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**Zapps** · 09-25-2018, 01:49 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by sambit View Post

Pick the RTR 160 4v- Single disc variant. will come around your budget. Much better bike than both the mentioned bikes. If you are hell bent on CSD benefits, then Take the Pulsar 150(twin disc) instead. both RTR & Pulsar 180 have chance of perishing sooner or later.

Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post

Hi zapps,

All motorbikes in India which are bought on and from September 1, 2018 are advised to pay the full five year bike insurance andso the bike prices hiked marginally.
Well a 6000-8000 Rs. ,Hence you can't expect a better motorbike in and around 90K !!!

At price around 1 LAKH , you can consider these:

1.TVS APACHE 160 4V :

Good power, Better FE, refined engine,vibe free, easily manuevarable !!

*BUT Lacks ABS, LED headlight , little bigger turning radius.

2.HONDA CB HORNET 160 R :

ABS, Good stability,Better FE, LED headlight , Refined engine(unicorn engine tuned actually) Bigger Tyres.

* BUT Low power at peak rpm, pillion seat is placed little higher, vibes do exist.

** ACTUALLY These are competitors to YAMAHA Fz and Suzuki Gixxer also can't be omitted.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST :

[emoji298]PULSAR 220F[emoji298]

âś“âś“âś“Ticks all your necessities:

stress free engine , Dual projector headlamps,better feasibility, Spacious seats (same split seats as in pulsar 150,180).

* Price has been increased drastically
On-road 115K ~ and In December 2018 or 2019 We can expect all Pulsar bikes with ABS .[Further prices will increase].

Other options: KARIZMA ZMR (but old bike,no any updates still)

Choose accordingly. !!

My cousin is advising me to get NS200 as it is only few thousands (4-5) more.

**Aswinlogi** · 09-25-2018, 02:26 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by Zapps View Post

My cousin is advising me to get NS200 as it is only few thousands (4-5) more.

OMG , even your wife can't sit in NS200 .

As you have mentioned earlier (rear seat should be comfortable), I'd listed the few bikes above.

NS200 is a good one either but delivers less mileage, and a rear seat is just a nightmare.
*IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PILLION SEAT ,YOU CAN BUY NS200,RS200,D200,R15.

**#bpk** · 09-25-2018, 02:58 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by Zapps View Post

My cousin is advising me to get NS200 as it is only few thousands (4-5) more.

If you want pillion comfort go for xtreme 200 or rtr 160 4v, hornet, xblade. These bikes have a single seat also the pillion seat height is also low, which is an important factor for pillion comfort. If you want pillion comfort+ power+ low fe then go for dominar. If you dont need abs then buy dominar without abs. You can consider yamaha sz rr too.

**Zapps** · 09-25-2018, 03:09 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

If you want pillion comfort go for xtreme 200 or rtr 160 4v, hornet, xblade. These bikes have a single seat also the pillion seat height is also low, which is an important factor for pillion comfort. If you want pillion comfort+ power+ low fe then go for dominar. If you dont need abs then buy dominar without abs. You can consider yamaha sz rr too.

considering SZ RR, even Honda Unicorn 160 could be considered, don't you think?

**#bpk** · 09-25-2018, 03:21 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by Zapps View Post

considering SZ RR, even Honda Unicorn 160 could be considered, don't you think?

Yes, but in honda bikes you'll not get dc electricals, kill switch, and external oil filter( most important feature)

**Zapps** · 09-26-2018, 11:11 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Now, I'm ditching the pillion seat issue, as I would use my wife's Maestro Edge for those scenarios. NS200 seems like a good vfm bike, I'm getting it at 87k ex-showroom. what do you guys say?

**#bpk** · 09-26-2018, 11:41 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by Zapps View Post

Now, I'm ditching the pillion seat issue, as I would use my wife's Maestro Edge for those scenarios. NS200 seems like a good vfm bike, I'm getting it at 87k ex-showroom. what do you guys say?

Awesome, just go for it. Try to get abs version.

