Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

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Do both the bikes have clean papers? What is the price difference between the two?

What is your budget, if not for these two?

Used bikes are always a bit of a risk, except if you know the history of the bike.

Are you planning to buy these bikes in India or are you currently somewhere abroad? Your profile location says Delhi!

The R6 will do just fine, in fact possibly more fun than the bigger bike. You can more confidently wring the throttle on the supersport as compared to the superbike. Though commuting in traffic will be an issue, with the peaky engine.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

I would like to ask you what your experience in riding superbikes. I am asking this because you are looking at 2 of the finest and the most aggressive machine in the world. 2007 R1 & R6; both had the rawest power and mad acceleration. I happened to experience my first ride on superbike in 2007 R1. R6 is one of the most furious bike and she demands respect from the rider.

If you looking in India, you wont get a legal R6 and that also 2007 model.
And if you going to use for everyday purpose, once you come across the cops, you will be in trouble.

2007 R6 is one of the meanest track machine you will ever get, when you speak about power and performance. So you wont miss the litre class as we dont have roads here where you can cruise on 200+ kmph for hours. Also the spares and the maintenance would be an issue for her. 2007 R1 is equally good.

Make a choice and keep us updated.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

[MENTION=21789]The[/MENTION]monk: Both have absolutely clean papers. R1 is Indian and R6 is legal import. There is a difference of approx 50k in their price. R6 has a higher quoted price as it is first owner and has full track setup. R1 is 3rd owner and is completely stock. Both bikes are in beyond excellent condition with absolutely no engine noise or performance issues.

I am located in Delhi. R6 has RJ number and R1 is DL number.

My max budget is 8L.
[MENTION=18034]Shivanshu[/MENTION]: In last 2 - 3 years I have gathered a ton of experience with these bikes so handling power is no issue. I had my eyes on a very clean ZZR1400 however had to skip it because it was grey.

Both R6 and R1 I am looking for are completely legal. R1 is Indian Invoice and R6 is legal import with necessary DRI clearance and all the papers.

I am just worried that if I get an R6 I may miss the power of R1 .

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

I suggest go for the R1. Since the bike is second hand, you will not be absolutely sure of nothing going wrong with the bike for the next 2 years and parts will be easier to come by relatively speaking to the R6. Both bikes will have heating issues in traffic and I applaud you for your intention to use it everyday, I couldn't. Ride safe

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If I was in your place (Assuming budget = around 8L), I would have blindly choosen CBR 650 F, Perfect alrounder bike. Cheap service and spare parts cost. Absolute value for money for the inline 4.

Edit: Sorry, I hadnt seen, you have rejected 650F( Would like to know the reason though). I have no idea/experience with both R1 and R6.

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I have not ridden either R1 or R6. But I have ridden benelli 600i (SOLD) and I have a daytona675 currently. I would suggest you to test ride a daytona and see how it feels. Believe me it has a very very good low end torque (0-100 in 3.3 secs). Even mid and high end torque are very good. The weight is just 188 kgs wet. You can play around with it nicely. A liter class bikes always produces more heat than a 600 cc bike. Believe me sometimes you can't tolerate the heat from 600cc in city, but it is manageable. As you said you will be using the bike for everyday commuting in city, a liter class will be of no use due to too much heat and you can't use the complete power of a liter class in city. I can't even utilize the complete power of daytona in city.

Daytona can keep up with Liter class bikes and offcourse it brings a big simle on your face. Offcourse in a straight line liter class bikes always wins, but daytona is not far behind. R1 top speed is around 303 kms. Daytona around 260 kms. But before thinking of top speed, think where we are. Since we live in India. On highways even crusing @ 180 kmph is not possible always, so forget riding @ 250 or 300 kmph in India

Reasons to go for a used daytona.

