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**The Monk** · 03-14-2016, 11:50 AM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

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The R3 or N3 is probably a much better deal than the TNT300.

Check out which of the two japs is cheaper/ easier to maintain, better after sales in your city and go with that.

**Gollum** · 03-14-2016, 01:48 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

R3 owner suggesting Benelli TNT 300

Why, if not looks, the sound will turn every head around.

This bike is FAT. yes BIG and FAT
Looks expensive, maybe a bit difficult to maintain but hey, its an expensive bike, it supposed to be expensive to maintain.
You cannot expect 100 rupee accessories

All bikes with liquid cooling heat up in bumper to bumper traffic. I learned this with my R3 an R15 and now I don't complain, I just take my Splendor.

R3 is not good for touring, you will get tired after a while and it does not have a big tank so you cannot go far with backup fuel in a bag. or map marked.

As far as power goes, R3 bike has a controlled madness stored in that throttle. It just waits for you to twist the throttle and once you go beyond 7k RPM it will shoot to the stars. I exaggerate

**Shashank Suresh** · 03-14-2016, 01:56 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Personal opinion posted below.

Yamaha R3 - Semi aggressive rider positioning, bad pillion seat, "okay okay" tyres, shoots like a bullet, cheaper to maintain, no abs.

Benelli TNT 300 - Comfortable rider position, good pillion comfort, very good tyres, will not shoot like a bullet as its ~196 kgs, expensive to maintain (premium product), really good for touring, no abs (for now, can be retrofitted in the months to come), eargasm exhaust note.

Ninja 300 - Proven in the market, Comfortable rider position, decent pillion comfort, good tyres, a very good sports tourer, expensive to maintain, really good to tour and for city rides, no abs.

**HyperRetard** · 03-14-2016, 02:29 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Query Approved

The R3 or N3 is probably a much better deal than the TNT300.

Check out which of the two japs is cheaper/ easier to maintain, better after sales in your city and go with that.

And how did you arrive at that conclusion?

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[COLOR=#333333][FONT=verdana]Driving style - Mostly touring with occassional bursts of speed to provide that adrenaline rush to my cells.
[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=verdana]Expectation from the new bike - [B]Should be a good tourer[/B], effortless handler, head turner, etc. [B]Should provide enough juice for highways and enough grunt for daily commuting[/B] as well. Should stand out among crowd and be a head turner. Should make me confident of handling in different situations (wet, dry, gravel, etc.). Low on maintenance with [B]comfortable riding posture[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR]

Touring. Benelli >>> others
Handling. Dont know much.
Head turner. Ninja = R3 >>>>>>>>>>TNT300
Enough juice for highways and enough juice for commute. All three are more than adequete.
Stand out and crowd puller = See head turner
Confident handling. Well, when you get used to your bike(any bike that you have), it is the most comfortable thing around.
Low maintenance? LOL! look elsewhere. For all three.
Comfortable: TNT>R3>N300

Honestly mate. Decide on what matters to you more, Touring or Head-turning

If its touring, go for the TNT. If its the latter, buy whatever you fall in love with. Both will pull crowds equally. You have to decide what pulls you.

But do go through this thread by @AnirbanB . If not anything else, you'll end up admiring the beautiful pics. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...piti-solo.html

**Naveen Vajja** · 03-14-2016, 07:06 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by shera_ranveer View Post

Expectation from the new bike -

Should be
a good tourer
effortless handler
head turner
etc.

Should provide enough juice for highways and enough grunt for daily commuting as well.
Should stand out among crowd and be a head turner.
Should make me confident of handling in different situations (wet, dry, gravel, etc.).
Low on maintenance with comfortable riding posture.
Should have decent FE and be able to go to places like Ladakh.

TNT and R3 have a more upright riding position. Ninja is more rear set ... ride the bikes and get a feel of what you are more comfortable in. The Ninja has the biggest tank though.
In the stock avatar, in terms of handling, I'm more inclined towards the Ninja than the R3 or the TNT. The TNT is let down by its weight and the R3 by its tires(flattish profile). Though again with the IRCs taking time to heat up
Head turner .... This is not a quality you'd want in a bike ... unless you want to be around always trying to guard it
For the city, the R3 makes more sense in the city with the peak torque of 29.4 MN @ 9000 rpm lower than the other two.

