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  • #16
    Originally posted by manubhat View Post
    why not add new discover 150cc to your list.It comes in your budget as well.If you are new to biking go for bajaj bikes.they are ruf and tuf bikes and spares are cheaper.

    Is it 150CC bike?What about its mileage and other performance?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by CHETZ View Post
      Is it 150CC bike?What about its mileage and other performance?
      Discover 150 costs the same as a Passion PRO. There is a detailed comparison on http://www.motorids.com . Do check that out.
      Last edited by antz.bin; 06-18-2010, 05:11 PM.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Thunder View Post
        Choose between these two Pulsar 135 else Stunner CBF....
        Both are VFM and has almost all the advanced features......

        If you ask me to Pinpoint between these two......I would blindly go for Pulsar135.......

        Pulsar 135

        More power than Stunner
        Disk brake
        DTSI
        Digital Speedometer

        Stunner

        Better power for its class
        Smoother engine
        Optional Disc brakes
        Now comes with Tachometer too
        absolutely correct this is my suggestion too
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        • #19
          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
          For pure mileage Discover 100 cc

          For style, performance, bullet-proof engine, smooth and refined engine, reliability, and mileage CB Twister. More over, CB Twister's performance is equal or better than some 125cc bikes. You can forget about Stunner, gladiator, and other 125 cc bikes.

          P135 is completely in a different league and outperforms every bike you listed in performance (even many 150cc bikes). But, if you want to keep the bike for long years, there is a risk. Same mileage may not be guaranteed after two years.
          Ravi, don't think Twister's engine is bullet proof bro ) i mean in the real sense.. ) no offense!! Given his weight is 79, don't think Twister is an option.. Flame/Glamour can be safely eliminated.. as far as i know they are not very popular. Your budget seem to rule out P135/Stunner as well..as both of them significantly overshoot the 55k mark and there is a recent price hike, which will add to that. That leaves Disco 100/Disco150/Passion plus/Shine. Personally, I never liked Shine for it's bad top end performance.. but it's good for cities. You can take a ride and decide for yourself. If you are after mileage then Disco100/Passion plus are good bets.. if you need a bit more torque and power then go for Disco150..

          But but but.. if you can stretch your budget.. my suggestion would be P135LS.. coz you can ride a faster bike slower, not the other way around. With sane riding you can always get 60kmpl with P135LS.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Thunder View Post
            Choose between these two Pulsar 135 else Stunner CBF....
            Both are VFM and has almost all the advanced features......

            If you ask me to Pinpoint between these two......I would blindly go for Pulsar135.......

            Pulsar 135

            More power than Stunner
            Disk brake
            DTSI
            Digital Speedometer

            Stunner

            Better power for its class
            Smoother engine
            Optional Disc brakes
            Now comes with Tachometer too
            stunner a VFM?? Bro it is the costliest 125cc now (carb & fi both)
            Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post
            Hey bro,

            Go for 100cc bikes if you want just mileage. But the 125cc bikes these days offer both mileage and adequate perfomance. Pls let us know what mileage you are expecting. Is perfomance a criteria?

            BTW just to brush you up with some info,
            Stunner-Mileage 50+ under normal driving. Costly for a 125cc. But highly reliable(All Hondas are reliable!). Really stunning and sporty looks!

            CB Twister- The best commuter in market now. Highly refined engine compared to other 100cc bikes. Slightly sporty seating. Awesome looks. Mileage should be around 60.

            Shine-A 125cc commuter. Silk smooth engine. Very light bike. Tires are not so good. Mileage 50+. Decent perfomance. Bland sleek looks.
            Honda bikes won't be high on maintainence I guess.

            Passion Pro- Highly reliable. Has that proven engine from splendor. Dated looks. Don't expect the word perfomance to come up here. Mileage will be 65+ confirmed.