1. Daytona is a new bike when compared to a 8-10 year old R1 or R6.
2. Spare parts are easily available from triumph and Daytona 675 is just 2-3 year old in India.
3. It has ABS and slipper clutch. When dealing with higher cc bikes always think about safety.
4. You can expect a mileage of around 16 kmpl in city. But with R1 it will a single digit in city
5. Even though daytona is not an inline 4, it is inline 3 and the exhaust note with an after market is very good

The above opinion is based on my research before going for a daytona. Even I wanted to go for a used R1, cbr1000rr repsol. But I am completely satisfied with Daytona 675.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

hey thats great buddy, well my heart says go for R6 and my brain says R1.

R6 - one hell of a bike and a unique one with legal papers are a rarity. The cons would be the maintenance, spares and all for this model.

R1 - again awesome power and one reliable machine. Spares and maintenance easy as compared to R6.

Keep us updated, and all the best.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

[MENTION=32054]sambit[/MENTION]: The reason I rejected CBR650F was because it is not a proper superbike. Riding around with other superbikers, it feels underpowered and boring to be honest. It is indeed one of the cheapest to maintain and is an excellent bike however,My previous ownership experiences have taught me that this segment is not for me.

[MENTION=19664]jamesrocky[/MENTION]: I had my eyes on Daytona however good used Daytonas are above my set budget and I do not want to finance the bike so going for a new one will not be possible. Due to some financial issues I need to stay within my budget as I will be getting riding gears too within this budget.
[MENTION=18034]Shivanshu[/MENTION]: My heart and brain say the same thing and this is the reason I am so confused. I always thought I will just pick up the R1 however R6 has so far been very tough to resist and it is indeed a very rare sight. Whichever bike I will pick, I will surely post a full ownership experience in July.
[MENTION=6008]akshay[/MENTION]: I am quite used to all this heat now so there is no heat issue. I understand that these superbikes heat a lot however its okay with me.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

If thats the case and you are ready to bear the brunt then go for the mighty and known R6 brother. I am sure you wont repent your decision. As it is on Indian roads one is never able to use even 80% of the Superbikes power, so R6 will have an advatange here with being small in size and nimble and lighter than R1. But you know the power of the R6 you will have fun on it.... ohh and yes I would be super glad to see R6, its one of my dream machine . Ride Safe brother.

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Why not consider the cbr 600rr? Heard it's a good bike and parts are cheaper compared to the other supersports in the category.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

Could not find any good examples. Most are grey and only legal one I could find was in pathetic condition.

Re: R1 or R6. what will you recommend?

I see, no 600 supersport apart from daytona that you can get, do check out the 2015 gixxer 600, amazing bike! CBR I've suggested cause I've heard Spares n parts are cheaper to get than other 600 supersports, not considering the 959 or 899?

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Daytona is out of budget bro and there are no new legal 600s. I had a 2007 Gixxer 600 in sight however it is grey.
I have seen and heard enough of Ducati horror stories. Its very expensive to maintain and costs a bomb to repair and service. Not for someone like me who uses his bike everyday and for everything.`

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One thing i wanted to add about spares etc.

If you crash a superbike which is currently sold in India, you still need to wait for a month or more to get the parts shipped from abroad. Most of these companies do not stock the parts. So having a motorcycle which is being sold in India isn't an advantage in this regard.

You will take the same amount of time to get parts for the R6, in the unfortunate circumstance of a crash. You will of course need to import it, directly or through some of the workshops which work on superbikes.

For regular wear and tear parts, you need to be a little more careful. You need to know your motorcycle inside out. You need to order those parts in advance before you actually require them. A chain and sprocket set might be available off the shelf for bikes sold in India, you will need to be a little more careful with the R6 so that you don't have to park the bike up for a month waiting for parts to arrive.

With a little bit of extra TLC, i think you will find owning the R6 quite rewarding.

My vote therefore goes for the R6

If the rider doesn't have the skills to ride, then it is mostly the litre class bike riding the rider, instead of the other way around!