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  • Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

    Torn apart between these two beauties.
    Ninja 300 been there for a long time. Its a legend. It has become a cult and people swear by the brand.
    Excellent engine. Killer looks. Slipper clutch. USD forks. Better mileage. Great handling. Plenty of mods.

    Yamaha r3, super refined engine. Great looks. Quality only seconded by ninja. Better breaking. Cheaper to own and maintain. More power and torque (not that it matters so much), bassier exhaust, linear power delivery with lots of torque in lower and mid range.

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    Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

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    Thanks for telling us about the two bikes, unfortunately on xBhp most of us already know

    Tell us what you want and are looking for, that's generally the reason for starting a 'What Bike' Thread!
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    • #3
      Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

      Im more inclined towards R3. These are the things that put me off. I don't know how much is true?
      I want Adequate torque all through the range. Some forums say R3 has better spread of torque others say its Ninja. Some reputed blog even wrote R3 feels like a bored woman at lower revs.
      Again I read that R3 has vibrations in the foot pegs and handle bars at higher revs, while ninja is vib free throughout. is that true?
      Other thing is R3 handle bars touch the tank on one side while taking a u turn?
      Last edited by themachinehead; 01-21-2016, 05:53 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

        Originally posted by themachinehead View Post
        Im more inclined towards R3. These are the things that out me off. I don't know how much is true?
        I want Adequate torque all through the range. Some forums say R3 has better spread of torque others say its Ninja. Some reputed blog even wrote R3 feels like a bored woman at lower revs.
        Again I read that R3 has vibrations in the foot pegs and handle bars at higher revs, while ninja is vib free throughout. is that true?
        Other thing is R3 handle bars touch the tank on one side while taking a u turn?
        I own an R3 so I can answer a few of your questions.

        1. R3 has an absolutely delicious torque range. It is a delight to ride in the low,mid as well as top range so no worries there. I have ridden a ninja for a very short distance and I felt the low end torque is a bit less. Many claim that the Ninja is amazing at high rpms, but the R3 is exciting too. Infact top speed numbers are almost the same for both.

        2. R3 has bit of vibrations at 5.5-6k rpms. They even out a bit after the first service but a slight buzzing is there. Not irritating though. I did not feel any vibrations in the Ninja for the distance that I rode it. That bike is butter smooth.

        3. The handle bar issue was with the first lot bikes. It was rectified later. My bike does not have this issue.

        With both these bikes it is more about what pulls at your heart more. You cannot go wrong with both these choices. Take a long TR of both bikes and then decide.
        I chose R3 due to the slightly better performance, bigger engine, lower asking cost, low cost of spares and servicing and the 'new' factor.
        Last edited by Deathmate.Zed; 01-21-2016, 03:44 PM.
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        • #5
          Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

          Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post
          I own an R3 so I can answer a few of your questions.

          1. R3 has an absolutely delicious torque range. It is a delight to ride in the low,mid as well as top range so no worries there. I have ridden a ninja for a very short distance and I felt the low end torque is a bit less. Many claim that the Ninja is amazing at high rpms, but the R3 is exciting too. Infact top speed numbers are almost the same for both.

          2. R3 has bit of vibrations at 5.5-6k rpms. They even out a bit after the first service but a slight buzzing is there. Not irritating though. I did not feel any vibrations in the Ninja for the distance that I rode it. That bike is butter smooth.

          3. The handle bar issue was with the first lot bikes. It was rectified later. My bike does not have this issue.

          With both these bikes it is more about what pulls at your heart more. You cannot go wrong with both these choices. Take a long TR of both bikes and then decide.
          I chose R3 due to the slightly better performance, bigger engine, lower asking cost, low cost of spares and servicing and the 'new' factor.
          Thank u for your answers. Much appreciated.
          TR is what not available. They simply refuse to give a TD. I live in Lucknow. My friend has a ninja 300 so i had a taste of it. But there are not many owners of R3 and dealerships shoot down my request plain and simple. They just let me start the engine to hear the exhaust, thats it.
          Since you own the R3, is it common for people to mistake it for a R15?
          How much mileage are you getting after the first service?
          How do you compare quality of parts and fit and finish to the N300? Some say R3 looks like an upgraded R15.

