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  • TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

    I have read more than 100s of threads on xbhp regarding bikes, so here is what it comes down to:

    1. Budget: 60K
    2. Body: age 33, 5'6", thin and lean guy
    3. Intended usage: 100% pure office commuting.
    4. Fuel Efficiency requirement: 60+ . 80+ is better
    5. City & Highway percentage usage: 90% city
    6. Approximate Daily running: 30-40km
    7. City: Hyderabad
    8. Preference: No racing/weekend recreations at all.
    9. TOP Priorities: Mileage, good suspension, comfort seating, after sales service, spare parts easily available.


    Question 1: Disc brake are better on these high-mileage+low-power bikes ?
    Question 2: Spoke wheels are better than alloy wheels, technically ?
    Question 3: What benefit electric start has ? I can kick, I am quite fit for that

    I have selected following bikes based on above:
    1. Bajaj CT100B: amazing mileage. no-alloy wheels/disc brakes. Biggest seat I have ever seen. Is this is the tension-free bike every poor guy talks about ? Costs 38K on-road with accessories and everything. 1 year AMC after 1 year warranty included. CT100 as not avaliable.
    2. Bajaj Platina: amazing mileage, good looks comparing to CT100B. Costs 54K with all those same extras for CT100B. Why so much price difference ? DTSi engine is superior than of normal engine of CT100B in what way ?
    3. TVS Sport: amazing mileage, TVS technology, technology and service both better than Bajaj ?
    4. TVS victor: lesser mileage but got disc brakes & alloy wheels. I like these 2 features personally


    I slected TVS because of the xbhp review of TVS Star City Plus. I was impressed by how much technical specifications TVS has provided, how much the company is open about its tech. 2nd, I have visited Hero, TVS and Bajaj showrooms and TVS people seemed most genuine and straighforward. Bajaj people felt too much desi but not dishonest.

    Not selected Honda because from what I have read in 100s of threads here in 7 hours yesterday that Honda bikes are good and reliable but their spare parts and service, both are expensive. Same for Hero. I have asked around offline too and got similar views. Plus, I currently can not afford buying Hero glamour or Honda Shine, budget is already streatched at 60K and mileage is priority.

    NOTE: Mods, I have a thread earlier on which scooter ?, I started new thread because now it has come to TVS vs Bajaj bikes under 60K. If you dont like this happening then you can merge the threads. I just prefered it to be different thread with different requirements.

    EDIT: I bought Bajaj CT100B and started an ownership thread here.
    Last edited by arnuld; 05-13-2016, 11:23 AM. Reason: Bought the bike

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    Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

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      Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

      Question 1: Disc brake are better on these high-mileage+low-power bikes ?
      Ans : Disc brakes are not really needed on such small capacity bikes, but if given the option, they are better than drums anyday. You will have to get used to them for first few kms but once you get the hang of it, they are superb.

      Question 2: Spoke wheels are better than alloy wheels, technically ?
      Ans: Spoke wheels are only good if you off road. Reason, they can be repaired easily with lot less money whereas alloys; if bend or deformed have to be replaced, which is a costly affair. For normal commuting Alloys are always better, lighter and you have the option to go for tubeless tires, which are always better than the tube ones.

      Question 3: What benefit electric start has ? I can kick, I am quite fit for that
      Ans: No particular benefit, but almost all the bikes have the option now. And kick is always present, if you want to use it.

      Looks like your heart is set on TVS Victor, with disk brakes and alloy wheels.
      It is a great bike, if you like it, go for it.
      If this bike is one time investment, you will be using it daily for years to come, so better buy something that you really like.
      If you want to upgrade in near future, go for something that is most value for money and will give you the most bang out of your buck.
      Last edited by Ankey; 05-05-2016, 06:55 PM.
      I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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        Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

        I have subscribed for this thread. Soon, I will be coming to the same position.

        To add more to the concussion, Honda Dream Yuga can also be placed in the list.

        But I personally have 3 bikes in mind - Victor, CT100B, Yuga.