            Glamour-My uncle owns the non disc alloy wheel model. Had been riding it for several months. So, acc to my experience....the seating is high but comfortable. Reliable bike. Sounds a little loud. Mileage is on the lower side-45+. Not a hit model so I wouldn't suggest this one.

            P135- Go for it if you are expecting a mix of mileage(55) and perfomance(0-60 in 5.16s). Quality is a notch below the competition but not bad. Looks great! Damn value for money.

            Discover-It has a smooth 100cc engine mated to a 5-speed gearbox. So needless to say, you can expect very good mileage here(say around 70). Peppy perfomance which is adequate for city. Looks like the older siblings. Very small tires!! So bad stability on freeways.

            Flame- Stay away from this one. A big failure model. Many have reported bad mileage. Anyways to be frank, it looks very nice.

            Star Sport- Gives you good mileage(60+) and perfomance is also adequate. Looks very small and tiny but decent looking yet. I always feel this bike suits better to who are lean. Not so stable.

            Gladiator-Very reliable bike(of course, its a yamaha!). Mileage should be 50+ but will definitley go down on thrashing. Performance figures are really good.

            Now let us know your exact requirements and we'll be able to filter the list.
            very well said bro
            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
            Ravi, don't think Twister's engine is bullet proof bro ) i mean in the real sense.. ) no offense!! Given his weight is 79, don't think Twister is an option.. Flame/Glamour can be safely eliminated.. as far as i know they are not very popular. Your budget seem to rule out P135/Stunner as well..as both of them significantly overshoot the 55k mark and there is a recent price hike, which will add to that. That leaves Disco 100/Disco150/Passion plus/Shine. Personally, I never liked Shine for it's bad top end performance.. but it's good for cities. You can take a ride and decide for yourself. If you are after mileage then Disco100/Passion plus are good bets.. if you need a bit more torque and power then go for Disco150..

            But but but.. if you can stretch your budget.. my suggestion would be P135LS.. coz you can ride a faster bike slower, not the other way around. With sane riding you can always get 60kmpl with P135LS.
            The gladiator graffiti (not type RS/SS) also can be added to the list.


            @Thread starter:- As the others have already said each bike has different cons & pros. If you live in bangalore then you can get an gladiator graffiti in less than 54k. The styling may be less but the performance is really good.


            If you want a really VFM then go for a platina 125 or discover150. They are cheap & good (not best although).
            NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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            • #21
              Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
              Ravi, don't think Twister's engine is bullet proof bro ) i mean in the real sense.. ) no offense!! Given his weight is 79, don't think Twister is an option.
              Okay, I got it! P135LS has the bullet proof engine. Is it?

              For 79kgs, you can safely rule out P135 too then.

              BTW, do you think I am a noob here in automobiles? I had enough experience and I know what I am suggesting. Everybody knows what Honda is famous for. If you do not know, better you know it.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                Okay, I got it! P135LS has the bullet proof engine. Is it?

                For 79kgs, you can safely rule out P135 too then.

                BTW, do you think I am a noob here in automobiles? I had enough experience and I know what I am suggesting. Everybody knows what Honda is famous for. If you do not know, better you know it.
                Hey Ravi, chill buddy. he was referring to the real bullets (the one which is shooted from Gun), see his smiley after the comment.. In that case, even i agree that twister is not bullet proof..

                @ topic starter
                Go for Stunner / P135 if your budget permits.. Both are excellent bikes..
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                • #23
                  ^^ Did not expect his perspective that engines will come with bullet proof jackets.

                  Given the TS' needs/limitations, Stunner will be out of list (62k on road). CB Twister though looks puny, once you sit on it, it feels roomy and big. The performance of the CB Twister is close to Stunner in 0-60 figures and is more smoother and vibration free than Stunner's engine. Mileage of 65+ in city meets the major criterion of the tread starter. CB Twister is 57k on road with disc brake and is just 2k above the 55k budget. The quality and reliability of the Honda is an additional big asset. If quality, reliability, and refinement are what the thread starter is looking for, CB Twister would be a better option.

