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  • #31
    Originally posted by TomSawyer View Post


    Neither does it to me. Just for the change / upgrade to be worthy for its own sake, its got 2B the Uni. You can never go wrong with the Uni & will live your life without regrets.
    Exactly.Buying a bike of the same segment that you have owned already doesn't quite cut it. Though I will admit that the character of both these bikes differs massively. One is a torque monster while the other is an insane cornering tool. Both are absolutely brilliant to ride.
    And Anand sir,the base model of the Gladiator is around 47k as per my knowledge.
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    • #32
      @ nightwing

      I dont know how to justify this upgrade bcoz i m not upgrading just bcoz i want a big bike. I simply want to change this bike bcoz it grown old and need serious repairs.

      so for me its not upgrade its change from one to another. It could be new Discover but it dosen suits my needs now. And for this I test ride HEAT......which I felt good in some areas like gearing,comfort etc. but this bike seems to be less in weight n i doubt its highway performance.

      And for same the reason i m considering gladiator......still need to test ride it.....may be tomorrow and will confirm its price too. And i will see unicorn too.

      As you (nightwing) said it will give less milage if u rev hard......sir i dont like to drive at high speeds. 65 is max. for me & I dont remember any time i got in to drag race. If its emergency then I might rev hard. One day I touched 80 on discover & that was max. for me.

      so pls tell me real performance of Gladiator within 55-65 speed range and 60% highway. I m quite impressed by mouthshut.com reviews of gladiator but dont know reality.
      2004 Bajaj Discover 125
      2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
      2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
      2011 yamaha SZ-R

      Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
      -H.G. Wells

      For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

      Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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      • #33
        Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post

        so pls tell me real performance of Gladiator within 55-65 speed range and 60% highway.
        If its the FE, then expect around 55 kmpl (optimistic)
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        • #34
          sorry dear.....what is FE

          i didnt get what you said
          2004 Bajaj Discover 125
          2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
          2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
          2011 yamaha SZ-R

          Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
          -H.G. Wells

          For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

          Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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          • #35
            Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post
            sorry dear.....what is FE

            i didnt get what you said
            FE = Fuel Efficiency

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            • #36
              Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post
              I dont know how to justify this upgrade bcoz i m not upgrading just bcoz i want a big bike. I simply want to change this bike bcoz it grown old and need serious repairs.

              so for me its not upgrade its change from one to another. It could be new Discover but it dosen suits my needs now. And for this I test ride HEAT......which I felt good in some areas like gearing,comfort etc. but this bike seems to be less in weight n i doubt its highway performance.

              And for same the reason i m considering gladiator......still need to test ride it.....may be tomorrow and will confirm its price too. And i will see unicorn too.

              As you (nightwing) said it will give less milage if u rev hard......sir i dont like to drive at high speeds. 65 is max. for me & I dont remember any time i got in to drag race. If its emergency then I might rev hard. One day I touched 80 on discover & that was max. for me.

              so pls tell me real performance of Gladiator within 55-65 speed range and 60% highway. I m quite impressed by mouthshut.com reviews of gladiator but dont know reality.
              I will still stick to my opinion. At 55-65kmph you can hope for around 50-55kmpl.
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              • #37
                Even I thought for Suzuki GS150R but sales guys told that it will cost u around 59,000 on-road (not a concern)

                @anandsharma : But in your first post you said 45K (ex-showroom) ? If you are clear about your budget, then members would suggest you better.

                OK...How about country's most fuel efficient bike (and smoothest too) ? Glamour PGMFi ? It might cost less than 60K on road and will give the mileage beyond your expectations? 65 kmpl (kind of guaranteed) !!