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            Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

            Originally posted by themachinehead View Post
            Thank u for your answers. Much appreciated.
            TR is what not available. They simply refuse to give a TD. I live in Lucknow. My friend has a ninja 300 so i had a taste of it. But there are not many owners of R3 and dealerships shoot down my request plain and simple. They just let me start the engine to hear the exhaust, thats it.
            Since you own the R3, is it common for people to mistake it for a R15?
            How much mileage are you getting after the first service?
            How do you compare quality of parts and fit and finish to the N300? Some say R3 looks like an upgraded R15.
            When it comes to looks, it is purely subjective. To the untrained eye, even the R1 looks like an R15 from far. But this discreetness is a boon for me as it avoids unwanted attention towards my bike. Many people will notice that this is a different bike and will keep looking at it trying to figure out how a Yamaha R15 grew so big . If pose value is a very big factor for you then Ninja will satisfy you better. Nobody will mistake that lime green kwacker for anything else. Everything green from the N300 to the N1000 is recognized as a 'Ninjaa' in our country.

            Dealerships will entertain TR requests only after you book the bike. Just ensure you do a fully refundable booking(they have to give that else complain to Yamaha) and then take a TR. If you don't like it, cancel the booking. If you show that you are serious about taking the bike and book it, the dealers usually provide small TRs.

            After first service FE is around 24-25 with almost 100% city riding. Highways should see a figure in the 30s.

            In terms of quality of parts and fit and finish, the Ninja scores higher. Atleast for me. But I have no complaints with the parts quality of R3 either. The Ninja is a small notch higher though.

            In terms of riding pleasure the R3 impressed me more than the Ninja. I did not get to ride the Ninja on empty highways but then that is just a small part of your daily ride. For me, a bie has to be fun both in the city and the highways and the R3 totally does that for me.
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            • #7
              Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

              Originally posted by themachinehead View Post
              Since you own the R3, is it common for people to mistake it for a R15?
              I don't own an either R15 or R3, but I've been on a ride where both were present. IMO its hard to mistake an R3 for an R15 even from a distance.

              The R3 looks tremendous in flesh ... especially in the Blue/Silver ish color. It has a very deep bassy note. The rear tire is far bigger than the R15 and the front looks so much meaner :-)

              As far as the Ninja vs R3 goes what I feel is ...

              1. I hate Yamaha workshops for their after sales service ... but Kawa is the worst when it comes to presales.
              2. You will have to go to lengths to make sure your R3 is never messed with...even new ones. I've seen people rev the R3 like crazy in showrooms.
              3. Ninja 300 has been around for ages and had lots of knowledgeable riders and after market parts readily available.
              4. Performance wise they seem to be neck to neck with R3 slightly in lead ... but the Ninja comes with a slipper clutch as well
              5. R3 runs with a higher compression ratio. Means needs better fuel...fine if you are in the city.

              The Ninja green is unique ... If I had the money I would go for the Ninja. But again you can excuse a fan for being overzealous.

              In the end, irrespective of what's on paper, go with what your heart says.
              When I'm on the road, I'm indestructible. No one can stop me... but they try.

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                Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                Originally posted by themachinehead View Post
                Ninja 300 USD forks
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                Really ??? Are you sure. I dont think so. Not even the 650 comes with USD
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                • #9
                  Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                  Originally posted by themachinehead View Post
                  .

                  Read the first 20 pages of the R3 thread, and you will find a comparo of R3 vs N300 by an owner(of both the motorcycles, and he still has them both).