**Zapps** · 09-26-2018, 11:49 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

Awesome, just go for it. Try to get abs version.

that'll be out of budget, I'll have to do self ABS lol

**platinaboy** · 09-28-2018, 01:52 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

If pillion seat is not an issue go for apache 160 4v or 200 they are smooth comparing to ns 200

**Zapps** · 10-01-2018, 04:46 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

test rode NS 200 & loved it. I'm still in a dilemma between P220 & NS 200 over FE. But personally, I like the naked look (without fairing) hence instead of P220, I feel like getting P180.

**ayrus** · 10-01-2018, 05:25 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by Zapps View Post

test rode NS 200 & loved it. I'm still in a dilemma between P220 & NS 200 over FE. But personally, I like the naked look (without fairing) hence instead of P220, I feel like getting P180.

Why not try the Apache RTR 160 4v??

Almost as powerful as Pulsar 180, single piece seat for pillion comfort, no vibrations even at 100 kmph and better fuel efficiency.

It can be a lazy commuter (if you want it to be over) under 4k rpm and with a twist of the throttle, it can turn into a proper sportbike with 7k+ revs and no vibes.

**twowheels** · 10-01-2018, 07:03 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Just have a test ride on RTR 160 4v before buying any other bikes. I own an RTR 200 but would not suggest for you considering your budget.

**Zapps** · 10-02-2018, 08:03 PM

Re: Confused between P180 &amp; RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by twowheels View Post

Just have a test ride on RTR 160 4v before buying any other bikes. I own an RTR 200 but would not suggest for you considering your budget.

I can go with RTR 200/160, but what I don't like is - its looks/not suited for long drives/makes lesser power/known to cause wrist pain

Looks wise, it seems to me that they forgot top put on a cowl/visor on 160 - it looks weirdly bald to me.

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Originally posted by ayrus View Post

Why not try the Apache RTR 160 4v??

Almost as powerful as Pulsar 180, single piece seat for pillion comfort, no vibrations even at 100 kmph and better fuel efficiency.

It can be a lazy commuter (if you want it to be over) under 4k rpm and with a twist of the throttle, it can turn into a proper sportbike with 7k+ revs and no vibes.

Did you even see what I wrote there - I'm planning on NS200

**ayrus** · 10-02-2018, 08:33 PM

Re: Confused between P180 &amp; RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

Originally posted by Zapps View Post

I can go with RTR 200/160, but what I don't like is - its looks/not suited for long drives/makes lesser power/known to cause wrist pain

Looks wise, it seems to me that they forgot top put on a cowl/visor on 160 - it looks weirdly bald to me.

Maybe the RTR 200 makes less power but it can do 100 kmph without any signinficant vibes. Even the Hornet 160 feels a bit unrefined after riding the RTR 200. What it loses in power, it makes up in refinement. It can do 100 kmph without breaking a sweat.

I have ridden 1Â˝ hours continuosly and had no wrist pain. (planning for a longer ride in the near future) The riding position is very similar to the NS 200. (or a bit different â€“ it's been very long since I rode a NS 200)
The clutch lever is placed a bit downwards but it is not something that you can't get used to.

Looks are subjective. But it definitely is unlike any other naked bike out there. Initially I didn't like the design (when I started to narrow down on a bike) but slowly I fell in love with it and now I own one. (I liked the v1 more than the current v2 though)

I feel like getting P180.

Did you even see what I wrote there - I'm planning on NS200

It is why I suggested the 160 4v. It is also a good bike which can do 100 kmph and is also more refined. It is unlike any other 160 cc machine out there. It takes a bit of effort to get to 100 but can stay there stays there without any signs of being stressed. (it was my friend's bike and I had promised not to exceed 100 so I stopped with that)

Edit:
Take a TD of both of them. Also check the link in my signature.

**Zapps** · 10-04-2018, 01:07 PM

Re: Confused between P180 & RTR 180 - City + Highway cruise

As per my discussion with P220 & NS200 owners, P220 is well suited for my purpose. It is suggested to be good for city as well as highway use, also it is quite comfy for long drives.

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