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                • #38
                  first of all : sorry for the long post,,,, but i think it might help

                  go for the honda unicorn or the gs150r
                  honda unicorn is highly reliable and of low maintainence --- tried n tested
                  sir what is the use of spending some thousands less and getting some less average and hampering your back,,,,,,,,, back once broke will not come back,,i meant if u get serious back ache problems ,,,, they tend to stay
                  n u wud spend more on medicines !!! buy a bike which is comfortable,,, and please at the speed which u ride ,,,, u are bound to get good mileage

                  the gs150r gives terrific mileage according to the owners on this site..
                  specially at the speed which u drive gives good mileage output.... n heard at this speed it gives 50kmpl+ average,,,,,,
                  good smooth engine as well
                  but its a new bike n reliability is not tested
                  but some say it worth taking a gamble

                  i would say go for a bike which gives comfort n a decent mileage
                  my take is on one of the two bikes ,,,, take anyone u like,,,,, somewhat bent on the gs because it gives more mileage
                  getting some less mileage wont hamper ur economy i guess
                  take care of ur health as well
                  so better spend 1-2k more n get one of these bikes

                  still if u find it problematic ,,,, then try some other bikes ,,,,, i would recommend test xcd - 135,,,,,,, xcd-125 is known for its mileage,,, definitely u will always get 60+ ,,,, but xcd would give more comfort i guess because of its gas shocks
                  gladiator i dont know but heard new ones are comfy too


                  ( i would recommend u to ask in the ownership thread of gs150r about mileage if you doubt it and u ll come to know ,,,and mouthshut.com is an overall review site,,,, this is a total biking site ,,,, so trust this more,,,)

                  offtopic:
                  btw did u say it will cost u rs59k .... dont know y cost varies with city n that i live in a costly city
                  Hope is a good thing ,
                  may be the best of things and
                  no good thing ever dies .

                  Get busy living or get busy dying .

                  - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                    Bro that isnt called cruising!

                    Crusing speed is a speed where the bike is unstressed and relaxed , in top gear.
                    yaeh,...i know how much time a splendour takes to cross 60..and that too with a hell of vibrations
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                    • #40
                      @ vipin_s

                      @anandsharma : But in your first post you said 45K (ex-showroom) ? If you are clear about your budget, then members would suggest you better.

                      OK...How about country's most fuel efficient bike (and smoothest too) ? Glamour PGMFi ? It might cost less than 60K on road and will give the mileage beyond your expectations? 65 kmpl (kind of guaranteed) !!

                      Friends I think I already mentioned it that why I said 45,000 first. and now saying that I can spend up to 60,000 even.

                      I know It looks stupid......but first I was considering only Heat and Zeus not other bikes and was hoping 4 owners reviews on them.

                      But as XBHP members giving me advice 4 other bikes as well........and by taking their advice into considrations I think its worthy to spend few more thousands.

                      As far as Glamor is considered I told u my exp. with HH Splendor n after sale services of HH.

                      For Unicorn, my mechanic was telling me that its headlight break down easily n its single rear shocker is not good.

                      One more thing its first time I m interacting on XBHP.......& by looking at ur responses & feedbacks i m elated.

                      so one more time I m reconsidering my needs & want:-

                      Cruising speed :- 55-65 km/h. {60% highway}
                      Mileage I want:- 60-65 km/l.
                      Look of Bike:- dosen matter...it should be robust enough to justify rural Indian roads
                      Durability:- Min. 5 years.
                      Budget:- 60,000 ( I think its enough)
                      My height:- 5,8"
                      Weight 70 kg.
                      Last edited by anandsharma021; 05-13-2009, 12:08 PM.
                      2004 Bajaj Discover 125
                      2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
                      2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
                      2011 yamaha SZ-R

                      Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
                      -H.G. Wells

                      For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

                      Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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                      • #41
                        The Gladiators are giving steady 60 KMPL with 60-70 KMPH cruising and a few KM's patchy roads (mostly with a pillion) near our home town and my uncle wanted me to check if there's a well maintained second hand one available to replace his Crux that finds life difficult to cross 60 KMPH with near to 180 KG's of load.

