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  • To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

    Hi,

    I have a 2015 RE Thunderbird UCE ( 7 months old run 22,000 kms ).

    To state the reason for a new bike :

    I used to own a 2005 RE Thunderbird AVL which I had kept for 5 years. In spite of the Thunderbird being a comfortable bike I had developed severe shoulder pain during the ownership. Had sold it off in frustration and bought a Suzuki Access 125 which I had kept for 2 years and again changed the same to a Pulsar 220F ( 2013 model ). So I still had the issue of the shoulder pain with the Access but miraculously during the ownership of the P220 this subsided. Have done extensive touring on the 220 and finally sold that off in 2015 and got a Thunderbird UCE.

    Now the shoulder pain has resurfaced and taking a toll on me. My daily travel is 160 kms to and fro from office which includes 70% highway and 30% city ( Greater Noida- Gurgaon-Greater Noida ) through expressways and city roads and highways. That is the daily schedule apart from my weekend trips of around 800-900kms in a day.

    The TB UCE is serving me well with no engine issues till now apart from the disc replacement and fuel gauge replacement. I am in a dilemma to carry on riding this or change it. I have tried changing the handlebar from stock to RD 350 but no respite. I have also changed the alignment of the stock bars and tried different seating postures but it seems to persist.

    My family would shoot me between the legs if I mention of selling the bird in 6 months, however am realizing this might get worse.

    Now for the replacement have 2 bikes in mind.

    Pulsar 220F and AS200.

    Pulsar 220F - Have ridden the same extensively and toured for 35K on the ODO in 2 years. Have really roughed it but miraculously it was a gem to own. It was regularly serviced and fed on Motul 5100 and 7100. The riding posture was pretty comfortable for me except some knee stiffness and calf muscle tension because of the sporty stance, but no should pain issues. Had sold it because it kind of lost the finesse it had in the engine after a trip to Himachal with pillion and luggage, where it was constantly ridden at 95+ on NH1. That trip seemed to be the nail in the coffin and it never regained its charm. Also after selling my TB AVL was dying to get back to RE once again.
    With the P220 my riding style had changed. I am not a boy racer however found it really chuckable in the city and fast. With RE its a different story altogether and I am still getting used to the fact that I cannot ride it unlike how I used to ride the 220. Overall a very good ownership of the P220 which makes me go back to it. All P220 owners would know what the experience of having one is.

    AS200 - The new kid on the block with refinement and modern tech. Haven't gone extensively through the ownership of the AS200 thread to find its negatives and positives. However know for surely its a pretty high revving bike and can solve my purposes of work and touring requirements. Would it be bullet proof as the P220 in the ownership. As already stated my usage is around 3500kms every month through pretty much grueling conditions.

    Now should I sell the TB. Its is pretty immaculate condition except a dent in the front mudguard from the crashbar. It is heavily modded for touring requirements with a set of halogen fog lamps along with the headlight, a set of LED Fog Lamps on the crash bar, a retro windshield ( the one we used to find on the Machismo ) a Ladakh Carrier fitted, racing stripes running all along the length of the bike ( for look and reflective appeal ). It is cleaned on a daily basis and serviced every month from a RE SVC. If I sell it how much is the price I am looking at ???? Please suggest

    Also among the P220 and the AS200 which one will be a better option. I am assuming a lot of people might suggest me the AS200, however I have been a P220 owner and know for sure obviously that the AS200 makes slight better power figures in a refined and modern way. My speeds never exceed 80-90kmph so the bike will be ridden in that range. Like I had mentioned I am not into any antics and am a pretty careful rider but do take the opportunity to make a quick dash if the situation demands through the city and the highways. Consider the usage to be used almost 4000k every month.

    Please do suggest and mods if possible approve the post urgently !

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    Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

    Query Approved!
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      Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

      No reply to the thread means, you must have started browsing Ownership review pages of the respective bikes.

      Just check if this helps, http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/what-bik...ow-next-7.html

      Personally, I feel you should root cause the shoulder pain, to see if it is because of the riding position of TB350 or something else.

      IMHO 160Km/day deserves an ABS, just check if you can wait and up your budget to buy a better motorbike.

      EDIT: Thunderbird is touted to be the most comfortable bike for long distances, don't know if anything else can be more comfortable.
      Last edited by jetsetgo08; 04-09-2016, 02:49 PM.

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        Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

        Mods please close this thread as I guess no one is going to suggest anything!!! Will figure it out myself.

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        • #5
          Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

          Hey brother, i feel your pain. I mean literally. I can understand the dilemma involved in picking up a bike. It took me 2 and half years to decide Which bike to buy. My Existing bike served me well and my prospective choice was RE TBTS. With all its mood swings in everyone's reviews and my own mind revving between highs of a Duke and lows of an RE as well as not wanting to let go of the current bike as well, held me back for 2 years.

          At the end i retained my existing bike, Bought a new RE TBTS to satisfy The Urge. So the point i am trying to make here is, If you like a certain bike you are better off in buying that one instead of drooling off each time someone passes you by with that model!