End of the day, in terms of performance etc etc ... there will be so minor difference in real world terms. Its not a racetrack where that extra 3 bhp matter.

R3 is the cheapest to maintain while the TNT is the most expensive and the Ninja in between. Spared will be easier available for the R3 and so will a lot of aftermarkets if desired.

IMO, the R3 might be the best suited for your requirement. But as always ... ride the bikes and it will be easier for you to decide.

**aerofire** · 03-14-2016, 08:00 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Yamaha YZF R3 - Easy to maintain among the 3 , but might not be good for long distance touring , due to the riding stance.
N300 - Right in the middle .
TNT300- If you can spend the extra buck , go for it.

Have considered the Mahindra Mojo ?

**drdanishkhannew.540** · 03-14-2016, 08:37 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Same situation here brother.. its itter chaos in my head even after reading about andwatching so many comparos .. TNT and Ninja ateno doubt better bikes but the spares and servicing cost are extremely expensive.. If you want something thats fun and RELATIVELY easy on the pocket then R3 is the best bet in my opinion.. Coming from an R15 2009 i felt quite comfy on the R3 except the rear brake pedal which felt kinda awkward..

**Chandan92** · 03-14-2016, 08:50 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

For the TS i will keep it simple:

1. R3 - kind of sports tourer like riding posture, maintenance cost is low as compared to other three, tyres are average, cost is in between tnt & ninja, spares parts are priced Ok.

2. TNT 300 - awesome exhaust note, upright riding posture, servicing & spares parts are costly, quite heavy, sufficient power.

3. Ninja - awesome looks, costlier than other two, wide Ktm network, sometimes parts do take time to arrive, aggressive riding posture as compared to R3, largest tank among other two.

I would suggest you to test ride all three bikes. You can also look for Z250, it's a naked twin with kawasaki trust.

**shera_ranveer** · 03-14-2016, 10:31 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Query Approved

The R3 or N3 is probably a much better deal than the TNT300.

Check out which of the two japs is cheaper/ easier to maintain, better after sales in your city and go with that.

Thanks [MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION] for your reply. I think due to higher spares costs and waiting time, N300 might be slightly on the higher side to maintain as compared to R3. Also, does Kawasaki have separate service centres or are they clubbed with those of Duke, etc.???

Regards...

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Originally posted by Gollum View Post

R3 owner suggesting Benelli TNT 300

Why, if not looks, the sound will turn every head around.

This bike is FAT. yes BIG and FAT
Looks expensive, maybe a bit difficult to maintain but hey, its an expensive bike, it supposed to be expensive to maintain.
You cannot expect 100 rupee accessories

All bikes with liquid cooling heat up in bumper to bumper traffic. I learned this with my R3 an R15 and now I don't complain, I just take my Splendor.

R3 is not good for touring, you will get tired after a while and it does not have a big tank so you cannot go far with backup fuel in a bag. or map marked.

As far as power goes, R3 bike has a controlled madness stored in that throttle. It just waits for you to twist the throttle and once you go beyond 7k RPM it will shoot to the stars. I exaggerate

Thanks [MENTION=79452]Gollum[/MENTION] for the response. As you mentioned, the TNT300 is a heavy bike, so won't maneuvering in traffic be a bit of issue??? Also, it gives power and torque at a higher rpm, so managing it in city might not be so easy IMO.

If I were expecting 100 rupees accessories, I would go in for any scooty

...

Also, I had been using my R15 in Mumbai for around 5 years and presently in Hubli-Dharwad. But I have never felt any heating issues with my R15 from 2009 till date.

In the Yamaha R3 ownership review thread, I happened to read the review of [MENTION=61712]ArnabC[/MENTION], who had undertaken B'lore to Goa and reverse (1500 kms) journey and he was quite comfortable. Also, he had done around 4080 kms for a round trip from B'lore to Kolkata. As per his reviews, he was super comfortable during the journey. So, have doubts regarding R3 being a non-tourer. Also, wish to inform that in R15 also, I have been touring a lot and have never been so very uncomfortable.

Anyways, looking forward for more inputs from you...

Regards...

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Originally posted by Shashank Suresh View Post

Personal opinion posted below.

