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**The Monk** · 11-05-2015, 04:36 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

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The FZ is a good bike for a beginner.

**TheArcher84** · 11-05-2015, 04:42 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Hey Rahul.

Welcome to the club. Good to have you here at xBhp.

Since you are beginner and moving out of the county after 2 years, I would suggest you not to invest more on your bike. May be you can upgrade once you are back. Gixxer , FZ is a good start to biking. Since city roads in Kochi are not at its best, its how often you hit the highways also needs consideration.

Both are good city commute and tourer too. I guess the resale value for these 2 are more. If I am put in a situation like this, I would go for the Carb operated vehicle, since people buying Fi vehicles are little skeptical about its condition. As most road-side mechanics are not much equipped to see a Fi engine.

Gixxer would be a good buy and should fetch you ample resale value based on its condition you are to maintain in these 2 years.

Good luck !!!

**sparky** · 11-05-2015, 04:57 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Welcome to the forum, unfortunately none of the bikes you have listed here have good resale value. I would say for 1.5 years and first time on bike the Gixxer would be a great choice. Why not try the new Avenger street?

**tanay** · 11-05-2015, 05:12 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

If you have to sell after 1.5 years, why buy new? Get a second hand jap bike and sell when you go abroad. Minimum depreciation and maintenance hassles.

**HyperRetard** · 11-05-2015, 05:20 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Honestly, it depends on whether if you go abroad, are you planning to get a motorcycle there, or not.

**varuog** · 11-05-2015, 05:31 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Why not try the newly launched Bajaj Avenger models :
Street 220 - If you want more city comfort.
Cruise 220 - If you want more highway comfort.

It will easily fit into your budget and you can invest in good riding gear with the saved money.

**krishna77** · 11-07-2015, 12:11 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

I'd suggest you to go for a 2nd hand bike. Yes, I know it doesn't sound good but if you think practically, a used bike will be better for 1.5-2 years. Because the price difference is too much to ignore. Buy a used bike for around 45-50K, sell it after 1.5 years and go out. When you come back, buy a bigger and better bike.
Best of luck!

**jeevan.chaukar** · 11-07-2015, 10:27 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by krishna77 View Post

I'd suggest you to go for a 2nd hand bike. Yes, I know it doesn't sound good but if you think practically, a used bike will be better for 1.5-2 years. Because the price difference is too much to ignore. Buy a used bike for around 45-50K, sell it after 1.5 years and go out. When you come back, buy a bigger and better bike.
Best of luck!

Even I would agree. Buy a used 125-150 cc bike in decent condition - It surely sounds disappointing and not so glamorous - but think about it....

Faster bikes like Duke 200, Pulsar NS/RS 200, even Avenger etc are somewhat too much for anyone who is riding for the first ever time and that too if that person is going to ride just for 1-2 years from now and then move abroad.

In younger age, one is overly confident about self and tends to think that he/she can do anything in the world

But buying a more aggressive bike as your first one can cause painful results as you may not easily come to terms with capability of bike. Any performance bike has fairly quick pickup and quite rapid braking capability (even Yamaha R15 is a performance bike despite just 150 cc engine - it is a miniature version of bigger Yamahas and on a smaller/slower scale, it performs just like those bigger bikes).

Buying a less aggressive bike - like Pulsar 150, TVS Apache RTR 160/180 ABS, Gixxer 150, Honda CB Hornet 160, Yamaha FZ16 etc could be far wiser decision...Buying used bikes in this category should allow you to learn the tricks of the tread without endangering your life (and others' lives too!)

Duke 200 is the best in up to 1.5 Lakh range - but it is a very aggressive and sharp motorcycle that requires really rapid reflexes by Indian standards and shouldn't probably be anybody's first bike - though some people do buy it as first bike due to its lightness and overall very attractive and unorthodox looks...It grabs eyeballs, it emits 2-stroke like screaming roar that can be noticed by anyone on the street and it performs really well..It has decent fuel economy too...It has sharp brakes and very grippy MRF REVZ tyres - it is a true stepping stone into world of performance motorcycles - it is also suitable for stunting...Except the fact that it is not a comfortable ride, it is simply unbeatable...

If you find idea of FZ16/Pulsar/Apache as too boring, then may be you can think of KTM Duke 200 second hand (should be possible to get below 90K). It is somewhat more expensive to maintain - but it is a trouble free motorcycle with excellent service experience in almost all KTM service stations.

Still - I recommend going for a moderate bike to start with and not such an aggressive one....

**theguywhoissleeping** · 11-07-2015, 11:00 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Query Approved

The FZ is a good bike for a beginner.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post

Hey Rahul.

Welcome to the club. Good to have you here at xBhp.

Since you are beginner and moving out of the county after 2 years, I would suggest you not to invest more on your bike. May be you can upgrade once you are back. Gixxer , FZ is a good start to biking. Since city roads in Kochi are not at its best, its how often you hit the highways also needs consideration.

