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I feel its an ok-ish sort of a price....for a 9 month old r15 with 6k done on the odo

Riaz, an xbhpian, sold his 9-12 month old r15 for 81k.....very recently....


but yeaa second hand prices of r15 might (just 'might') fall a bit after the launch of p220 dtsi....!!!

Moreover, you need not even mention "only r15"......there is no machine which comes close to the sort of riding you plan to do....!

simply awesome.....at corners.....!

To check if the bike has been dropped, ride it and see if it s pulling to sides when on a straight road.

Check if he has completed all his services on time. And i dont think the fairing ll crack up while fixing something.

Also check for alloy bends,rust,etc. Take it to the peak rpms and see if it hits the desired speeds.

Also make sure if he s really going abroad

+1 to that. However, it is very much possible that overtightening of the screws have lead to fairing cracks.
Also, ensure the following:
1. Radiator leaks
2. How the run-in was done
3. FE-this is a clear result of incorrect run-in.
4. Busted oil seals
5. Underbody damages
If the RVMs vibrate too much during start-up&take off, you know the bike was dropped.

FIRST THINGS FIRST
The key should ideally be an OE item. A remade key screws the ignition and other locks more often than not. Check the key for opening petrol tank cap and seat lock as well.

Look closely at the instrumentation. A brand new speedo/tacho for a relatively older bike hints at a major crash

Sit on the bike and take it off the stand. It should feel perfectly balanced. Any imbalance/inclination towards left or right side again relates to some mishap in the past.

TURN THE ENGINE ON
Rev the engine hard once after initial warm-up and listen for any rattles at the upper band of the rev range. The engine should rev freely, without sounding harsh

Decompress the clutch lever and listen for any sounds from the clutch housing
Listen for any sounds from the exhaust which hint at any leakages in the pipe
Check that the handlebars move freely from side to side

HIT THE ROAD




Shift between gears frequently to ensure a reassuring operation. Does each gear slot in perfectly, without getting stuck and making clanking, clattering noises








The increments in speed should be smooth. If you feel any jerks while being in the same gear, there definitely is a problem with the engine, carburetor or the clutch.
Listen to the engine carefully once again before turning it off

I had a test ride on a 220 carb, its darn good, but cannot match for the track performance, hence the R15. But i am not sure how many onwers would sell of their R15 for a 220 carb. More over i love black and not blue.

Humm. let me check it today... not sure how to check about the radiator leaks thought.. will give a feedback soon.

Thats like pulling his tongue literally.. humm. i think 70-75 k under the current situation would be a fair deal for me... what do you say guys ?

Thanks dude, i never thought about the key stuff........
But my pulsar 150 runs on a duplicate key from 05.......not sure with yamaha though....

See, although the general rule says that you lose almost 10-20% as the bike steps out of showroom...

But, there is a less amount of R15's available 2nd hand, and more posers wanting good bike for less cash, which makes this market a seller favourable one.

Someone sold off a 300 kms run R15 for around Rs. 1 Lac something, whereas it costs 1.058 Lacs here, on road ...

So basically, you can offer 70k if you go by the book. and you can always offer extra... I suggest that you make a commitment of 70-75k and then show less interest ... I'm sure he will call you back...

To give you an idea my friend recently bought a blue coloured R15, 1 year old(may,08) 10k kms run for close to 74K, of course this was in Delhi and seller is buying an RE.
btw the bike is in fantastic condition.

Check the service center where the is being serviced, you will get an idea about the bike's service and accidental repair records.

EDIT:-and yeah this price was just before the launch of P220F

Tats right...i have been looking for an R15 for a couple of months,but was actually hell bent towards black colour. Very few blackies in chennai i believe...every where the yammies are painted blue. Fed up of it and started to look for any colour.. we do loose our patience after some time. If this is going to be for complete road use, then i would have bought a new one, but seriously i dont think for practicing in track.

You are right buddy. The New P220 carb does handle very good and takes a lot to offset its balance. Hence its a fair chance that the prices of Second hand R 15 might drop too....Fingers crossed....

Go through the check list as put down by the members here.

I think its a fair enough price. One of my friend's picked up a crashed R15 for 90K from Bangalore which had run about 1000 odd kms and the guy selling it wasnt bothered with the price so gave it off. As the cosmetics were the only parts damaged and he wanted another bike. And the bike was about 3-4 months old. 81K for a 9 month old 6K km run well maintained, no crashes bike sounds like a fair deal. Ask him for 75K and settle for a price which is okay by both.

The fairing on the left or right costs 700-800bucks totally. A crack alone shouldn't justify a steep reduction in pricing. If you dont find another good deal and he wont reduce the price and the bike meets all the criteria mentioned in the check list i would say go ahead. 30K in depreciation in pricing for the R15 is a large amount already and its worth going for it if the bike is in good shape.

If you intend to keep an r15 for track use only then i guess you should look for an r15 going at an even cheaper rate. Or wait a couple of months when the prices fall further when the p220 is available.

Thanks for your input guys. How to check t radiator leaks and damages. Any particular place which is vulnerable..?

its not going to be a complete track use. I wil be using it for normal road use too. T reason i specified as required for track is, i have another bike which completely fits t commuting
category. Twice a month to track, rest wil be for occassional posing.:-) who doesn't

Report after checking the bike

The bike looks OK for a 9 months old one. When looked at closely, the bike has some scratches here and there, no scratches in the tank area.

In the right side of the rear grab , there are indications that the bike has gone in to a slide. i can see scratches due to slide on the silencer too. I mean, the heat shield. The right side mirror shows indications of dropping.

Not too much of rusting. Could just find some due to the differential aeration.

The Bike is under Hypothecation, clear docs available. No faring vibration when the bike is started. Not felt on the frame either, but when i sit in the bike and Rev it, i can feel vibration in the handle and also in the area near my crotch.

Ride report:

When the bike is rolled in first gear around 10~15 Kmph, the fairing gives a short vibration when stuck to that particular speed, it just vibrates.

No flaws regarding handling. The bike shoots starting without and sideway pull. Did a complete 20 mins ride chatting along with the owder. Gear and clutch feel is good.

Good amount of Disk pads left in the front. Rear , not able to see any notch..Pads are gone. Under hard braking, can feel the tuck sound from the Razor cone.

problems Felt :

The engine of the bike is very harsh and sound the same too. Kind of feels over ripped. But couldnt comment that .

Fairing virbrations around 6 ~ 8 K in the 3rd gear is very prominent.

After a short rip of 30 seconds, a weird noise started emanating from the rear of the bike. It is a continuous sound, the sort of one we hear from classic CSZ if the pad are gone. A metallic scratching noise. But not very shrill noise, but a mechanical scratching. ( Edit : Just checked, noise from the rear brake pad since completely worn out )

When checked the bike, i can see chain sleeping on the Stay. The chain is over lubed. The chain tension felt Ok too.

Could find that noise out. By the, are all R 15 engines sound harsh like an RTR ??

I need serious comments on this from R15 owners.

Summary

Looks = OK
electricals = Ok
tyre = OK
Brake pads = front, as good as new,(edit: rear, totaled. New one required )
Handling = R15
Stability = R15
Engine = Harsh
Fairing vibration = A bit in the high end
RVM vibration during running = Didnt notice
Gear / Clutch = OK
Weird continuous metallic scratching noise from rear of the bike after a short 30 sec 3rd gear rip.

Even after ripping, the bike sounded the same way. No harshness when idling