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**dual disc 200** · 10-16-2009, 01:06 PM

fazer is just a tourer only on papers but in reality terribly short geared as Fz with an additional weight of 7 kgs. My choice would be the R15 as it has better handling in all the areas, although there will be a slight lack of power in city traffic, the top end will simply blow you out!

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**JitenMistry** · 10-16-2009, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Shreyas82 View Post

not use it on the highway, but the Fazer is also being touted as a touring bike;

I have R15 from last 2 months

You can use R15 as touring purpose but limited KM, because it has designed for close circuit track, so it could give some pain on long distance touring

For 150 to 250 KM touring, I suggest R15, better pickup, good fun on highway and most importance you can bear wrist pain in this short of time span.

I understand that the Fazer is more of a commuter bike (cosmetically modified FZ-16) and is better for in-city usage;

Is the R-15 easy to handle in the city traffic?

No issue with R15 while city driving, just you need to take extra care of your side viewing mirror.

I have test ridden both the bikes and in my opinion both are good. Cost difference (~30K) is not too much of a problem.

Looking forward to hearing your opinions.

Thanks.

PS: I haven't ride and much information about FAZER, so you can get more info about FAZER from their owner.

**santoosh** · 10-16-2009, 01:21 PM

Cost difference (~30K) is not too much of a problem.
then...

R15 .Can tour well , if u have the ability to adapt .
If fazer has a 200 cc mill , i would have opted fazer over r15 .
150 cc Fazer runs out of breath v easily . 80-85 and the its out of comfort zone

Both machines handle brilliantly , braking is good on both . Oh yeah fazer has a terrible mileage.
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**xionite** · 10-16-2009, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Shreyas82 View Post

not use it on the highway, but the Fazer is also being touted as a touring bike;

being touted as a touring bike???

not really!

Well... this being your main criteria... the R15 scores here... it's much more suited for constant n relatively relaxed 85-90 kmph cruising.

Originally posted by Shreyas82 View Post

Is the R-15 easy to handle in the city traffic?

this one goes to the fazer.

but if ur asking purely if "the R15 is easy to handle in city traffic"...

then yes... it does... tho it does tend to get a bit warm in slow moving traffic...

but yea... it does handle well.

Originally posted by Shreyas82 View Post

I have test ridden both the bikes and in my opinion both are good. Cost difference (~30K) is not too much of a problem.

the R15 wins then.

**Devilpulsarian** · 10-16-2009, 01:49 PM

Go for the R15

It might not be that touring friendly because of its riding posture, but definitely miles better than the impractical Fazer.

If at all you have money limitations, Go for Karizma or P220 DTSi in the same range as Fazer.

If you are keen on buying a Yamaha, better buy any one of the FZ series, which are more agile than the Fazer!

**undergroundrider** · 10-16-2009, 01:51 PM

yea santoosh well said..
fazer has a terrible milleage.. my pal owns a fz16 and it delivers between 30-35 kmpl..
imagine the fz16 burdened with a 7kg fairing to be renamed as fazer.. so u verry well know how much milleage to expect from it..

**niranjanvaidya** · 10-16-2009, 01:56 PM

In my opinion, there is no competition to the R15 when it comes to sibling rivalry; not at least for circuit scratching and general touring too.
The liquid cooled engine is quite efficient to digest whatever you throw at it and rewards you with handling that no other bike can match.

R15 all the way..

**Thunder** · 10-16-2009, 01:57 PM

If ur an Yamaha Lover.....then go for any of these two bikes

But speaking frankly both the bikes are not Meant for Touring.

R15 - Its a Track Bike - ideal for racing - Its seating position will hurt your Back a lot while touring

Fazer - Though as per papers its a Tourer - its a mean City Bike - only for the Front Fairing which blocks the Air - so its been called as a Tourer - but its Short Stroke Engine and gears are also very Short.....nit suitable for Touring

But if you are used to both of the bikes - both can be used for Touring - infact any bike above 100CC in the land can be used for Touring....

