totally different feel to them and I respect that and that's why I love them .

        A test ride would have helped me on the RC390 as they Noida showroom guy was pretty sure that No KTM RCs are given test rides on ( not true ) . The RE GT was a fun to ride bike , though the lack of power/speed might be an issue to some , I believe the bike is pretty good for what it is made to do and that is ride for the sheer pleasure of the ride , it's not a race , take your time on the road , soak it all in .
        The KTM , we all know what is it made to do and only a track will justify that beast . If I get it , I intend to take it to the Buddh International every now and then , by making an excuse of college , which happens to be in Greater Noida too

        ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

        I'm a bit of both , err , just not the music one though . I love my Pink Floyd collection and totally despise the modern "pop" music or the so called new age " music " so gloriously "composed" by the " music idols / prodigees of the new age " .

        But if you put aside all the specifications , statistics and nifty features of these two lovely beasts and not compare them , for they cannot be even looked under the same light . These two are currently The Best Value For Money bikes available in the Indian market in an kind of affordable prices , in every way possible . Gone are the days of ogling at Japanese and Italian imports which cost as much as buying a car , maybe even a few .

        These two are totally different bikes with a different calling , which I intend to serve and uphold . I want to have the bike which I believe will be less of a hassle to maintain , has better customer service and reputation , is the more value packed deal for the longer run . I really dont intend on selling the bike as currently there is no bike in the garage Only Cars

        I hope now you feel the need , the craving and the fire and desire to own a bike , and not just any bike
        And then the lord said "Let there be Bike": And there was bike
        And the lord saw the bike, and it was Goooood!

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        • #49
          Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

          These two are totally different bikes with a different calling , which I intend to serve and uphold . I want to have the bike which I believe will be less of a hassle to maintain , has better customer service and reputation , is the more value packed deal for the longer run

          Now this has a few parts which essentially may/not be hand-in-hand. I honestly have not had any issues in maintaining my GT it's run 4k+ till now in 6months (not much but then I have a Palio 1.6 and quite a few bicycles so...) anyway... infact on I even got a tank replaced coz someone had nicked a bit of paint by a kite a day before delivery & RE guys happily replaced it in 20days of time. Atleast for me I've not had any of those horror stories yet of what I was warned for. But compare that to Bajaj I'm sure its a bit ahead on those terms by a fair margin but again I've never got a Bajaj in my life but that's a general perception & I've seen a few horrors of it's own thru a friend. But these things are highly personal in my belief, some you get good some you don't.

          the last part of your quote.......... {is the more value packed deal for the longer run} - this, Now only one of these two bikes actually fits this bill & you know deep down which one!!! .
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          • #50
            Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

            Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post
            Now this has a few parts which essentially may/not be hand-in-hand. I honestly have not had any issues in maintaining my GT it's run 4k+ till now in 6months (not much but then I have a Palio 1.6 and quite a few bicycles so...) anyway... infact on I even got a tank replaced coz someone had nicked a bit of paint by a kite a day before delivery & RE guys happily replaced it in 20days of time. Atleast for me I've not had any of those horror stories yet of what I was warned for. But compare that to Bajaj I'm sure its a bit ahead on those terms by a fair margin but again I've never got a Bajaj in my life but that's a general perception & I've seen a few horrors of it's own thru a friend. But these things are highly personal in my belief, some you get good some you don't.

            the last part of your quote.......... {is the more value packed deal for the longer run} - this, Now only one of these two bikes actually fits this bill & you know deep down which one!!! .

            I know , I know ... In our hearts we all know ;-)

            Dayum , a nick the day before delivery , good thing it got replaced ( obviously )

            Bajaj had its share of good ol days and then some , the newer bikes are way too plasticky . And then they annouce 400 cc middleweights , only to cut it down to 200cc
            And then the lord said "Let there be Bike": And there was bike
            And the lord saw the bike, and it was Goooood!

