itz in the news channel right...name of the show is something like autocar india...and dude....where did u saw zma winnning as there was no competition going on.....they were just tryin to elaborate the power and grunt of these three bykes...they were not comparing it wqith eachother.....ane way..zma is a good tourer byk...no commentz on this...but itz low on power compared to rtr and p220.......p220 is the best for power and grunt....u can have a shot at rtr too....but the only prob is it has low handle..and u have to lean on that...so all the weight would shift on the wrists....so on touring it might be not so comfyn may give you wrists pains.....my bet go for zma if u r a tourer by heart

talking about apache rtr?

go for it .....i am saying cuz i ride one !its awesome bike and head turner!

there are quite a few bikes releasing in the next two months i guess.i better wait and watch what all bikes release then i will have to decide on the bike.today went to RE showroom.they said there is a waiting for 45 days for machismo 500cc
and can anybody tell me a yamaha showroom in hyderabad which gives a proper test ride unlike patny motors yamaha?
thanks for youll help people

Can we install any HIDs on FZ16 or R15?does the battery go dead for every HID?

if u have a GF go for a zma
coz she might not feel good on the r15 or the fz anyday
tons of people complain about the pillion discomfort on the yamahas
ps : no offence to anyone,,,, just giving a general outlook

and bullet is a diff thing altogether
if u really think it can amaze u go with it ,,,, coz bulleteers are generally very attached to their bull ,,,, a sentimental relation u see

but u may find it hard for handling it in the city

go for the zma dude

best of luck

though being a ZMA Owner n fan...
just curious, why isnt Apache RTR180 in your options?

Still go fer a ZMA...

i have a GF but she is quite thin and even if she sits it will be only in the city and not for tours.As I would like peace while touringSo i want to know if pillion riders feel discomfort even if they are sitting only for a matter of half hour or one hour max?what say?
and about the bullet.one thing i realized that you have to have a sentimental relation with the bike and it requires a tad bit more maintanence.so thats why i striked out that option.
the only thing about the ZMA is that its been long since it released and doesnt have the new technology yamaha has to offer.thats the only problem with it.


I would have considered RTR 180.But i really dont know about its touring capabilities.Can anyone throw light on this?

@007roy-Wait till the end of this month or max first week of June,you will see your problems getting solved.

Btw why P200 is not there in your list?For P220 you have already explained.

Test ride the RTR 160. Decide if you like the seating position and the ergonomics because the RTR180 is not much different.

You can put HIDs on any bike. But
1. It might blind oncoming traffic depending on how you put it on what bike.
2. Cops get attracted to it.

My advise is, as MG said, if you can wait for a month or so, then do it because there are a string of launches to be expected. You don't want to end up buying a brand new bike then new bikes start coming thick and fast the next month.

its just that i am not too attracted to the pulsars and bajaj because they dont look as good as R15 or ZMA.thats the only reason.no offence.


yes sir.will first take a test ride and then decide on the bikes.

yeah true.anyways i have to wait till the end of this month because my mom is waiting for the so called IIT results.she still has hopes but i never had.so i would have to wait for the end of this month.if i get thru no use buying a bike but if i dont then i will get a bike.

and even my engineering exams are going on till july 2nd.so i guess all the new bikes would have launched by then.what do youll think?
is waiting will july 2nd sufficient?

You can call me Pranay. Yes, by test driving, it is much easier as you will have a small experience of each bike and therefore easier to decide.


It should be. MG, some help here. July 2 sufficient?

If budget is not a problem then R15. Cheers!

sorry for long post but i do always post long ,,,, it might help

however thin she is ,,,,,she will feel discomfort
even for one hour
this is according to me
now if ur GF is physically strong and able to adjust i dont know
m confused
this is an individual perception ,,,, but in general even an hour is a discomfort surely!!!

man i dont know why people shout about technology
even zma is a good piece of engg
and its quite VALUE FOR MONEY bike ,,,,,,,,
its also good in both on road n off road condition
also capable of city riding
very comfortable for both rider n pillion
arguably the best tourer in INDIA,,,,
what else you want
ask zma owners what they feel ,,,, with the old lady
she is still sexy for me
the only downside i see is that zma spare parts cost a bomb,,,, so maintain it properly!!!!
and as someone told me,,,,, dont crash ---- its costly
dont knw bout R15 n 220 spare part costs but think 220's are on the lower end but hey zma is a honda n things dont wear easily,,,, well things are round n one and the same i guess

at high altitudes i heard there is misfiring problem
but then hey dont tell me you are gonna go to high altitudes at the start of ur touring life rite??? but think it can be fixed,,,, ask zma owners about it

even when there is R15 and P220 with fuel injection technologies
people go touring with bullets which are years old,,,,, which are age old technology ,,, even older than zma,,,,,, legendary thing u see

its their heart n dedication that gets them there
all those people who tour have a feel in them ,,,, that fire
and that oneness with the machine that completes the journey
not the bike!!!

RTR is not a tourer

you can wait for new bikes to be realeased ,,,,,,,,,,
but test drive the P220 to see if it suits u ,,,, dont think about engine and all coz the new engine will be refined more,,,, so at the moment just test ride and see if it suits ur riding style n is comfortable
if it does ,,, then wait for the new 220 n again test ride
coz the outer body n sitting position is most probably going to be the same

you can wait for hi-tech bikes to release but they will come at their price n maintenance and all i cannot comment

acc to me if something however old excites u and is very capable of serving purpose its ok!!!
rest its ur wish
but one important thing,,,,,, if u dont like the bike dont go for it,,,, it may be good but the pyschological effect does play a role,,,, a big role!!!!
cheers

ps: correct me if i am wrong

very true.the only thing to do now is wait for the pulsar 2009 and RTR180 and whatever release before july.until then i will take the test rides of all the bikes.that i will do only after my exams.thanks a lot seniors for your valuable time.

Is any new model of Karizma going to come out guys?
It's being rumoured that Karizma FI is going to be launched this year?
How far is this true guys?