But the ideal bike which is good for Touring and a Proven one is ZMA.

**satishg** · 10-16-2009, 02:31 PM

Wish R15 had high rise clipons like ZMR, atleast as an optional extra would have widened its scope as a tourer or track bike or commuter.R15 is good but uses updated tech, so cycle parts can be costly in case of damage .you need to strictly follow the norms during runing in. parts are not available off the shelf, on order basis only.but it is a nice bike i must say.especially the white and yellow one

fazer is a relaxed comfortable tourer with limited scope.easy to maintain. but lacks mileage. it can comfortably cruise at 80 km/hr which is ok considering our road condition and the brakes . it is a looker for sure, wish it had a bigger aircooled engine.

yamaha gives consistent quality and durability , not the case other cheaper alternatives

good luck

**tibby** · 10-16-2009, 02:48 PM

The R15 is built for open roads, & for the racetrack.. For city use, the Fazer would win hands-down, thanks to its torquey nature.. The R15 is not at all bad for riding in traffic, but yes R15 ain't a commuter.. You'll take some time to adjust to its sporty riding posture, but once you adjust, nothing else will do..

& since you would want one for long rides, the R15 will be the one to go for, as it is a high revving bike, & there'll be no comparo with the Fazer when it comes to this..
Hope this helps..

All the Best!

**HydBiker** · 10-16-2009, 03:06 PM

Go buy the Pulsar dude... that's the best. No wonder they sell as much as all the competition put together.

Originally posted by Thunder View Post

R15 - Its a Track Bike - ideal for racing - Its seating position will hurt your Back a lot while touring

One cannot try to sit up right and ride an R15. Get the correct stance and even with a wrecked (recovering from long illness) and over weight body it doesn't hurt anywhere even for a 600 KM ride in 7 hours.

The R15 is pretty comfortable for long rides.

The point is, when you get a horse, you have to ride it like a horse. Cannot keep riding it like how you rode the donkey till then.

Originally posted by satishg View Post

Wish R15 had high rise clipons like ZMR, atleast as an optional extra would have widened its scope as a tourer or track bike or commuter.R15 is good but uses updated tech, so cycle parts can be costly in case of damage .you need to strictly follow the norms during runing in. parts are not available off the shelf, on order basis only.but it is a nice bike i must say.especially the white and yellow one

fazer is a relaxed comfortable tourer with limited scope.easy to maintain. but lacks mileage. it can comfortably cruise at 80 km/hr which is ok considering our road condition and the brakes . it is a looker for sure, wish it had a bigger aircooled engine.

yamaha gives consistent quality and durability , not the case other cheaper alternatives

good luck

The parts of an R15 are not costly when compared to other premium bikes. In fact, many of them they are cheaper but overall it might work out to the same. Also, those parts that are costly are generally those that last longer than in most other premium bikes. Even availability is not that bad.

See, when you have got a horse, you have to feed it Horse food that is more expensive and possibly not as easily available as Donkey food that we are used to.

Premium bikes and exclusivity come at a charge.

As far as Fazer goes, guys please understand that most people do 70-90 KMPH when they tour. Higher speeds than that are only occasional bursts. For that purpose, it definitely fits the bill.

**antz.bin** · 10-16-2009, 03:10 PM

between the two.. definitely R15. Fazer is an overpriced FZ. If budget is a problem go for P220/ZMA/ZMR

**pranay** · 10-16-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by HydBiker View Post

Go buy the Pulsar dude... that's the best. No wonder they sell as much as all the competition put together.

The point is, when you get a horse, you have to ride it like a horse. Cannot keep riding it like how you rode the donkey till then.

Good one, cowboy!

As a tourer, I think the R15 scores over the Fazer because of its superb engine. Fazer has everything nicely setup, except for its engine, which I find under-powered for the highways.

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