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            • #51
              Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

              Originally posted by drive_angry View Post
              Haha.. When it comes down to these two bikes.. A man cannot be greedy enough..[emoji111]️[emoji111]

              About your trip... 500 Kms at a stretch? Were there any pain in arms, wrists, back and butt?

              I agree with the comment on D390 on being the best bike in its segment.. I don't even care about the heating problem (2015 D390 claims to have the problem rectified) and chain issues ( breaks down frequently) and the cracking of rims on high speed on potholes, it's something you can live up considering the positives of the bike.

              I think I am gonna go for test drive for D390.. In Ambala, Haryana (40-45 Kms) as there is only one showroom in Chandigarh [emoji22] and they don't provide test drives [emoji35]


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              I didnt have any back pain, because i own a CBR 250, and am quite used to the forward lean position. However, it did take me some time to get used to the forward lean during my initial phase with the baby Ceeber. The seat of the CGT is an altogether different issue! I did not find the cushioning adequate to accommodate my ample bottom, and often had the plastic butting into my butt! However this is only a personal opinion as i'm on the heavier side of things!

              My friend owns a D390, and we've been on multiple road trips, exchanging bikes in between. I love the vehicle for the sheer power it delivers, however head winds are a bit of a bother on the highways, and drafting/tailgating one another is a big no no, as the turbulent wind from the vehicle in front literally tries to push the 390 away. Other than that, i have not come across any alloy breaking or chain breaking issues. The heat is not present in open highways, but is felt in stop and go traffic. The riding position is also comfy, and not much to complain about. The pillion's a whole different story though.

              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

              Has anyone weighed the Benelli 300 to the D390 or the CGT? I saw one on the road, and the exhaust note was bliss! I actually kept following the guy just to hear the sound!

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              • #52
                Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

                I too never had issues with seating on the GT even though I had a Unicorn earlier coz I'm a Road-Cyclist and all my bicycles are of that kind. But initially I used to be frustrated with the GT in traffic!!! coz unlike my unicorn I couldn't maneuver it around in standstill traffic, but I've since become very relaxed & actually drive it like it's a car & don't bother steering thru gaps in the traffic & life is better since then . And yes the GT has a big turning radius because of it's sheer weight you cannot lean it into traffic gaps & make tight cutting turns in traffic where a lot of 100cc bikes will easily cut thru.
                Ride your Heart out!!!

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                • #53
                  Re: Go Retro or Stay Modern , That is the Question ? ( RE Conti GT Cafe Racer vs KTM RC 390 )

                  Originally posted by Ajeet Padhi View Post
                  Hello fellow Xbhpians ,

                  I have been an avid follower of Xbhp and Team Bhp for some years now , been visiting forums as a guest in my quest to gain vital knowledge and statistics on our automotive decisions in life . But now , I'm in a dilema that can only be solved and settled with the collaboration of a magnitude of petrolheads and their ignited minds

                  Before I continue any further , let me put down some details about me and my situation . I'm a light built 5'9" guy , age 26 and weigh approx 70kgs ( Im skinny ) and my elder brother is of the same physical build but of 32 years of age . We live in Noida ( Delhi NCR ) and most of our commutes are City based and some trips to Delhi / Gurgaon / Dwarka , depending on work / family requirements . I happen to be a student at a college in Greater Noida ( which must not be named ) and my everyday tripmeter reads 80-90 kms minimum , on some days with friends making some plans it ends up at 120-150kms .

                  Currently , we both are using cars as the traffic and weather conditions multiplied with the concerns of Indian Parents on the safety of motobikes has not allowed us to purchase any decent motorbike in the recent years . Last such decision was made 3 years back , we wanted the Yamaha R15 v2.0 , but had to buy the Maruti Suzuki Swift Diesel to satisfy the hearts and minds of parents and relatives

                  This time , things are different ( rubbing hands ) , with the constant need for more land for us humans to consume , we are running low on parking spaces and space on the roads too , thanks to the surplus Indian population with the motto of " Hum Do , Humare Do ... Dozen "

                  The time has come to buy a bike . And currently there are only 2 contenders that seem to woo me and my brother in each and every way possible .