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                    Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post
                    When it comes to looks, it is purely subjective. To the untrained eye, even the R1 looks like an R15 from far. But this discreetness is a boon for me as it avoids unwanted attention towards my bike. Many people will notice that this is a different bike and will keep looking at it trying to figure out how a Yamaha R15 grew so big . If pose value is a very big factor for you then Ninja will satisfy you better. Nobody will mistake that lime green kwacker for anything else. Everything green from the N300 to the N1000 is recognized as a 'Ninjaa' in our country.

                    Dealerships will entertain TR requests only after you book the bike. Just ensure you do a fully refundable booking(they have to give that else complain to Yamaha) and then take a TR. If you don't like it, cancel the booking. If you show that you are serious about taking the bike and book it, the dealers usually provide small TRs.

                    After first service FE is around 24-25 with almost 100% city riding. Highways should see a figure in the 30s.

                    In terms of quality of parts and fit and finish, the Ninja scores higher. Atleast for me. But I have no complaints with the parts quality of R3 either. The Ninja is a small notch higher though.

                    In terms of riding pleasure the R3 impressed me more than the Ninja. I did not get to ride the Ninja on empty highways but then that is just a small part of your daily ride. For me, a bie has to be fun both in the city and the highways and the R3 totally does that for me.
                    Thanks a lot for your input. I think I'll bet on the R3. Would try to get aTD on both to see what revs my heart!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                      Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
                      Read the first 20 pages of the R3 thread, and you will find a comparo of R3 vs N300 by an owner(of both the motorcycles, and he still has them both).
                      Thanks man. I will look up the post.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                        Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                        Really ??? Are you sure. I dont think so. Not even the 650 comes with USD
                        Yepp. My bad. No USD. only slipper clutch.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                          Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
                          I don't own an either R15 or R3, but I've been on a ride where both were present. IMO its hard to mistake an R3 for an R15 even from a distance.

                          The R3 looks tremendous in flesh ... especially in the Blue/Silver ish color. It has a very deep bassy note. The rear tire is far bigger than the R15 and the front looks so much meaner :-)

                          As far as the Ninja vs R3 goes what I feel is ...

                          1. I hate Yamaha workshops for their after sales service ... but Kawa is the worst when it comes to presales.
                          2. You will have to go to lengths to make sure your R3 is never messed with...even new ones. I've seen people rev the R3 like crazy in showrooms.
                          3. Ninja 300 has been around for ages and had lots of knowledgeable riders and after market parts readily available.
                          4. Performance wise they seem to be neck to neck with R3 slightly in lead ... but the Ninja comes with a slipper clutch as well
                          5. R3 runs with a higher compression ratio. Means needs better fuel...fine if you are in the city.

                          The Ninja green is unique ... If I had the money I would go for the Ninja. But again you can excuse a fan for being overzealous.

                          In the end, irrespective of what's on paper, go with what your heart says.
                          Hi
                          Thank man for your valuable input..
                          1.What all can be done to make sure my bike is not messed up?
                          2. R3 requires better fuel. Filling up from any city fuelling station will do or i have to look for something in particular?
                          I just hope yamaha after sales service will be good. After sales service accounts for major part of ownership experience.
                          I will not be modding by bike for long time. I'm kinda new to the biking, graduating from a 100cc passion to 300 cc motor. Digesting this would take me a long time. In between my profession required me on a four wheeler. I have not been biking since long. So aftermarket parts are not really my concern right now.

                          I just want a bike that is as enthusiastic in the city as on a highway with decent FE, and no visits to a service center except for periodic servicing, no nonsense headache free ownership.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                            Wait till next month, some interesting launches coming up.

                            Bajaj Auto has sent out an invite for a motorcycle launch on February 1st prior to the 2016 Auto Expo and we suspect it to be the new Pulsar CS400 power cruiser


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                            • #15
                              Re: Ninja 300 vs Yamaha R3

                              I'm not really a pulsar guy.
                              Thanks for the info though.

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