Yamaha R3 - Semi aggressive rider positioning, bad pillion seat, "okay okay" tyres, shoots like a bullet, cheaper to maintain, no abs.

Benelli TNT 300 - Comfortable rider position, good pillion comfort, very good tyres, will not shoot like a bullet as its ~196 kgs, expensive to maintain (premium product), really good for touring, no abs (for now, can be retrofitted in the months to come), eargasm exhaust note.

Ninja 300 - Proven in the market, Comfortable rider position, decent pillion comfort, good tyres, a very good sports tourer, expensive to maintain, really good to tour and for city rides, no abs.

Thanks [MENTION=80219]Shashank Suresh[/MENTION] for the reply. Considering TNT300 to be an Italian product (even though it is being manufactured in "China", which for me is immaterial for me), I am sure it must be a SUPERB BIKE. Thats why was considering it as well. But in the ownership thread, have gone through several issues that owners are having with the bike, some of which are serious. Like the one mentioned in my quote about fuse and bike stalling. Since I love touring, such a situation on highways might be frightening for me. Anyways, how about your experience with your bike???

Regards...

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Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post

And how did you arrive at that conclusion?

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[COLOR=#333333][FONT=verdana]Driving style - Mostly touring with occassional bursts of speed to provide that adrenaline rush to my cells.
[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=verdana]Expectation from the new bike - [B]Should be a good tourer[/B], effortless handler, head turner, etc. [B]Should provide enough juice for highways and enough grunt for daily commuting[/B] as well. Should stand out among crowd and be a head turner. Should make me confident of handling in different situations (wet, dry, gravel, etc.). Low on maintenance with [B]comfortable riding posture[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR]

Touring. Benelli >>> others
Handling. Dont know much.
Head turner. Ninja = R3 >>>>>>>>>>TNT300
Enough juice for highways and enough juice for commute. All three are more than adequete.
Stand out and crowd puller = See head turner
Confident handling. Well, when you get used to your bike(any bike that you have), it is the most comfortable thing around.
Low maintenance? LOL! look elsewhere. For all three.
Comfortable: TNT>R3>N300

Honestly mate. Decide on what matters to you more, Touring or Head-turning

If its touring, go for the TNT. If its the latter, buy whatever you fall in love with. Both will pull crowds equally. You have to decide what pulls you.

But do go through this thread by @AnirbanB . If not anything else, you'll end up admiring the beautiful pics. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...piti-solo.html

Hi [MENTION=43844]HyperRetard[/MENTION]. Thanks for the reply. As far as the confusion between Touring or Head-turning is concerned, have done some touring on my R15 in the past and needless to say, the bike did draw lot of attention from the crowd. So, had been spoilt that way long back only

... Hence, once again looking a combination of the two, if possible...

.

Regards...

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Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post

TNT and R3 have a more upright riding position. Ninja is more rear set ... ride the bikes and get a feel of what you are more comfortable in. The Ninja has the biggest tank though.
In the stock avatar, in terms of handling, I'm more inclined towards the Ninja than the R3 or the TNT. The TNT is let down by its weight and the R3 by its tires(flattish profile). Though again with the IRCs taking time to heat up
Head turner .... This is not a quality you'd want in a bike ... unless you want to be around always trying to guard it
For the city, the R3 makes more sense in the city with the peak torque of 29.4 MN @ 9000 rpm lower than the other two.

End of the day, in terms of performance etc etc ... there will be so minor difference in real world terms. Its not a racetrack where that extra 3 bhp matter.

R3 is the cheapest to maintain while the TNT is the most expensive and the Ninja in between. Spared will be easier available for the R3 and so will a lot of aftermarkets if desired.

IMO, the R3 might be the best suited for your requirement. But as always ... ride the bikes and it will be easier for you to decide.

Thanks [MENTION=42667]Naveen Vajja[/MENTION] for the response. Looking for a head turner since R15 had spoilt me like that from 2009... I too feel that R3 might be more apt for daily commuting due to the presence of torque in the lower band as compared to all the three bikes. The problem is, TD is not available easily for R3 or N3 and none of my friends have either of them. So, it is a tough decision...

Regards...

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Originally posted by aerofire View Post

Yamaha YZF R3 - Easy to maintain among the 3 , but might not be good for long distance touring , due to the riding stance.
N300 - Right in the middle .
TNT300- If you can spend the extra buck , go for it.