                  #1 : The Royal Enfield Continental GT Cafe Racer

                  #2 : The KTM RC 390

                  Now , as Dom Toretto and Brian O'Connor would argue over in the Fast n Furious series whether Muscle is better or Tuner , me and my brother are stuck in a similar dilema , for we love them both ( the bikes , duh )

                  The only major concern would be practicality , ease of rideability , build quality , customer relations and service of the brand and the pleasure of riding the machine . The resale value is something we dont care much about , but would be a good thing to tell our father about , or in case we plan on selling the bike after a decade which I dont reckon or plan on to , but then , Life is never a certain thing .

                  An important thing I would like to keep in mind is my return to biking after a long period of time and with quite less experience too . I have ridden a ton of scooters , mopeds and activas , a bike with the modern 1 down 5 up gearbox is something I havent spent much time on . So there will be the obvious need for me to spend a week or two just getting to know the machine down to the bone and at very low speeds , inside my locality .
                  I test rode the RE Continental GT Cafe Racer few days ago , I loved the feel of the engine ... hated the steering , it was a tad too heavy for me and was a pain on the palms and the wrists . But I reckon a slight adjustment of the clip on handlebars would do the trick .

                  Right now the main point of the arguement would be weight of the bike as it is not something you can control like the power of a bike by the twist of the wrist , but it is alike any other aspect of any vehicle . You develop a hang of it in due time spent knowing the machine that you loathe .

                  Thanks and Regards to you all
                  I hope this post is acceptable by Xbhp forums standard , it is my first post as well .
                  Please be kind and rewind
                  Hey Brother,

                  I may not be techie as most of the brothers here are but let me tell you something that from experience from past 1 year ( 4 cancelled enfield deliveries) searching and reading about these bikes that I believe I can easily summarize for you.( though I myself couldn't decide which to chose [emoji1][emoji1] still I think I can help you well)

                  You buy CGT

                  1) for the ever growing cult. I.e. Brand name
                  2) for its retro looks and feel.
                  3) if you are a sound hog. Yes I said it. [emoji111]️ I personally believe this is the best thumper in the market and with the hitchcocks/carpy's exhaust put into it and you just cannot revving.
                  4) you don't mind tinkering with the bike here and then.
                  5) you are going to use this bike for weekend get away and shirt rides. I too live in GGN and trust me bro, it's not maneuverable in heavy traffic. And it weighs around 185kg weight so be ready for that as well.
                  6) personally I fell it would be a lot difficult for a person to adjust who is overweight because in CGT you sit in crouched position and it's the wrists and shoulders who takes the toll.
                  5) you do have optional pillion seat but I think that it just spoils the look of the bike.
                  6) for a good braking confidence (even without ABS) and though piaoli shocks are on the stiffer side but the swallow potholes easily ( we have to thank weight of the bike as well)
                  7) it's is defiantly a head turner and you will get lot of admiration of the beauty.
                  8) for a decent package.. I mean mean twin cradle frame by Harris performance, brembo brakes, twin piaoli shocks, xenophya design, custom fit seats. It's a best RE in production

                  To sum up.. It's a beautiful bike, if you are looking for a bike that easily connects to the world around you with a little concern about the performance and how much speed you are doing then this is the bike for you.

                  You buy Duke390

                  1) for the world class features packed in a such a small bike.
                  2) for the lovely orange shade. Trellis frame and all that decals.
                  3) you are a power hog. It's a single cylinder 373CC engine and the power it delivers is so ferocious that it changes the very definition of speed.
                  4) for good braking ( yes it has an optional ABS as standard)
                  5) unlike CGT, you sit in more upright position with no pressure on tailbone. Thought seats feels like sitting on a wooden plan but it can be changes with an aftermarket option.
                  6) Did I tell you about it midrange power? [emoji4]

                  To sum up, you buy duke 390. You want performance from a bike and takes you 0-60 in 2.2 seconds and 0-100 in 5.7 seconds with bike whose persona is so aggressive that you lol be the 'Hooligan' of the road.