Both are good city commute and tourer too. I guess the resale value for these 2 are more. If I am put in a situation like this, I would go for the Carb operated vehicle, since people buying Fi vehicles are little skeptical about its condition. As most road-side mechanics are not much equipped to see a Fi engine.

Gixxer would be a good buy and should fetch you ample resale value based on its condition you are to maintain in these 2 years.

Good luck !!!

Thanks for the reply!

I'm currently checking out the Gixxer. Also a couple of used bikes as per yours and others' recommendation - since I won't be staying here long.

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Originally posted by sparky View Post

Welcome to the forum, unfortunately none of the bikes you have listed here have good resale value. I would say for 1.5 years and first time on bike the Gixxer would be a great choice. Why not try the new Avenger street?

Hello! Avenger - I'm really reluctant in going for because the traffic here is terrible - and I'm not confident that I can filter in a bike with such a long wheelbase.

But I'm actively looking into Gixxer! Thanks a lot for the recommendation.

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Originally posted by tanay View Post

If you have to sell after 1.5 years, why buy new? Get a second hand jap bike and sell when you go abroad. Minimum depreciation and maintenance hassles.

Thanks!I really am considering it!

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Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post

Honestly, it depends on whether if you go abroad, are you planning to get a motorcycle there, or not.

It depends really. If I end up going for something like a Duke, which I'm less tempted to, after reading all the comments, I would continue riding there - maybe even ship it abroad for use there. But if it is something local, I think I'd sell it off before moving. Either way, I think I'd like to ride abroad as well.

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Originally posted by varuog View Post

Why not try the newly launched Bajaj Avenger models :
Street 220 - If you want more city comfort.
Cruise 220 - If you want more highway comfort.

It will easily fit into your budget and you can invest in good riding gear with the saved money.

I'm a bit reluctant at trying out the Avenger series due to it's rather long wheelbase and the natural difficulty manipulating heavy traffic with such dimensions.

Traffic is terrible here and I'm not confident I'll be able to filter well enough with it to not justify getting a car instead. :P
However, thanks for the recommendation, and I'll take into consideration what you've advised about proper riding gear.

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Originally posted by krishna77 View Post

I'd suggest you to go for a 2nd hand bike. Yes, I know it doesn't sound good but if you think practically, a used bike will be better for 1.5-2 years. Because the price difference is too much to ignore. Buy a used bike for around 45-50K, sell it after 1.5 years and go out. When you come back, buy a bigger and better bike.
Best of luck!

Hi! What you're suggesting is a great idea! However, my parents were finally convinced to let me bug a motorcycle under the strict condition that it be new and safe to ride. I'm in the process of trying to convince them to let me get a pre-approved used motorcycle right now. Hopefully it all works out, else I'll be getting myself a Gixxer.

Thanks!

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Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post

Even I would agree. Buy a used 125-150 cc bike in decent condition - It surely sounds disappointing and not so glamorous - but think about it....

Faster bikes like Duke 200, Pulsar NS/RS 200, even Avenger etc are somewhat too much for anyone who is riding for the first ever time and that too if that person is going to ride just for 1-2 years from now and then move abroad.

In younger age, one is overly confident about self and tends to think that he/she can do anything in the world

But buying a more aggressive bike as your first one can cause painful results as you may not easily come to terms with capability of bike. Any performance bike has fairly quick pickup and quite rapid braking capability (even Yamaha R15 is a performance bike despite just 150 cc engine - it is a miniature version of bigger Yamahas and on a smaller/slower scale, it performs just like those bigger bikes).

Buying a less aggressive bike - like Pulsar 150, TVS Apache RTR 160/180 ABS, Gixxer 150, Honda CB Hornet 160, Yamaha FZ16 etc could be far wiser decision...Buying used bikes in this category should allow you to learn the tricks of the tread without endangering your life (and others' lives too!)

Duke 200 is the best in up to 1.5 Lakh range - but it is a very aggressive and sharp motorcycle that requires really rapid reflexes by Indian standards and shouldn't probably be anybody's first bike - though some people do buy it as first bike due to its lightness and overall very attractive and unorthodox looks...It grabs eyeballs, it emits 2-stroke like screaming roar that can be noticed by anyone on the street and it performs really well..It has decent fuel economy too...It has sharp brakes and very grippy MRF REVZ tyres - it is a true stepping stone into world of performance motorcycles - it is also suitable for stunting...Except the fact that it is not a comfortable ride, it is simply unbeatable...

If you find idea of FZ16/Pulsar/Apache as too boring, then may be you can think of KTM Duke 200 second hand (should be possible to get below 90K). It is somewhat more expensive to maintain - but it is a trouble free motorcycle with excellent service experience in almost all KTM service stations.

Still - I recommend going for a moderate bike to start with and not such an aggressive one....

