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**The Monk** · 03-29-2017, 11:09 AM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Query Approved

The FZ 25, the Dominar and if you are willing to sacrifice pillion comfort the Dukes. If you are looking for tried and tested though a bit dated, the CBR 250.

**sstherockz** · 03-29-2017, 11:36 AM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Test ride Yamaha FZ25, TVS RTR 200 (if possible wait for ABS and FI), Dominar ABS, RS 200 ABS, Duke 250 and 390 and finally CBR 250R.

if you can wait for some more time you may get a touch on BMW G310R or TVS Apache 300 whichever releases first.

I won't be suggesting RC 200/390 as the seating position is more leaner.

Thanks

**TheArcher84** · 03-29-2017, 01:41 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by arunviswes View Post

Hi All,

My name is Arun. I am a newbie here. I am on the lookout for a new bike. I used to own an Apache RTR 180 (2010) model. I am 5'8" and looking for a bike which would not induce back or wrist pains upon riding. The bike would be mainly used for office commute and occasional long rides. It needs to have a smooth and refined engine with minimal vibrations, hassle free ownership and reasonable pillion comfort. Looking forward to your valuable suggestions.

Regards
Arun

Hey Arun,

FZ25 or Dominar. Dominar is VFM and FZ25 is refined. Height will not be an issue. If you can wait for few more months. G310R is not too far away from launch (from what I heard).

**arunviswes** · 03-29-2017, 03:28 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Thanks for all your responses. Here is what I feel, and what is causing the confusion:

I feel that the FZ 25 is commuterish in it's look though I hear that from a performance, build stand point, it's great
I am skeptical of the Dominar as it looks not very different from the Pulsar. It looks more like a beefed up updated Pulsar - just my feeling
What do you guys think of the Bullet esp. the Classic 500 or Thunderbird 500?

I went to test drive the CBR 250 but only the CBR 150 was available for test drive. The sales person said that the riding position and ergonomics of CBR 250 is not too different from the 150. Is that true? I also enquired about the BS IV CBR 250, but they have no clue about when that would be available.

The BMW G310R is mouth watering prospect, but any chance that will be coming to the shores in the next 3-4 months?

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Also, looking to hear thoughts on how much difference a slipper clutch makes on the riding experience especially in the city?

**KD_19 kb_lover** · 03-29-2017, 08:14 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by sstherockz View Post

Test ride Yamaha FZ25, TVS RTR 200 (if possible wait for ABS and FI), Dominar ABS, RS 200 ABS, Duke 250 and 390 and finally CBR 250R.

if you can wait for some more time you may get a touch on BMW G310R or TVS Apache 300 whichever releases first.

I won't be suggesting RC 200/390 as the seating position is more leaner.

Thanks

That's not Apache 300. It's akula 310.
And going by the looks if the bike, i think it has an aggressive riding position.
And moreover it doesn't have a pillion seat I believe. Experts correct me if I am wrong.

**sstherockz** · 03-29-2017, 09:07 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by KD_19 kb_lover View Post

That's not Apache 300. It's akula 310.
And going by the looks if the bike, i think it has an aggressive riding position.
And moreover it doesn't have a pillion seat I believe. Experts correct me if I am wrong.

Did you get a chance to see the test mule?

Akula 310 is a race concept bike by Tvs

And it will not release with the name Akula 310 and am pretty sure of it at least.
And it does have a Pillion seat.. Riding stance based on test mule is between R15 and RC 200. Now you go and check it out dude...

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**KD_19 kb_lover** · 03-29-2017, 10:01 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by sstherockz View Post

Did you get a chance to see the test mule?

Akula 310 is a race concept bike by Tvs

And it will not release with the name Akula 310 and am pretty sure of it at least.
And it does have a Pillion seat.. Riding stance based on test mule is between R15 and RC 200. Now you go and check it out dude...

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I saw the site you shared.
But in some akula photos, there is no pillion seat.
Thanks dude.

**arunviswes** · 03-29-2017, 11:15 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Guys, any thoughts on my last post?

**sstherockz** · 03-30-2017, 12:32 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by arunviswes View Post

Thanks for all your responses. Here is what I feel, and what is causing the confusion:

I feel that the FZ 25 is commuterish in it's look though I hear that from a performance, build stand point, it's great
I am skeptical of the Dominar as it looks not very different from the Pulsar. It looks more like a beefed up updated Pulsar - just my feeling
What do you guys think of the Bullet esp. the Classic 500 or Thunderbird 500?