        Will finalise soon and get it, since I will be using it extensively inside City during all seasons. So, don't want to end up with the wrong product.
        R15S - Current
        Honda Dio - Current
        TNT 600i - Sold
        Classic 500 - Sold
        Pulsar 220 dtsi - Sold
        Yamaha YBX125 - Sold

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          Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

          Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
          I have subscribed for this thread. Soon, I will be coming to the .
          600i for weekend rides ?

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            Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

            What about Yamaha Saluto. I rode the bike and it feels well built.&nbsp;<br><br>It costs about the same as the Victor and at 125 cc has the highest CC in the segment.&nbsp;<br><br>The seat on the Victor is very comfortable and it has a 60W headlight, Pilot lamps and Hazard lights. The mileage is a bit lower. But its got the grunt ... for the segment.&nbsp;
            When I'm on the road, I'm indestructible. No one can stop me... but they try.

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            • #7
              Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

              Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
              600i for weekend rides ?
              Mostly yes. Finding it difficult to use it for office commute, especially in Chennai traffic. So want a no-nonsense, less maintenance bike which can take a beating. Not that I will not maintain it. But that should be my least of priorities. Also, it will help me to save for fuel money for long weekend rides
              R15S - Current
              Honda Dio - Current
              TNT 600i - Sold
              Classic 500 - Sold
              Pulsar 220 dtsi - Sold
              Yamaha YBX125 - Sold

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                Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                Originally posted by Ankey View Post
                Looks like your heart is set on TVS Victor, with disk brakes and alloy wheels.
                It is a great bike, if you like it, go for it.
                If this bike is one time investment, you will be using it daily for years to come, so better buy something that you really like.
                If you want to upgrade in near future, go for something that is most value for money and will give you the most bang out of your buck.
                Its not 1 time investment. I am going to change it after 2 years at max.

                Heart is not set on Victor, its just that TVS reviews are quite impressive, here is one more of TVS phoenix review at xbhp, makes me feel good for TVS. I am looking for practicality here. I was going to buy CT100B because its the cheapest. Nut nothing finally decided yet. Tomorrow I am going to buy one of these.

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                  Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                  Originally posted by arnuld View Post
                  Its not 1 time investment. I am going to change it after 2 years at max.

                  Heart is not set on Victor, its just that TVS reviews are quite impressive, here is one more of TVS phoenix review at xbhp, makes me feel good for TVS. I am looking for practicality here. I was going to buy CT100B because its the cheapest. Nut nothing finally decided yet. Tomorrow I am going to buy one of these.
                  Cool, do let us know what you finally decide. All the best.
                  I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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                    Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                    Originally posted by Ankey View Post
                    Cool, do let us know what you finally decide. All the best.

                    I was wondering if someone with ownership experience of both TVS and Bajaj could share some thoughts

                    And which has more mileage: Platina or CT100B ?
                    Last edited by arnuld; 05-06-2016, 05:24 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                      Originally posted by arnuld View Post
                      I was wondering if someone with ownership experience of both TVS and Bajaj could share some thoughts

                      And which has more mileage: Platina or CT100B ?
                      Well, from what I have heard, Bajaj will give more mileage but the engine is not long lasting. It starts to trouble you after a few years. But since you plan to upgrade, you can go for it.
                      TVS will give a bit low mileage compared to Bajaj, but will last longer.
                      And the resale value of Bajaj is low. you will get more money for TVS than Bajaj when you want to get rid of it.

                      About mileage, I think both will give similar mileage.
                      I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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                      • #12
                        Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                        Same-Pinch

                        I am going through the same search as you are, commuter bike for a period of 2 years, my reason is that I am waiting for the KTM Adventure to release, hence, wanted to get a cheap commuter strictly for city use till it is available

                        I haven't owned any of the bikes you have shortlisted but I have shortlisted the Bajaj CT100B

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                        I kinda find it the best value for money proposition

                        To answer your questions,

                        Question 1: Disc brake are better on these high-mileage+low-power bikes ?
                        Drums do just fine, Discs are good if you're exceeding 60kmph consistently
                        More than the breaks, the tyres will make a bigger difference in braking, not the type as in steel or alloy but the make of the tyre rubber thread and rubber
                        All commuters will come with shoddy tyres
                        Hence, I decided to chose the cheapest commuter so I have some spare amount left if I decide to upgrade the tyres to better quality

