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  • karizma-r or the unicorn

    hi friends ,,,,,
    pls help me out

    i ve already booked a zma-r but can cancel it........... and ur suggestion will decide what i should do and not!!!
    so XBHP come to my rescue

    i will be driving in the city as well as off road ........ which will also be crowded ..... so handling comes into picture... sometimes will go on highways
    everyday i read and get confused
    someone told that zma is raw power and is not good in handling like the uni

    pls compare both the bikes on the following basis which are also my requirements in the descending order

    my requirements( all i am talking on comparative basis ):

    1. a.the comfort level of the bike should be very good
    b. the suspensions....... which one is better
    some say monoshocks is just a namesake thing but is actually quite effective only with a pillion.... read below

    2. the handling or the bike should be very good

    3. the bike should be able to go on n on for the day without getting too much heated...... some normal is expected ( heard both are good enuf in this aspect ).

    4. maintenance should be low....... heard hh spare parts are damn costly.... the brake pads are costlier than R1 BRAKE PADS...
    ( but yeah they may not wear out easy ..... i dont know just asking u )
    btw the honda showroom guys were too much arrogant n cheapo types... .as if they own the showroom
    they also told tat honda offers only 4 services free ( is it enuf?? )
    and then 4 paid ones costing rs.1600 each for oil change n servicing

    5. mileage ( please tell both city n highway mileage ).... the hh person told me that u will never get above 25 - 30 .... that also on a new zma ... forget the old one .... needs proper maintenance or will eat petrol like a sbk
    but heard some people in xbhp claiming that they get 35 - 41
    n then some really contradicting

    so please please give ur opinions and compare both bikes on the 5 points please according to u

    i am not creating a brand war..... just asking ur opinions

    one thing i wud like to add is that the suzuki dealer when i went for a test ride told me that unicorn's monoshocks work effectively only when we have a pillion behind ..... even some gsr owner told me this while comparing it with unicorn
    and to my amazement .... during the test ride .... i did find the diff ... the suspension was more better with a pillion rider than i was alone
    though the alone test ride was quite short coz i was not allowed to take the bike far ,,,,, but still i felt a difference ..... i may be wrong .. or some setting may have to be adjusted ..... only unicorn riders can tell me about this........
    also on the zma-r there was a pillion .... and felt quite comfy
    but ur opinion will tell better

    ps: i have test ridden both...... but as u know test rides are not soo long to judge everything ..... and the road was straight n not so crowded .......... so cant comment on handling also........ now its only XBHP that will DECIDE
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    unicorn
    48.91%
    45
    Last edited by outworldly maniac; 05-02-2009, 02:32 AM.
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    • #3
      so fast
      thank you aryan dada
      Hope is a good thing ,
      may be the best of things and
      no good thing ever dies .

      Get busy living or get busy dying .

      - The Shawshank Redemption .

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      • #4
        hey brother why r u not taking other bikes too like ....Apache -RTR....pulsar 150 ..180...200 or etc..Because I think there is huge diffence between the price and other thing between karizma and unicorn!!!!! and do you have any fix budget???????
        life starts at 0 bhp and ends with xbhp

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        • #5
          honda unicorn

          unicorn all the way dude .....best in city and also good in highways ...complete package ..good average of 55 to 60 kms i get around 50 to 55 dues to less driving ...got 65 on highway once ...best in handling ...zma is best in highway but not that good in city !! honda is reliable company ...suzuki could be good option but u rejected it ....my opion honda unicorn ..be a wingrider !!!
          I CaN RiDe mY BiKe WiTh No HanDLebAr$ !!!


          16/7/2005 HONDA ACTIVA
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          • #6
            my requirements( all i am talking on comparative basis ):

            1. a.the comfort level of the bike should be very good
            b. the suspensions....... which one is better
            some say monoshocks is just a namesake thing but is actually quite effective only with a pillion.... read below


            2. the handling or the bike should be very good

            3. the bike should be able to go on n on for the day without getting too much heated...... some normal is expected ( heard both are good enuf in this aspect ).

            4. maintenance should be low....... heard hh spare parts are damn costly.... the brake pads are costlier than R1 BRAKE PADS...
            ( but yeah they may not wear out easy ..... i dont know just asking u )
            btw the honda showroom guys were too much arrogant n cheapo types... .as if they own the showroom
            they also told tat honda offers only 4 services free ( is it enuf?? )
            and then 4 paid ones costing rs.1600 each for oil change n servicing

            5. mileage ( please tell both city n highway mileage ).... the hh person told me that u will never get above 25 - 30 .... that also on a new zma ... forget the old one .... needs proper maintenance or will eat petrol like a sbk
            but heard some people in xbhp claiming that they get 35 - 41
            n then some really contradicting


            ps: i have test ridden both...... but as u know test rides are not soo long to judge everything ..... and the road was straight n not so crowded .......... so cant comment on handling also........ now its only XBHP that will DECIDE

            All the above said points are itty bitty bro. As far as I can see there are only three very important things that should concern you.

            1. The Karizma has a big engine, very unstressed, so you can rip it all day long without any guilt

            2. You can forget about raw power of the Zma blah blah. It is just as easily rideable as any other bike in the market. So don't worry about riding in crowded areas.