                  Hope this helps! Good luck on your decision.[emoji111]️[emoji111]


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                  • #54
                    Continental GT or Bullet 500?

                    So my test ride which was scheduled on Monday but it didn't happen because KTM has decided not to do so till further notice.. Wait whaaaa? Who does that these days? Whom shall I contact with to confirm if it is really genuine?

                    I even called up Ambala KTM, same reason from the store manager. Any help guys?

                    All I want is a simple (but long) test drive [emoji20][emoji20]


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                    • #55
                      Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

                      Originally posted by drive_angry View Post
                      So my test ride which was scheduled on Monday but it didn't happen because KTM has decided not to do so till further notice.. Wait whaaaa? Who does that these days? Whom shall I contact with to confirm if it is really genuine?

                      I even called up Ambala KTM, same reason from the store manager. Any help guys?

                      All I want is a simple (but long) test drive [emoji20][emoji20]


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                      We've been having the same issue here in Chennai. At least with the KLN dealership. An inside source says that the KLN chain is under review by the RTO as they'd delivered a bike to two minors, without registration or having checked if the boys have valid licences (the bikes were registered to the kids' dads names). Unfortunately both these boys passed away in a crash hardly a few days after delivery. KLN had issues getting bikes registered even. My AS200 was registered a month after purchase. I don't know if this is the real reason, but I probed them a lot over the past month and made their life a living hell. This was the reason I got from one of the people in the RTO.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Go Retro or Stay Modern , That is the Question ? ( RE Conti GT Cafe Racer vs KTM RC 390 )

                        Originally posted by drive_angry View Post
                        Hey Brother,

                        I may not be techie as most of the brothers here are but let me tell you something that from experience from past 1 year ( 4 cancelled enfield deliveries) searching and reading about these bikes that I believe I can easily summarize for you.( though I myself couldn't decide which to chose [emoji1][emoji1] still I think I can help you well)

                        You buy CGT

                        1) for the ever growing cult. I.e. Brand name
                        2) for its retro looks and feel.
                        3) if you are a sound hog. Yes I said it. [emoji111]️ I personally believe this is the best thumper in the market and with the hitchcocks/carpy's exhaust put into it and you just cannot revving.
                        4) you don't mind tinkering with the bike here and then.
                        5) you are going to use this bike for weekend get away and shirt rides. I too live in GGN and trust me bro, it's not maneuverable in heavy traffic. And it weighs around 185kg weight so be ready for that as well.
                        6) personally I fell it would be a lot difficult for a person to adjust who is overweight because in CGT you sit in crouched position and it's the wrists and shoulders who takes the toll.
                        5) you do have optional pillion seat but I think that it just spoils the look of the bike.
                        6) for a good braking confidence (even without ABS) and though piaoli shocks are on the stiffer side but the swallow potholes easily ( we have to thank weight of the bike as well)
                        7) it's is defiantly a head turner and you will get lot of admiration of the beauty.
                        8) for a decent package.. I mean mean twin cradle frame by Harris performance, brembo brakes, twin piaoli shocks, xenophya design, custom fit seats. It's a best RE in production

                        To sum up.. It's a beautiful bike, if you are looking for a bike that easily connects to the world around you with a little concern about the performance and how much speed you are doing then this is the bike for you.

                        You buy Duke390

                        1) for the world class features packed in a such a small bike.
                        2) for the lovely orange shade. Trellis frame and all that decals.
                        3) you are a power hog. It's a single cylinder 373CC engine and the power it delivers is so ferocious that it changes the very definition of speed.
                        4) for good braking ( yes it has an optional ABS as standard)
                        5) unlike CGT, you sit in more upright position with no pressure on tailbone. Thought seats feels like sitting on a wooden plan but it can be changes with an aftermarket option.
                        6) Did I tell you about it midrange power? [emoji4]

                        To sum up, you buy duke 390. You want performance from a bike and takes you 0-60 in 2.2 seconds and 0-100 in 5.7 seconds with bike whose persona is so aggressive that you lol be the 'Hooligan' of the road.

