Chennai xBhp Track Day - 22 Feb '09 - The Discussion and Pics thread

[kushanth]

^ i knw wht u r answers are he he

hows karthik ??

[Joel]

I dont know which pic u guys referring to,
Well, this is me on the P220. Dont ask how I felt riding it though

[badriyan]

Yes you are right. I must.

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hehe nice comparo man, but i bet praful knows abt the functionality of the bike more than anyone else. may be i should ask my frnd ganesh who owns the bike to post all the mods that has gone into it.
btw it was one of the best track days i've had in a long time.
@xinfii: thanks for those lovely pics, and for that DAMAGE may be i was looking at the exit
@prafoool: was really nice riding with u man, hope we share the track often here after

[Samyaza]

Alien vs predator

I think that's Joel riding someone else's bike..!!!

That is Joel riding Atul's (Samyaza) 220.

Yeah thats my bike. He came back into the pits and kept wondering and saying 'i dont know whats wrong with the bike'

[pranay]

@xinfii-Superb pictures.Who is the guy on the blue 220 with a KA number plate ...

I think that's Joel riding someone else's bike..!!!

That is Joel riding Atul's (Samyaza) 220.

[pranay]

@Pranay

Im bitten by the track bug You MUST go there once.

Yes you are right. I must.

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[Samyaza]

I think you are referring to the video where rossi gives riding tips around the askari track on a R6. He shows how to trail in the 'rear' brake and 'back the rear' into a corner. Thats an even more advanced technique adopted from super motard racing. I'm not talking about that and its not something you can do on our underpowered indian bikes either. I'm refering to trailing the 'front' brake into the corner, its a more common practice amongst racers and an advanced technique though not quite as advanced as the one you are refering to.

Thats the video I saw but im not talking about that technique. Its called power sliding and used on hairpin turns if i remember correctly. I wouldn't dare to even dream of doing that. I don't know if trailing the front brake was one of the tips but they did mention it somewhere. Anyways, as you said its not for a beginner so I wouldn't be doing it now


@Pranay

Im bitten by the track bug You MUST go there once.

[inder.cool]

@xinfii-Superb pictures.Who is the guy on the blue 220 with a KA number plate and are people on the FZ xBhpians(The one which had both rider & pillion).

I think that's Joel riding someone else's bike..!!!

[Killer]

I've seen that in some Yammy video of Rossi's. I remembered while i was riding on track too but didn't dare try it coz it was done by Rossi after all and it didn't look easy even on video.

I think you are referring to the video where rossi gives riding tips around the askari track on a R6 (http://www.ebike-ridingtips.co.uk/). He shows how to trail in the 'rear' brake and 'back the rear' into a corner. Thats an even more advanced technique adopted from super motard racing. I'm not talking about that and its not something you can do on our underpowered indian bikes either. I'm refering to trailing the 'front' brake into the corner, its a more common practice amongst racers and an advanced technique though not quite as advanced as the one you are refering to.

[pranay]

WOW! Thread building in a rapid pace. Awesome discussions about the racing lines and speeds. Even though first hand experience is way more exciting....this thread is gives the excitement after the track experience. Good job guys. Keep discussin.!

[Samyaza]

Dont worry, its an advanced technique where the rider tapers off the brakes gradually while tipping the bike into the corner. With the front loaded the bikes rake and trail is reduced so it turns in faster. I dont recommend you do this right now. Finish braking early and use the rough patch as a marker to turn in.

I've seen that in some Yammy video of Rossi's. I remembered while i was riding on track too but didn't dare try it coz it was done by Rossi after all and it didn't look easy even on video.

Thanks a lot for the advice Killer.

[Killer]

Trail the brake? I didn't get that sir.

Dont worry, its an advanced technique where the rider tapers off the brakes gradually while tipping the bike into the corner. With the front loaded the bikes rake and trail is reduced so it turns in faster. I dont recommend you do this right now. Finish braking early and use the rough patch as a marker to turn in.

[Samyaza]

I trail the brake upto the apex on this one. You want to 'turn in' just on the inside of the rough patch and then hold a tight line so you dont run wide while exiting.

Trail the brake? I didn't get that sir.

[Killer]

@Killer

At what speeds do you enter C10? You didn't mention in the reference lap. And do you stick to the inside of C10 and then cut across into C11? Because when I enter C10 I do sight seeing! Im completely lost there.

I like that section and its one of my fastest. I go past the flowing right hander just before C10, accelerating to 119kph in 5th (on the speedo) before hard braking and knocking it into 4th for C10. I trail the brake upto the apex on this one. You want to 'turn in' just on the inside of the rough patch and then hold a tight line so you dont run wide while exiting. If you exit around mid-track, thats about right. So you wont really be cutting across for C11, thats just wasting time because the distance is increased.

[Samyaza]

I asked about full throttle, coz I was catching up with you on the straight before the braking points for C8!

Another thing is that you steadily increasing your speed across the sweeping curve while i was keeping it constant. So maybe you were carrying more momentum at the exit of C7 before going full throttle into the straight.

Im just happy i didn't crash