            3. Are you able to get the Unicorn without a month or so long waiting period? I've been told by dealers in chennai that it takes two months for delivery of the bike.
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            • #7
              @thread starter: didn't u feel smoothness of unicorn ?? see if u can compromise power of zma over smoothness of unicorn, considering ur requirements...
              6 Speed Cruising >>--->>--->> Flying In Heaven

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              • #8
                The Unicorn's USP is it's butter smooth engine and all-round performance.

                If initial costs, mileage and overall running costs aren't an issue, then my vote goes to the Karizma.

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                • #9
                  Between Uni and Zma, in my opinion... the only thing you should bother about is, mileage and power... if you want better mileage with some (quite some) compromise in power, then Uni... else go for Zma.. I have a Uni and no matter how bad I ride, I get atleast 45kmpl..

                  I got 6 free services and have 3 paid services, which will likely cost me around Rs. 200 + consumables charges, like engine oil, etc..

                  In India, where parking lots and very crowded, it is kinda pain to find space to park and later take out the machine.. so, keep this thing in my mind when buying big bikes..

                  And certainly, running costs will be more in Zma..
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                  • #10
                    any problems in rains brothers coz rains are around...... and uni is telling one month waiting so if i take it will come with rains ....... and the zma is ready but by the time i get ready to rip it apart it will be raining again ......... so please tell me also whether there is problem in rains with the electricals and the engine

                    ps: in addition to this query .... reply to the initial post as well please .
                    Hope is a good thing ,
                    may be the best of things and
                    no good thing ever dies .

                    Get busy living or get busy dying .

                    - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cyclone2k View Post
                      Between Uni and Zma, in my opinion... the only thing you should bother about is, mileage and power... if you want better mileage with some (quite some) compromise in power, then Uni... else go for Zma.. I have a Uni and no matter how bad I ride, I get atleast 45kmpl..

                      I got 6 free services and have 3 paid services, which will likely cost me around Rs. 200 + consumables charges, like engine oil, etc..

                      In India, where parking lots and very crowded, it is kinda pain to find space to park and later take out the machine.. so, keep this thing in my mind when buying big bikes..

                      And certainly, running costs will be more in Zma..
                      thanks bro for the info

                      6 free and here 4 free.... n paid services cost u rs.200 and here it costs rs .1600 DAMN
                      Hope is a good thing ,
                      may be the best of things and
                      no good thing ever dies .

                      Get busy living or get busy dying .

                      - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kushalwagh101 View Post
                        unicorn all the way dude .....best in city and also good in highways ...complete package ..good average of 55 to 60 kms i get around 50 to 55 dues to less driving ...got 65 on highway once ...best in handling ...zma is best in highway but not that good in city !! honda is reliable company ...suzuki could be good option but u rejected it ....my opion honda unicorn ..be a wingrider !!!
                        thanks bro..... but u did not tell anything about my monosuspension doubts

                        Originally posted by akshaye11 View Post
                        hey brother why r u not taking other bikes too like ....Apache -RTR....pulsar 150 ..180...200 or etc..Because I think there is huge diffence between the price and other thing between karizma and unicorn!!!!! and do you have any fix budget???????
                        thanks bro....... well i want a hassle free life ....... i cant stand vibrations at all .... so no no to rtr ... and pulsars.... no way friend ... they arent my cup of tea..... if they get outdates ... they cannot be modified also... even the years old rx can be made a screamer....... and also they are not reliable .... seen many breakdowns .... may be bcoz of their lack of knowledge.... but people here may contradict.. but then they are xbhpians cannot be compared to common masses..... so they know what to do when their pulsar breakdwn,,,, they know their bike well.... i will also but it will take time


                        Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post
                        @thread starter: didn't u feel smoothness of unicorn ?? see if u can compromise power of zma over smoothness of unicorn, considering ur requirements...
                        thanks.....bro as i said.... test rides are small .... but yeah as u say... isint the zma smooth like uni ?? now that somethhing interesting.... i love smooth engines as i said

                        Originally posted by nirvan View Post
                        The Unicorn's USP is it's butter smooth engine and all-round performance.
                        If initial costs, mileage and overall running costs aren't an issue, then my vote goes to the Karizma.
                        thanks bro..... initial costs is ok but the thing shud be VFM..... and also do comment on maintenance in brief please..... that will give me a clear or vivid view
                        Hope is a good thing ,
                        may be the best of things and
                        no good thing ever dies .

                        Get busy living or get busy dying .

                        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                        • #13
                          I am not participating in poll. Karizma is any day better bike than Unicorn. If you can bear the ownership cost and low mileage, go for Karizma. If you want low ownership costs and good mileage, go for unicorn.
                          Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 05-02-2009, 01:23 PM.
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                          • #14
                            honda unicorn

                            no problem dude for unicorn in rains ... i purchased my uni during rains !!!! the tyres r not at all slippery !!!its just perfect ...dont know about zma .... i suggest u wait for one month for unicorn rather than hurrying ....!!!
                            I CaN RiDe mY BiKe WiTh No HanDLebAr$ !!!


                            16/7/2005 HONDA ACTIVA
                            21/8/2008 HONDA UNICORN


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                            • #15
                              about monosuspension well its the best suspension around ....my uncle who has back problem ...took him for ride for some 25 kms with some bumpy roads .....after the ride i ask him did u feel any pain .....he said not at all and for single rider its too good so for pillion also ...u can also adjust the settings as per road quality in ur area !!
                              I CaN RiDe mY BiKe WiTh No HanDLebAr$ !!!


                              16/7/2005 HONDA ACTIVA
                              21/8/2008 HONDA UNICORN


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