          Now to the shoulder pain. In the city where I am i used to ply 110 Kms daily. I sort of did this with a borrowed Bike (registration hassles), then with my own bike and at times with the car and it took me 6 months to realize that I should take the public transport instead, leaves me with ample time in transit to read or catch up with friends on phone etc. I feel you too should consider taking a public transport (no offence) because 160Kms Daily is a bit too much! even from a safety point of view, given that sooner or later mental fatigue will get the best of you, or you may have to pay for some other person's faulty driving.

          If not, i would still suggest that you see a good orthopaedic Dr. to understand the root cause of the shoulder pain as it could have so many other reasons.

          So the Bottom Line is Let the Experts of Human Anatomy (A doctor) handle the Shoulder pain issue, and then consider to keep the bike if you really like that bike, or buy a new one if you like That one better. Or try to keep both bikes (Like i did) if Budget/Parking space/family permits.
          Last edited by rugved; 04-12-2016, 12:29 PM.

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            Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

            Hey Rugved...thanks for sharing....my TB has been a darling and is serving me extremely well. The only reason I wanted to switch is because of medical reasons, otherwise I love it to bits.
            As far as availing public transport it involves a lot of hassles since I have to change 3 to 4 modes one way to reach office and connectivity is not that great. I believe with G.Noida getting connected with Metro in 2 years time things will be better and I might avail that.
            To not consult an Ortho has its reasons. I have had this issue for more than 5 years now. Comes up while riding, driving, and laptop usage. I have been living with it and have found out ways in not exerting it. If I consult a doc ( if u know how they are nowadays ) they will create a history out of my case and that will put an end to my riding. They would have suggested me the same if I would have shown them a few years back. Its not that bad as it looks, except have found ways to deal with it and is not that troublesome ( I guess this might be cervical or spondylitis). Its the posture which indicates it.
            Coming back to my decision in selling the TB, I am still experimenting with the handle position and posture. Hope to find the right spot.
            The TB and RE is not that bad as people potray it. It depends on how one maintains it. I have done 22 k in 6 months through all kinds of roads bit it has been niggle free not letting me down in the remotest of places. I am not sure why people take part in RE bashing threads. If u do not like the bike then spend your energy on something else rather than sitting and participating in badmouthing. People who do not have issues are riding them in the meantime rather than not bullet bashing.

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              Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

              Looks like the shoulder gets overworked by your office work-using the computer/laptop-and the high amplitude vibrations of the TB handlebar worsens the scenario-as this problem is your second time with RE bikes-change will be good for shoulder.
              Best of luck n speedy n full recovery.
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                Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

                Originally posted by SidharthaN View Post
                Coming back to my decision in selling the TB, I am still experimenting with the handle position and posture. Hope to find the right spot.
                The TB and RE is not that bad as people potray it. It depends on how one maintains it. I have done 22 k in 6 months through all kinds of roads bit it has been niggle free not letting me down in the remotest of places. I am not sure why people take part in RE bashing threads. If u do not like the bike then spend your energy on something else rather than sitting and participating in badmouthing. People who do not have issues are riding them in the meantime rather than not bullet bashing.
                +1 to what Rugved said.
                160 Km/day consumes too much of time in commutes and is not safe on a two-wheeler without ABS.

                Regarding RE Bashing, unfortunately there are few people on Xbhp who bash RE, and then there are many others who are riding RE's happily and not on Xbhp.

                Note:- I do not own an RE.

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                  Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

                  I take approx 2 hrs everyday one way for my office commute G.Noida-Gurgaon-G.Noida which people take the same time while travelling from Gurgaon-Delhi so time for commutation is almost the same.
                  I do not need an ABS bike since can handle the ride ride without te same.
                  So i tried all permutations and combinations with the handle position, but it does not seem to work.
                  In case I were to change have some rides in mind:
                  Pulsar 220 f - My previous bike. Tried and tested in the same conditions. Excellent feedback in all areas. Good for touring and city.
                  AS 200- Heard does little extra power than 220 but improved package. Do not know the riding ergonomics. Am not sure about long term ownership.
                  Fz V2 - Have kept this in contention inspite of being a 150 cc because of FI which will be handy in tackling office traffic. Generally on the highways keep speeds of 80-90kmph which I think the Fz should maintain. Am not too sure about touring capabilities. I have toured on RE, Suzuki Access Scooter, P220, so believe this should handle my touring requirements and city needs.
                  As 150 - Dunno much about it but have kept it in contention since its a new bike with AS 200 ergonomics but lesser power.

                  How much should I get if I sell my TB. Sep 2015 model 23 k on the odo

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                    Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

                    That's my bird
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                    • #11
                      Re: To keep or not to keep Thunderbird 350

                      Hey bro did u try filling some sand in the handlebar.I had a bit of issues with shoulder pain due to handle vibrations it helped me in subsiding the vibes and pain.The vibrations on handle bar are close to zero.

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