                  In his budget, the other best option would be P135. It is priced quite competitively and is the most VFM bike as of now. Quality, reliability, and refinement not on par with Honda. Given the Bajaj's history, long-term reliability yet needs to be established.

                  If VFM is the main criterion, along with performance and mileage, and if the thread starter likes the roarty engine that vibrates at higher rpms, and if he is willing to take the risk of long-term reliability of Bajaj engines, P135 is the right choice.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    Okay, I got it! P135LS has the bullet proof engine. Is it?

                    For 79kgs, you can safely rule out P135 too then.

                    BTW, do you think I am a noob here in automobiles? I had enough experience and I know what I am suggesting. Everybody knows what Honda is famous for. If you do not know, better you know it.
                    How about some sense of humour?? oh.. i'm damn sure you know what you are talking about.. but not what I am talking about!!!
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

                      In his budget, the other best option would be P135. It is priced quite competitively and is the most VFM bike as of now. Quality, reliability, and refinement not on par with Honda. Given the Bajaj's history, long-term reliability yet needs to be established.

                      If VFM is the main criterion, along with performance and mileage, and if the thread starter likes the roarty engine that vibrates at higher rpms, and if he is willing to take the risk of long-term reliability of Bajaj engines, P135 is the right choice.
                      This is what I don't understand here.. rotary engine that vibrates at higher rpm, so Ravi sir did you drive P135, if so did it vibrate at higher speeds?? It's Stunner which vibrates at higher speeds(not the FI version though, which anyway finds very few takers) what's the risk here in going to P135?? don't try to frighten TS, there are so many pulsars around, so you don't need to prove Pulsar's reliability now.. it's already proven. Go thru P135 thread.. no major problems reported even for the first batch of bikes.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                        This is what I don't understand here.. rotary engine that vibrates at higher rpm, so Ravi sir did you drive P135, if so did it vibrate at higher speeds?? It's Stunner which vibrates at higher speeds(not the FI version though, which anyway finds very few takers) what's the risk here in going to P135?? don't try to frighten TS, there are so many pulsars around, so you don't need to prove Pulsar's reliability now.. it's already proven. Go thru P135 thread.. no major problems reported even for the first batch of bikes.
                        Ravi Sir owns a Stunner FI whose bulletproof engine has already been opened within the 1st year of ownership. So much for the Bulletproof Honda Reliability. The point is.. if you take good care of your vehicle, even Vibgyor Motors will last a decade. If you/SS dont or you are stuck with a lemon, even hondas can die. Also, IMO, the premium Honda charges for longevity is inexplicable. Thats the reason I recommend Suzuki instead of Honda. In TS's case, Bajaj Pulsar 135LS over Honda Stunner Carb.

                        P.S.: Stunner carb wont even reach the speed where a P135 will start vibrating. The 0-100 timing of a stock Stunner carb can easily be measured in Years (instead of seconds) while a P135 can do a true top end of 112kmph(120 on speedo). And to top it all, it IS the best handling, the lightest, the most fuel efficient and the most revolutionary Pulsar ever.

                        P.P.S.: No offends to anyone here.
                        Last edited by antz.bin; 06-20-2010, 11:11 PM.
                        Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                        Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                        Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                          This is what I don't understand here.. rotary engine that vibrates at higher rpm, so Ravi sir did you drive P135, if so did it vibrate at higher speeds?? It's Stunner which vibrates at higher speeds(not the FI version though, which anyway finds very few takers) what's the risk here in going to P135?? don't try to frighten TS, there are so many pulsars around, so you don't need to prove Pulsar's reliability now.. it's already proven. Go thru P135 thread.. no major problems reported even for the first batch of bikes.
                          First learn to read the posts properly, then you can point fingers at. Do not assume things. If you feel "frightened" with my post, better ignore it.

                          "Did I do a comparo of Stunner and P135 in my post?"