                        Hope this helps! Good luck on your decision.[emoji111]️[emoji111]


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                        Not the Duke 390 amigo , but the RC 390

                        But yeah , they aren't much different , coming from the same stable and same amount of horses .

                        I'm leaning more towards the KTM now , as it seems more practical due to lighter weight , better headlight illumination ( very important for a country like ours ) , ABS ( which can be turned off ) and 17 inch wheel as opposed to RE Continental GT's 18 inch wheels which will make buying tyres very frustrating .

                        The RE Continental GT still has my respect , awe and that special place in my heart though , so does the KTM .... what can I say , LOVELY Bikes !
                        And then the lord said "Let there be Bike": And there was bike
                        And the lord saw the bike, and it was Goooood!

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                        • #57
                          Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

                          ktm 390 duke/rc twins are too much bike for money in India as of now...
                          RE CGT is too much bike for the heart.

                          long trips duke 390 , street madness and short burst rc390
                          "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

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                          • #58
                            Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

                            Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                            ktm 390 duke/rc twins are too much bike for money in India as of now...
                            RE CGT is too much bike for the heart.

                            long trips duke 390 , street madness and short burst rc390
                            Short, crisp and to the point.. Well said brother!


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                            • #59
                              Re: Go Retro or Stay Modern , That is the Question ? ( RE Conti GT Cafe Racer vs KTM RC 390 )

                              Originally posted by Ajeet Padhi View Post
                              Not the Duke 390 amigo , but the RC 390

                              But yeah , they aren't much different , coming from the same stable and same amount of horses .

                              I'm leaning more towards the KTM now , as it seems more practical due to lighter weight , better headlight illumination ( very important for a country like ours ) , ABS ( which can be turned off ) and 17 inch wheel as opposed to RE Continental GT's 18 inch wheels which will make buying tyres very frustrating .

                              The RE Continental GT still has my respect , awe and that special place in my heart though , so does the KTM .... what can I say , LOVELY Bikes !
                              Though from the engine perspective it may be same but riding position and ergos are completely different ball game.

                              On RC 390 you sit in a more aggressive position, just like the CGT, most of the weight are on wrists and shoulders when on the bike, Though not at all times similarly with a pillion rider it's a complete no no on RC 390 because on braking its your wrists who will bear the weight of the pillion as well...additionally, your fairing might scrape on speed bumps (which are abundant in GGN/Noida). In my opinion with RC, short travels are pure fun but on the longer rides and in heavy traffic one might feel uncomfortable.

                              On the other hand, rider on a mighty duke, rider sits in the upright position, means there is no weight on the tailbone, which is good.. Now some might say that foot pegs are awkwardly placed backwards but it's something you get used to also, it varies from person to person. Though one might feel uncomfortable sitting on a pillion of Duke390 but if one does, it doesn't affect the rider much.

                              Peace [emoji111]🏿️[emoji111]🏿


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                              • #60
                                Re: Continental GT or Bullet 500?

                                I'm only deciding between the Royal Enfield Continental GT Cafe Racer and the KTM RC 390 .

                                The DUKE is not even being considered as an option .

                                The bike will be used for short rides , weekend rides , office trip on fridays and small runs in the neighbourhood and occasional ( and frequent ) trips to the grocery shops , as per requested by parents


                                I'm gonna try the KTM showroom in Connaught Place tomorrow with my brother , I have heard that they provide test rides on the RC 390 . :: way too much exitement ::
                                And then the lord said "Let there be Bike": And there was bike
                                And the lord saw the bike, and it was Goooood!

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