Hi! Thanks for your response!
Like I said it took years to convince my parents to let me buy a motorcycle and one of their conditions was that it be a new bike. I'm trying to convince them to change their mind, so hopefully they can see the light soon. Thank you for your feedback on the more higher end - powerful motorcycles. I'll definitely keep it in mind before purchase.
Thanks.

**HyperRetard** · 11-07-2015, 11:41 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by theguywhoissleeping View Post

It depends really. If I end up going for something like a Duke, which I'm less tempted to, after reading all the comments, I would continue riding there - maybe even ship it abroad for use there. But if it is something local, I think I'd sell it off before moving. Either way, I think I'd like to ride abroad as well.

a) You cant just simply ship a bike abroad just like that. It requires paperwork and duties. <you're looking at another 2-3 lakh for just shipping + paperwork>

b) my question was that if you see yourself buying a bigger bike when you are overseas,(like a 600 or something). If yes, then get a 390, so that you get used to some power, If not, then buy either a FZ or a Gixxer.

**theguywhoissleeping** · 11-08-2015, 09:31 AM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post

a) You cant just simply ship a bike abroad just like that. It requires paperwork and duties. <you're looking at another 2-3 lakh for just shipping + paperwork>

b) my question was that if you see yourself buying a bigger bike when you are overseas,(like a 600 or something). If yes, then get a 390, so that you get used to some power, If not, then buy either a FZ or a Gixxer.

Of course, I am assuming that if have used it here for 2 years +, so I won't be levied import taxes of any sort. Depends on how much of an impression it creates on me - I might decide to bring it with me - I most likely might be planning to settle there.

I could see myself upgrading to a nice 600 sometime after getting some experience in a few years.

**HyperRetard** · 11-08-2015, 12:26 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by theguywhoissleeping View Post

Of course, I am assuming that if have used it here for 2 years +, so I won't be levied import taxes of any sort. Depends on how much of an impression it creates on me - I might decide to bring it with me - I most likely might be planning to settle there.

You assume wrong. Every country has it's own laws.

**xplod566** · 11-08-2015, 02:19 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by theguywhoissleeping View Post

Hi everyone!

My name's Rahul. This is my first time posting on these forums. Hope we can get along!

I'm facing a bit of a conundrum in choosing my first motorcycle and I'm really hoping that some of you guys can help me out.

I'll shortly list out my requirements and conditions, but before that, I'd like to state that ever since I was a little boy, I've always been fascinated by motorcycles and it took me 23 long responsible years to convince my parents to allow me to buy a motorcycle. I really hope that this motorcycle, that I'm about to get, can help me realise my passion for motorcycling to a much deeper extent and can act as a stepping stone to foster my growth in the art.

Enough with my rambling, onto the details:

1. Budget - up to 1.8 Lakhs.
2. Age - 23
3. Height - 6'1"
4. Weight - 100kg
5. How long I'm planning to keep it - 1.5 Years - I'll be going abroad for studies after that - so hopefully a motorcycle that won't depreciate too much within that span.
6. Riding experience - None. Have ridden the bicycle a lot and learnt on a moped like the rest of us, but never a geared motorcycle. I also know how to drive a car, so the gearing mechanism isn't new to me - So if you can suggest a forgiving, easy to learn bike, that'd be perfect!
7. Intended usage - Daily commute to office and back home (round trip of 30 kms daily), biweekly trip to my hometown and occasional short rides 10-20 km rides.
8. Fuel Efficiency requirement - Anything above 30-35 is fine.
9. City & Highway percentage usage - about half on the highway and half in the cities
10. Approximate Daily / Monthly running - Monthly just about 700kms.
11. City / Town /Village of residence - Kochi, Kerala - city roads are terrible, but highways are OK.
12. Brand / Bike type preference - I have a few in mind - Yamaha R15 v2.0 (1.38 Lakh on road here), Yamaha Fazer 2.0(1.02 lakh), Yamaha FZ-S 2.0 (97k), Honda CBR 250R (1.8 lakh), Suzuki Gixxer (86k), Suzuki Gixxer SF (98k), KTM Duke 200 (1.68 lakh), Bajaj Pulsar AS200 (1.1 lakh), Bajaj Pulsar RS200 (1.55 lakh ABS), Hero Karizma ZMR (1.10 lakh)

These are the bikes I've narrowed down to along with the final on road price as quoted by the respective dealers. As I've said before, I'm new to motorcycling and I'll be leaving the country in 1.5-2 years. With that being said, I'm open to other suggestions as well, so please share your thoughts.

Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance!

- Rahul

Simple,Go for duke 200.You will like it and also you will have good resale value after 2 years(Even better if you can afford 390)

**HyperRetard** · 11-08-2015, 03:24 PM

Re: Motorcycle for Rahul, please?

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

Simple,Go for duke 200.You will like it and also you will have good resale value after 2 years(Even better if you can afford 390)

They are the opposites of each other.

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