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    guys i have been out of the biking scene like 1.5yrs due to some reasons and now will be buying a bike soon was wondering which one to go for most people would would day R15 or 220 etc.. but i was lookin for a four stoke which can be modified for performance.
    i have shortlisted
    R15
    220
    ZMA

    my main concerns is top speed,high speed crusing, problem free n lastly can be engine modded ?


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    • #3
      Originally posted by bikemanic View Post
      guys i have been out of the biking scene like 1.5yrs due to some reasons and now will be buying a bike soon was wondering which one to go for most people would would day R15 or 220 etc.. but i was lookin for a four stoke which can be modified for performance.
      i have shortlisted
      R15
      220
      ZMA

      my main concerns is top speed,high speed crusing, problem free n lastly can be engine modded ?
      Dude,
      If ur looking for Track oriented performance then R15 should be ur first option as it's designed for tracks and modifying an R15 and 220 is not that easy as both has ECU mapping that cant be changed as of now and i dont think so there are guys doing that, so u need to concentrate only on the engine mods like our JOEL did to his R15 and for that some needs serious brains as if u play the game wrong then ur in deep trouble.

      So, the ideal choice would be ZMA which u can start off with some good free flow filters, Upjetting, Iridium plugs, Iginition cables, Quick throttles......etc...etc...
      Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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      • #4
        why four strokes only if i may ask?
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        • #5
          p220 from my side.. its well tech-equipped.. cruises at high speeds well(fits ur need).. mods can be done or not tht i dont kno..
          karizma is an excellent piece but its not been upgraded in a substantial way for long ..
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          • #6
            Originally posted by alkemyst View Post
            p220 from my side.. its well tech-equipped.. cruises at high speeds well(fits ur need).. mods can be done or not tht i dont kno..
            ..
            the above guy already mentioned
            its difficult to mod
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            may be the best of things and
            no good thing ever dies .

            Get busy living or get busy dying .

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            • #7
              @dual disc 200 well i'm not lookin for minor mods i'm lookin for somethin wacky like our fellow member kushanth had done with his zma 170kmph on a zma, i'm concentrating 70%drag bike 30% street capable

              @outworldly maniac no 2strokes cause it's hard to maintain as for 4strokes it's easier even if modded
              Last edited by bikemanic; 06-14-2009, 02:18 AM. Reason: sorry very bad typo

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bikemanic View Post
                @outworldly maniac no four strokes cause they r not hard to maintain if modded also as for 2strokes it's like having a tough time doing that
                samjha nahi!!
                what are you saying ?

                and ........ you cant have both track and street bikes as far as i know
                ofcourse you can have fast street bikes.......

                drags are a different thing altogether........
                they are meant for race and race only
                not commuting or for that matter even touring
                drags only
                Hope is a good thing ,
                may be the best of things and
                no good thing ever dies .

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                • #9
                  @outworldly maniac sorry bro a bad typo, anyways i want it for drag purpose only but want to ride it around the city 2wise a week atleast... wat would you say about kushanth's zma ??? it does 170kmph yet it's street friendly to an extent as far as i know (i maybe wrong)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bikemanic View Post
                    @outworldly maniac sorry bro a bad typo, anyways i want it for drag purpose only but want to ride it around the city 2wise a week atleast... wat would you say about kushanth's zma ??? it does 170kmph yet it's street friendly to an extent as far as i know (i maybe wrong)
                    sorry bro
                    dont know who kushanth is and neither about his zma

                    i dont have deep knowledge of bike tuning etc,,,,,,,,
                    you could refer some expert

                    but one thing i am sure
                    if you use DRAG in the real meaning
                    lemme tell you the properties of drag bikes as far i know
                    1. freaking fast pick up
                    2. do high speeds at any gear
                    i mean figures like 80 kmph in second gear , first gear ( speakly roughly )
                    and how do you expect this kinda bike to be street ride able
                    not possible

                    they have different kinda setting,,,,,,,,,

                    there are some bikes whose piston have holes in them after one , two , etc drag races.......... again how can we use them on street..... some high quality last long.. may be some more kms....... but dont think really long

                    the guy you talking about must have had street porting done on his bike
                    hence its fast........ although i doubt that 170kmph claim....
                    and also never heard of a multipurpose drag and street bike!!

                    ofcourse i am not referring to those monsters RD or rx or tzr which are crazy fast and hence serve drag purpose too..... but lose ofcourse
                    to bikes build specially for drag purpose

                    it seems some has misguided you or you have built some misconceptions

                    lets see what others say.,,,,,.
                    i may be wrong,,,, talking according to what i know
                    Hope is a good thing ,
                    may be the best of things and
                    no good thing ever dies .

                    Get busy living or get busy dying .

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                    • #11
                      ^^ +100 i agree with @outworldly maniac, i too dont know anything about our fellow member kushanth and his ride. The performance mods of Street bikes and Drag bikes are completely different and one has to choose his destination for the mods. If ur not looking into serious drags then u can carry on with street porting and that too u can do it only after ur first run-in period!!!
                      Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

                      The 5 Speed Restoration
                      The Z Restoration


                      /2001 Yamaha Rx 135 5 Speed/ 1999 Yamaha RXZ 135/ 2012 Honda Dio/ ?

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                      • #12
                        strange you guys dont know about kushanth it's the same guys with who's bike joel won the Race to the clouds(nandi hill climb)... yes i think his bike is street ported but does amazing drag timings.

                        Ps: since xBhp has reseted lots of threads have vanished thus you dont know about kushanth

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                        • #13
                          Well.. If you are going for 70% drags, than I would perosnally go for a 220 for short drag. If its a mixture of both, than I wouldnt mind a R15 anytime.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bikemanic View Post
                            guys i have been out of the biking scene like 1.5yrs due to some reasons and now will be buying a bike soon was wondering which one to go for most people would would day R15 or 220 etc.. but i was lookin for a four stoke which can be modified for performance.
                            i have shortlisted
                            R15
                            220
                            ZMA

                            my main concerns is top speed,high speed crusing, problem free n lastly can be engine modded ?

                            Ok ur options are fairly simple, take out the p220 and keep the zma and r15 as your only options. P220 engine platform is bad for serious performance upgrades.

                            zma, lots can be done as i've seen on kushanth's bike but relatively more expensive, plus straight line speed in not complimented by handling on the zma whereas the r15 can take a stage 1 performance upgrade and still offer unmatched handling at high speeds. this aint a theoretical take on things, this is an opinion based on my ride on joel's bike, will post a review on his thread later tonight.

                            i'd say r15 is more economical to mod than the zma, offers stock reliability (reliability is based on the setup run, whether if its for street or for race) and unmatched handling to put all that power to the road. IMO R15 is the way to go. Both the bikes are the same to mod, if u have the right person to do it. In my books there's only person i know who can do it the right way!!

                            Originally posted by bikemanic View Post
                            strange you guys dont know about kushanth it's the same guys with who's bike joel won the Race to the clouds(nandi hill climb)... yes i think his bike is street ported but does amazing drag timings.
                            there's more to kush's bike than calling it a street port, cant divulge all the details here (i think joel or kush had mentioned it before) but that bike is unmatched by any other so called 'performance modded' zma in india. nandi hills 8 sec lead over the 2nd fastest bike is a huge lead, especially in a race, and if i remember correctly with only a few kilos lighter than stock.
                            Last edited by KwokFist; 06-15-2009, 02:03 AM.
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                            • #15
                              @KwokFist the zma has the cc advantage which the r15 cant match

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