                        The Suzuki Heat's engine nad build quality is very good. It makes power after 4000 RPM and feels like a 100cc befow that. It gives such 100cc mileage too. After 60 KMPH odd if you twist the throttle it zooms away pretty fast. If you liked this bike and if the Suzuki service is handy enough for you, go for it.

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                        • #42
                          @ Hydbykr

                          Servicing of suzuki is not a problem.

                          I test ride Heat and it feels less in weight as compared to discover 125. Is it suitable for highway.

                          if yes then Its very much suitable for me and for just Rs. 36,000 only. this bike is looking comfortable & sales guys were telling that its mileage is around 65-70.
                          Last edited by anandsharma021; 05-13-2009, 12:43 PM.
                          2004 Bajaj Discover 125
                          2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
                          2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
                          2011 yamaha SZ-R

                          Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
                          -H.G. Wells

                          For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

                          Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post
                            Servicing of suzuki is not a problem.

                            I test ride Heat and it feels less in weight as compared to discover 125. Is it sitable for highway.

                            if yes then Its very much suitable for me and for just Rs. 36,000 only. this bike is looking comfortable & sales guys were telling that its mileage is around 65-70.
                            Yes, the Heat is 110 KGs, Disco 125 is 129 KGs and Disco 135 is 133 KGs. But weight alone doesn't determine a bike's high speed stability and handling. The Zeus is at 114 KGs with the same engine & chasis as the Heat and it doesn't even hint wobbling at 90 KMPH full throttle on a windy highway.

                            The Suzuki 125 engine is a funny one. It has loads of torque to pull at very low speeds without any knocking or jerks - you can pull from like 20 KMPH in 5th gear. It feels like it is underpowered until you hit 4000 RPM. If you ride it like a 100 cc it returns 100cc mileage, if you ride it like a 150 cc it gives you 150cc mileage. Yes, this is true for any bike and the Zeus returns anywhere beteween 40 - 70 KMPL based on how you ride it. This should stick to the Heat as well.

                            The engine is very reliable and smooth. The Heat is specifically made for the rural & semi urban markets to withstand the torture of overloading the bike and bad roads. I believe there's no point in spending 45-55K on other bikes if you have no fuss about the way it looks.

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                            • #44
                              @ hydbiker

                              Thanks hydbiker......to resolve my doubt
                              2004 Bajaj Discover 125
                              2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
                              2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
                              2011 yamaha SZ-R

                              Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
                              -H.G. Wells

                              For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

                              Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post
                                Friends I think I already mentioned it that why I said 45,000 first. and now saying that I can spend up to 60,000 even.

                                I know It looks stupid......but first I was considering only Heat and Zeus not other bikes and was hoping 4 owners reviews on them.

                                But as XBHP members giving me advice 4 other bikes as well........and by taking their advice into considrations I think its worthy to spend few more thousands.

                                As far as Glamor is considered I told u my exp. with HH Splendor n after sale services of HH.

                                For Unicorn, my mechanic was telling me that its headlight break down easily n its single rear shocker is not good.

                                One more thing its first time I m interacting on XBHP.......& by looking at ur responses & feedbacks i m elated.

                                so one more time I m reconsidering my needs & want:-

                                Cruising speed :- 55-65 km/h. {60% highway}
                                Mileage I want:- 60-65 km/l.
                                Look of Bike:- dosen matter...it should be robust enough to justify rural Indian roads
                                Durability:- Min. 5 years.
                                Budget:- 60,000 ( I think its enough)
                                My height:- 5,8"
                                Weight 70 kg.
                                i also tht the same about the rear shocker,,,,, as in the ownership thread n u ll get good responses about it.......

                                anyways
                                i think suzuki gs 150r is good for u
                                go with it
                                Hope is a good thing ,
                                may be the best of things and
                                no good thing ever dies .

                                Get busy living or get busy dying .

                                - The Shawshank Redemption .

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