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  • #16
    Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

    Wait until 2020 for BS6 to kick in
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    • #17
      Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

      Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
      Being a fellow owner, hearing some else say comfort on an RC390 is such a nice feel that only I can relate to personally
      Loose wrists, bent elbows, relaxed shoulders, firm grip with thighs, and the ample room to move around offered by that brilliant little seat - Isn't that your recipe too? I just love it!

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      • #18
        Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

        Originally posted by ckn View Post
        Yes in south its good because they have HQ and production there itself, its their home turf :-P

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        Quick Update
        Test Drove a Ninja 300 and liked the sitting posture and everything, overall decent experience, only issue ground clearance is very very less.

        Also as per the dealers info, availability was a issue several months back parts taking 30 days to come

        But now slowly things are changing from what he told

        N as per him costs are more than Yamaha by 2-3k

        Again his words not mine

        Would be glad if others can verify this

        There is a handling charge of 16k and overall costs comes to 3.5 Including everything.
        U can also look for Apache rr310 pretty good bike it is

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        • #19
          Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

          Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
          If you are looking for comfort and long distance touring, N300 or the R3 should be your choice. RC is more focussed and committed and not relaxing posture.

          When it comes to cost, N300 OTR is less, but maintenance is high. R3 OTR is high since it's still a CKD and maintenance wise is lesser than N300. I have ridden both, my opinion was R3 was more refined and punchy compared to N3.
          As mentioned before I was very inclined towards R3, but looks wise i don't see much difference between R15 V3 and R3 both look nearly identical which somewhat makes me reluctant towards it. I know performance wise its awesome but look is something I can't ignore. May be the reasoning is not good enough for many, but for me personally i would have loved it if there some bigger differentiation between V3 and R3

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          Originally posted by roy_libran View Post
          Loose wrists, bent elbows, relaxed shoulders, firm grip with thighs, and the ample room to move around offered by that brilliant little seat - Isn't that your recipe too? I just love it!
          Is this all sarcasm?

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          Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post
          Wait until 2020 for BS6 to kick in
          Any major impact?

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          • #20
            Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

            If budget isn't a constraint , then go blindly for R3.

            Better in all aspects (ABS ready) and an interesting fact is , we can ride that beast even in
            60 kmph or 180kmph [MENTION=58089]6th Gear[/MENTION] being a twin cylinder !!!

            RC isn't bad (must accept heat issues) but definitely R3 is the king of this segment.

            Choose wisely

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            • #21
              Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

              Originally posted by ckn View Post
              As mentioned before I was very inclined towards R3, but looks wise i don't see much difference between R15 V3 and R3 both look nearly identical which somewhat makes me reluctant towards it. I know performance wise its awesome but look is something I can't ignore. May be the reasoning is not good enough for many, but for me personally i would have loved it if there some bigger differentiation between V3 and R3

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              Is this all sarcasm?

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              Any major impact?
              R3 looks like hybrid between the R15 v2 and v3 IMO. Anyone except bike nerds will dismiss it for an R15 which means less unwanted attention. It is a good pick if you're ready to spend for it. Buy it before the 2019 model arrives as it will be more track oriented.


              I don't think BS6 will have a major impact.
              Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
              If budget isn't a constraint , then go blindly for R3.

              Better in all aspects (ABS ready) and an interesting fact is , we can ride that beast even in
              60 kmph or 180kmph [MENTION=58089]6th Gear[/MENTION] being a twin cylinder !!!

              RC isn't bad (must accept heat issues) but definitely R3 is the king of this segment.

              Choose wisely
              The RR310 can pull from 40-45 kmph in 6th gear.
              https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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              • #22
                Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                Originally posted by ckn View Post

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                Is this all sarcasm?

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                It isn't! In all sincerity I find it quite a comfortable motorcycle, despite my years.

                Of all the options thrown in on this thread, you can't go wrong with R3, N300, RC390 and RR310.

                R3 is indeed the king of this segment, but pricey.
                RC390 offers the best value overall.
                N300 is reliable and fun too, but then R3 is within striking range.
                RR310 again very high in value terms and to my eyes, the best looking gal!

                Choose any one that appeals to your heart and pocket.

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                • #23
                  Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                  Originally posted by ckn View Post
                  Is this all sarcasm?
                  Originally posted by roy_libran View Post
                  It isn't! In all sincerity I find it quite a comfortable motorcycle, despite my years.
                  Not a sarcasm, that's how you can find and make riding the RC390 comfortable inspite of its aggressive seating posture, even for people who say you can't tour on for long, if you find a proper seating position for your height, you can pretty much conquer all highways.