I went to test drive the CBR 250 but only the CBR 150 was available for test drive. The sales person said that the riding position and ergonomics of CBR 250 is not too different from the 150. Is that true? I also enquired about the BS IV CBR 250, but they have no clue about when that would be available.

The BMW G310R is mouth watering prospect, but any chance that will be coming to the shores in the next 3-4 months?

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Also, looking to hear thoughts on how much difference a slipper clutch makes on the riding experience especially in the city?

RE Bullets are really good bikes but the maintenance is where you will cry for help.... RE ASS has never improved. If you give your bike to solve one problem they will invent another problem and give you back.

Seating position of CBR 150 and 250 has almost the same seating position but 250 looks more bigger when you sit on the saddle. To feel the power and torque you need to get a test ride of CBR 250. Send an email or book a test ride through Honda website bro.

The BMW G310R is mouth watering prospect, but any chance that will be coming to the shores in the next 3-4 months? - possible one as per recent news on websites they will be releasing around June it seems.

I don't have much idea about slipper clutches - AFAIK it prevents rear wheel locking during engine braking (during engine downshifts) this might be useful for you during rainy season and on muddy roads provided you are using engine downshifts to brake.

**famishedrider** · 03-30-2017, 02:03 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by KD_19 kb_lover View Post

That's not Apache 300. It's akula 310.
And going by the looks if the bike, i think it has an aggressive riding position.
And moreover it doesn't have a pillion seat I believe. Experts correct me if I am wrong.

The prototype model suggests there wouldn't be a pillion seat but even if the commercial model gets it I'm betting it won't be accessible much.
So, I'd suggest Duke 390 as it gets a little refined engine, softer seats. And the riding position is very pleasant except for the backset foot pedals which are only an issue for long rides but nothing you cannot shake off in a few minutes.

**arunviswes** · 03-30-2017, 02:41 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by famishedrider View Post

The prototype model suggests there wouldn't be a pillion seat but even if the commercial model gets it I'm betting it won't be accessible much.
So, I'd suggest Duke 390 as it gets a little refined engine, softer seats. And the riding position is very pleasant except for the backset foot pedals which are only an issue for long rides but nothing you cannot shake off in a few minutes.

On the 2017 Duke 390 ownership thread, I read about the ECU malfunctioning, malfunction of Drive by wire etc. How reliable is the machine? I am not in an urgent need and hence would want to wait and watch on how it goes with the initial batches of Duke 390. I have requested a test drive for Dominar. Are the vibrations under control with Dominar?

**arunviswes** · 03-30-2017, 03:52 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Any news on the updates to CBR 250R BS IV models? Honda websites have put out massive (up to 22K) on BS III models and hence I am curious if there would be changes to the BS IV models - esp. things like DRL, AHO etc.

**GandalfTheGrey** · 03-30-2017, 07:08 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

As you aren't in a hurry, I suggest you wait for a couple of more weeks. Looks like Indian spec'd version of BMW G310R is launched in Thailand. Sources tell the price is lower than D390's which is even more interesting.

India-spec BMW G310R debuts in Bangkok - Here are the changes

https://www.rushlane.com/bmw-g310r-bangkok-show-12201223.html

BMW G310R India launch has been delayed. The company will focus on exports first. Here is now on display at the 2017 Bangkok Motor Show.

On a completely OT, no offense mate and please don't take me wrong before I ask, why spend 2 to 2.5 lakhs on a bike that's going to be used mainly for commuting and occasional touring? I personally feel there are bikes such as FZ25, RTR200, Dominar, and CBR250 are not only well below your budget but also will excellently serve your purpose.

Cheers!

**sanoronha** · 03-30-2017, 07:26 PM

Re: New Bike Needed - Budget - 2 to 2.5 Lakh

Originally posted by sstherockz View Post

RE Bullets are really good bikes but the maintenance is where you will cry for help.... RE ASS has never improved. If you give your bike to solve one problem they will invent another problem and give you back.

Seating position of CBR 150 and 250 has almost the same seating position but 250 looks more bigger when you sit on the saddle. To feel the power and torque you need to get a test ride of CBR 250. Send an email or book a test ride through Honda website bro.

The BMW G310R is mouth watering prospect, but any chance that will be coming to the shores in the next 3-4 months? - possible one as per recent news on websites they will be releasing around June it seems.

I don't have much idea about slipper clutches - AFAIK it prevents rear wheel locking during engine braking (during engine downshifts) this might be useful for you during rainy season and on muddy roads provided you are using engine downshifts to brake.

I have made 2 separate request by email and also with the dealer personally. Not a single response. They don't seem to have the first clue about customer service

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