Have considered the Mahindra Mojo ?

Hi [MENTION=56202]aerofire[/MENTION]. Have not yet gone through owner reviews of N300. Will be able to understand the bike more once I go through it. But Mahindra Mojo is not my cup of tea as I seriously doubt Mahindra 2-wheelers overall quality and the SC guys offer pathetic customer support out here. Also, Mojo is single cylinder, I guess...

Regards...

**Naveen Vajja** · 03-14-2016, 10:35 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by shera_ranveer View Post

Thanks @Naveen Vajja for the response. Looking for a head turner since R15 had spoilt me like that from 2009... I too feel that R3 might be more apt for daily commuting due to the presence of torque in the lower band as compared to all the three bikes. The problem is, TD is not available easily for R3 or N3 and none of my friends have either of them. So, it is a tough decision...

Regards...

If you ever were in Banglore you can have a go at it. In Hyderabad they even refuse to show you a Ninja 300, let alone test drive it .

**shera_ranveer** · 03-14-2016, 10:38 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by drdanishkhannew.540 View Post

Same situation here brother.. its itter chaos in my head even after reading about andwatching so many comparos .. TNT and Ninja ateno doubt better bikes but the spares and servicing cost are extremely expensive.. If you want something thats fun and RELATIVELY easy on the pocket then R3 is the best bet in my opinion.. Coming from an R15 2009 i felt quite comfy on the R3 except the rear brake pedal which felt kinda awkward..

Hi @drdanishkhannew. Had gone through your posts in R3 ownership reviews. Guess we both are sailing in the same boat. Am also having an R15, bought in 2009. Have clocked around 42000 kms only till now. But an upgrade is now desirable. Was expecting something cool from Yamaha, but reviews of R3 are not so outrightly confidence inspiring. So, am confused now. However, all the bikes are having some issues or the other. Nevertheless, hope to make a decision soon in this aspect...

Regards...

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Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post

For the TS i will keep it simple:

1. R3 - kind of sports tourer like riding posture, maintenance cost is low as compared to other three, tyres are average, cost is in between tnt & ninja, spares parts are priced Ok.

2. TNT 300 - awesome exhaust note, upright riding posture, servicing & spares parts are costly, quite heavy, sufficient power.

3. Ninja - awesome looks, costlier than other two, wide Ktm network, sometimes parts do take time to arrive, aggressive riding posture as compared to R3, largest tank among other two.

I would suggest you to test ride all three bikes. You can also look for Z250, it's a naked twin with kawasaki trust.

Thanks [MENTION=31875]chandan[/MENTION]. Will go through the reviews of Z250 to know the bike. have not yet considered it... I guess you have got an R3, right? Any issues you have faced till now???

Regards...

**HyperRetard** · 03-14-2016, 10:40 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by aerofire View Post

Yamaha YZF R3 - Easy to maintain among the 3 , but might not be good for long distance touring , due to the riding stance.
N300 - Right in the middle .
TNT300- If you can spend the extra buck , go for it.

Have considered the Mahindra Mojo ?

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

a) The riding stance pf R3 is much more relaxed than the N300. It is, (IMO) TNT(most relaxed) >R3>>>>N300
b) N300 in definitely not in the middle. The R3 is in the middle. The N3 is the one that wins the posing contest, with that Lime Green paint scheme. The TNT wins the touring hands down.
c) The TNT cheapest out of the three.

I do not know about the maintenance cost of either, so I will not comment on that.

**shera_ranveer** · 03-14-2016, 10:40 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post

If you ever were in Banglore you can have a go at it. In Hyderabad they even refuse to show you a Ninja 300, let alone test drive it .

Sure. Will try to get some link in Bangalore soon...

Regards...

**Chandan92** · 03-14-2016, 10:56 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs Benelli TNT 300 - Which one to buy??? Please help...

Originally posted by shera_ranveer View Post

Thanks [MENTION=31875]chandan[/MENTION]. Will go through the reviews of Z250 to know the bike. have not yet considered it... I guess you have got an R3, right? Any issues you have faced till now???

Regards...

Yes I have got R3 recently, clocked 1750 kms, issues are not serious one but eliminate with time like slight vibes on handlebars.

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