                  Just the trick is to hold the handles with loose grip, at the 3/4th edges or half way, straight flat back instead of curved back, seated way back in the seat, gripping the tanks, wide and loose shoulders, with this you can pretty much ride non-stop 100kms+ on highways without any of the infamous mentioned wrist numbing and pain, shoulder pain, butt pain etc etc
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                  • #24
                    Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                    Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                    Not a sarcasm, that's how you can find and make riding the RC390 comfortable inspite of its aggressive seating posture, even for people who say you can't tour on for long, if you find a proper seating position for your height, you can pretty much conquer all highways.
                    Someone mentioned this position and said, holding the handlebar should be like one holds the steering wheel in a car.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                      Originally posted by roy_libran View Post
                      R3 is indeed the king of this segment, but pricey.
                      RC390 offers the best value overall.
                      N300 is reliable and fun too, but then R3 is within striking range.
                      RR310 again very high in value terms and to my eyes, the best looking gal!
                      ++Benelli 302r

                      Everyone tends to forget the existence of another fully faired, twin cylinder with ABS, awesome machine in the 300cc. Benelli has one of the best sounding and powerful 300cc engine. Looks are personal, but I like it though.

                      Only that it's not popular due to limited showrooms and transition from DSK to Adishwar etc etc
                      Last edited by kiran2508; 01-10-2019, 01:43 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                        Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                        ++Benelli 302r

                        Everyone tends to forget the existence of another fully faired, twin cylinder with ABS, awesome machine in the 300cc. Benelli has one of the best sounding and powerful 300cc engine. Looks are personal, but I like it though.

                        Only that it's not popular due to limited showrooms and transition from DSK to Adishwar etc etc
                        IMO Benelli would be a terrible choice considering the after sales and service record complemented by the services intervals which are quite often and exorbitantly high. To give you a perspective; in the SBK servicing thread someone put the servicing bill for a Benelli 600i which was a whopping 40k+ for 20k kms service. That's higher than most exotic Europeans.
                        So stay as far away from Benelli as possible. They've put a lot of money for R&D of its sound engineering but the service is horrible.

                        You could go with the newer R3, it doesn't look as sharp as the one we have right now but it'll be different in terms of appearance from the R15 v2/3. Kawasaki is good but availability of parts is always an issue and the service costs are high. But overall a great bike.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                          Originally posted by Purnakalik View Post
                          Benelli would be a terrible choice considering the after sales and service record complemented by the services intervals which are quite often and exorbitantly high ... ... ... but the service is horrible.
                          True, this is all due to they do not have a direct hand in anything, be it sales or service everything is handled by 3rd party tie up India, they don't have a registered office in India, beat that

                          Every other manufacturer atleast have their own subsidiary here in India and have direct hand in both in sales and service, but again with their new tie up and they have promised to invest more here, I hope situation only improves. But their machines are awesome, all only let down by whatever you have mentioned.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                            Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                            True, this is all due to they do not have a direct hand in anything, be it sales or service everything is handled by 3rd party tie up India, they don't have a registered office in India, beat that

                            Every other manufacturer atleast have their own subsidiary here in India and have direct hand in both in sales and service, but again with their new tie up and they have promised to invest more here, I hope situation only improves. But their machines are awesome, all only let down by whatever you have mentioned.
                            That's great if the thread owner won't mind waiting till all the problems Benelli has; dissipates. But if he wants to buy it in a few months then Benelli would not be my pick.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                              From what I read about big bikes, Japs are preferred due to reliability and mass production of bikes as well as parts. While, they say that Europeans are more costly to maintain. How well does this hold true?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Need help And Advice Regarding Selecting 300cc Bike

                                Originally posted by Purnakalik View Post
                                That's great if the thread owner won't mind waiting till all the problems Benelli has; dissipates. But if he wants to buy it in a few months then Benelli would not be my pick.
                                I don't think problems mentioned are going away anytime soon. Its going to take sometime

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                                Originally posted by roy_libran View Post
                                It isn't! In all sincerity I find it quite a comfortable motorcycle, despite my years.

                                Of all the options thrown in on this thread, you can't go wrong with R3, N300, RC390 and RR310.

                                R3 is indeed the king of this segment, but pricey.
                                RC390 offers the best value overall.
                                N300 is reliable and fun too, but then R3 is within striking range.
                                RR310 again very high in value terms and to my eyes, the best looking gal!

                                Choose any one that appeals to your heart and pocket.
                                R3 yes it is logically the best in the segment, but again will wait to see how different is the new one from R15 V3 and then decide. This is my 2nd choice currently. After driving R15 V2 don't want the new one to look remotely similar to first one. Am ready to compromise on few things for the sake of a completely fresh or different look that what i have now.

                                RC390- Tied 1st choice, waiting for any word or update on the 2019 edition if its actually going to be announced by 2019 won't mind waiting after all

                                N300- Tied 1st choice, as per the dealer info servicing is indeed costlier but availability of parts is now less of a headache due to localization of few parts. As per him previously time was 20-30 days now maximum 2 weeks. But then i don't know if its honest statement or not

                                RR310- Last choice, i may sound stupid, but don't want to buy TVS at all. No reason as such. But haven't done TD yet. May be will do a TD even though have no desire to buy it. Just for the heck of it :-P

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                                Originally posted by Zapps View Post
                                From what I read about big bikes, Japs are preferred due to reliability and mass production of bikes as well as parts. While, they say that Europeans are more costly to maintain. How well does this hold true?
                                Don't know about first part
                                But i think second part depends on the network by network i mean service center/dealership, factories, localization etc. It all depends on how much of focus the manufacturer has in the market they are in. I may be wrong

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