                          There are many Bajaj models which were vanished in just two years. If you guarantee that P135 is going to stay around for long years, tell it to the TS.
                          Do not rub your opinions on me.


                          Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                          Ravi Sir owns a Stunner FI whose bulletproof engine has already been opened within the 1st year of ownership. So much for the Bulletproof Honda Reliability. The point is.. if you take good care of your vehicle, even Vibgyor Motors will last a decade. If you/SS dont or you are stuck with a lemon, even hondas can die. Also, IMO, the premium Honda charges for longevity is inexplicable. Thats the reason I recommend Suzuki instead of Honda. In TS's case, Bajaj Pulsar 135LS over Honda Stunner Carb.

                          P.S.: Stunner carb wont even reach the speed where a P135 will start vibrating. The 0-100 timing of a stock Stunner carb can easily be measured in Years (instead of seconds) while a P135 can do a true top end of 112kmph(120 on speedo). And to top it all, it IS the best handling, the lightest, the most fuel efficient and the most revolutionary Pulsar ever.

                          P.P.S.: No offends to anyone here.
                          I can only give you an advice. "Learn to read posts properly."
                          Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 06-20-2010, 11:24 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            First learn to read the posts properly, then you can point fingers at. Do not assume things. If you feel "frightened" with my post, better ignore it.

                            "Did I do a comparo of Stunner and P135 in my post?"

                            I can only give you an advice. "Read posts properly."
                            You did not do a proper comparo and thats what prompted me to. Because comparing Twister with P135 was just lame.

                            Anyways.. why dont you.. for the benefit of the readers, elaborate more on YOUR Stunner's Situation.

                            P.S.: Stop taking all posts showing Honda Shortcomings as Personal Attacks. We are all educated people here trying to give unbiased opinions.
                            Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                            Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                              You did not do a proper comparo and thats what prompted me to. Because comparing Twister with P135 was just lame.

                              Anyways.. why dont you.. for the benefit of the readers, elaborate more on YOUR Stunner's Situation.

                              P.S.: Stop taking all posts showing Honda Shortcomings as Personal Attacks. We are all educated people here trying to give unbiased opinions.
                              If you had read my post well, you would have noticed that I eliminated Stunner because it is priced very high and is well above the TS' budget. CB Twister is one of the options that fits the bill. The other option I suggested is P135. So, it is really stupid to come after me pointing about Stunner's shortcomings or whatever.

                              If the the TS comes with a budget of 62k and Stunner is one of his option, then I would give a proper review of Stunner. If you want to know about my Stunner's case, there is a separate thread for it and you can get every detail in it. I guess, you know how to read.

                              Please do not post without reading the posts properly. It is really stupidity to bring out Stunner into picture as if I have reviewed it in my previous posts and I am not accepting its shortcomings. Please stop knee-jerk reactions.

                              Here, I need to stop responding to posts that do not make sense.
                              Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 06-21-2010, 12:45 AM.
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                              • #30
                                @TS
                                Well, since you want a little of thrill let's rule out the 100cc's.
                                Bro, I would suggest you to go ahead with CB twister if you want a perfect city commuter(stylish at that). It's perfomance figures are close to 125cc bikes and mileage is also good.

                                Or if you want some more thrill then go for the P135 or the new discover 150. P135 has very sporty looks and loads of gadgets. Whereas the D150 looks the same as its sibling but performs like P150 and being light it is pretty much easy to handle. The best part is its price-Rs.46,000(ex-showroom,Mumbai) check the below link....
                                YouTube - Autocar: Bajaj Discovers 150cc!
                                Tour De Thekkady

                                The Return of the KB

                                The Run-in Adventure

                                150cc doing 100+ is great!
                                100cc doing 100+ is awesome!!
                                150cc cornering like hell is great!
                                100cc cornering like hell is awesome!!
                                THAT'S WHY I RIDE A RTZ!!

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