                        Plus, even if you take Drum brake, the size of the brake will make a difference
                        Bajaj's Cheapest - CT100B comes with 110mm front and back
                        TVS's Cheapest - TVS Sport comes with 130mm front and 110mm back but is also Rs. 8,000/- costlier than CT100B
                        In the end, it will depend at what speed you plan to commute, will you always push it to its limit of 60 (in which case get bigger brake) or will you ride in a relaxed manner between 40 and 50 (in which case a smaller brake will do)


                        Question 2: Spoke wheels are better than alloy wheels, technically ?
                        Spoke wheels will be sturdier than Alloys but a city commute is not going to break or bend your Alloys unless you meet with an accident
                        But, Spokes are also heavier that reduces the power to weight ratio but you shouldn't be concerned about it on a commuter
                        I personally don't find the price difference between Spoke and Alloy worth it to get an Alloy wheel bike, at the end, its the rubber thread that's more important
                        Drive both, Spoke and Alloy versions and if you don't feel any difference in handling, I'd say save the money and get the Spoke


                        Question 3: What benefit electric start has ? I can kick, I am quite fit for that
                        Initially, Ease of access is the only benefit, kicks work just as good
                        However, if the bike gets old like 4 or 5 years old it might require more than 1 kick if the engine is not maintained, this is where electric start is easier as you just need to keep pressing the starter again and again till the bike starts instead of kicking it again and again
                        If you intend to keep the bike for only 2 years, kick should do just fine


                        Here are my inputs to your shortlisted bikes,

                        1. Bajaj CT100B: Cheapest and VFM with dual spring suspension but it does not has a fuel gauge
                        2. Bajaj Platina: Costlier than CT100B due to Alloy Wheels, Slightly Bigger Tank, Electric Start, has a fuel gauge, rest all is the same (CT100 will be in between CT100B and Platina)
                        3. TVS Sport: Costlier than CT100B due to Alloy Wheel, Bigger Tank, Bigger Rear brake and Electric Start but has single spring suspension but it is adjustable to 5 levels
                        4. TVS victor: Costlier than CT100B due to Alloy Wheel, Disc Brake, Latest Release and Electric Start, but lower on mileage and same tank size as CT100B


                        Technology wise both go neck to neck, Bajaj just has some models priced cheaper than TVS and gives better mileage

                        I didn't even bother researching on Honda or Hero bikes as all their bikes are costlier for no damn reason and I would eventually end up spending more money on a bike in 2 years of time (hoping the KTM Adventure releases by then)

                        All that said, if you are really keen on comfort then look for a bike that has gas charged suspension (monoshock or dualshock doesn't matter), TVS Phoenix and Bajaj Discover range have this type of suspension, both are within your budget and I personally know people who have the Discover series bikes are have stated it is a good suspension and comfortable ride

                        If you are not so keen on comfort then normal coil spring suspension will also work, although I feel the Bajaj's dual coil sping in CT100B and Platina is better than a single coil spring type found in TVS Sport, reason : simple physics, two springs are better than one

                        Best of luck with your search, just make sure to get a detailed breakup of the on-road price from dealers and then compare the bikes with prices

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                        • #13
                          Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                          Ahem! I disagree and beg to differ when it comes to a CT100. I have had my bike for more than 11years now. The engine has never been troublesome. 11 years and 85000kms.

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                            Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                            On platina and TVS Sport- I totally hate the handling of these 2 bikes. If U ignore that, then no probs. I had a TVS star city for 9 years and >80 K kms, never faced any major problem. The new Victor is a great handler in this case. Cant say about CT100, as I havnt rode it. But dont compare it with the older CT100. The new one is very different from the old One. Honestly, if you r looking to sell within 2-3 years, No bike will create any problem within that period. Choose anything U like.
                            HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                            • #15
                              Re: TVS vs Bajaj -- which bike under 60K

                              I request the mods to close this thread. I bought a new bike and have started an ownership thread here

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