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Old 05-05-2010, 01:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I learnt to ride on a friend's runned down discover. It practically had no brakes at all (almost had a major accident with a truck due to that). Now that I can ride I've come to notice that I'm very comfortable with drum brakes but when I ride a bike equipped with disks, I tend to grab that right lever and the bike jams....This is a really big issue as I do this really really often and there hasn't been even a single time that I've ridden a disc euipped bike and she hasn't brought me down. I can manage braking in straights (when I'm braking to slow down and the road ahead is straight and there are no immediate turns) but every time I'm taking a corner(I tend to lean......I find it rally hard to take a corner without leaning on two wheels), and I want to slow down (maybe I'm going in too fast or I see someone coming from the other side) , I grab that disc brake and the bike and I go down This is a really realy irritating habit and I don't know how to get rid of it Add to that I don't know how to use disc-brake while taking a 90 degree turn and I have the delivery of my bike(R15) scheduled in 9 days. I'm excited about the delivery but at the same time really worried as I have to ride her home for at 10-15 km and I don't know how to take a corner on a disc equipped bike.


Can anyone help me by telling me what is the best way to use disc brakes while cornering(little bit of leaning.....I'm no peg scraper).

PS: I'll be the one bringing her home.......letting a friend who know how to handle discs is NOT an option.
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Parth, first off I would like to mention that you are blowing this way out of proportions. Agreed, there is a HUGE difference between a drum and a disc brake equipped motorcycle, but a little care in using the discs can go a long way in saving you from a certain fall.

I would also like to tell you that during cornering if you brake, and from your words I feel that you tend to panic even, then that is a sure-shot disaster recipe. You do not "brake" during cornering (in the mid-corner). You either scrape off speed while entering the corner or if you DO need to brake mid-corner, then you just do it very gently by tapping the front/ rear brake lever and not grabbing them tightly. A disc brake is far more effective than a drum. So, all I can say is get out of the mentality that it is just the same as a drum brake equipped machine. Just relax, and everything would be absolutely fine. Please note that the R15's brakes is one of the best in the business, and hence take extra precaution while braking (sudden braking, especially). A new set of brakes, just like any new engine needs to break-in too. The bite would eventually increase, and hence the braking power as well.

I feel you are psyched up with this. Just relax, and congratulations for your new bike. Keep us all updated!
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I would also like to tell you that during cornering if you brake, and from your words I feel that you tend to panic even, then that is a sure-shot disaster recipe.
I too feel that.....specially when there's some vehicle coming from the other side. but this is a strange phenomenon.....I don't panic at all while riding my kinetic honda or a drum braked bike...anyways...lets see maybe it's all in the head

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You do not "brake" during cornering (in the mid-corner). You either scrape off speed while entering the corner or if you DO need to brake mid-corner, then you just do it very gently by tapping the front/ rear brake lever and not grabbing them tightly.
I tend to grab....I've learnt on 5 separate occasions that it's bad......1 led to a really nasty fall.....better not to think about that

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Like Aryan said, there isn't that wide a gap between a drum & disc brake.
The R15 too was my first disc enabled bike, but trust me it isn't as punishing as your words suggest.

For starters, use 2 fingers (or max 3) for operating the front brakes. I assume you are using all 4 fingers. Don't panic brake, unless someone suddenly comes in front of your bike, from nowhwere.
While cornering, use the brakes only to slow down (that is if you are carrying too much speed into it). & yes, not to forget, use both brakes in tandem. Using only front will definitely end in a fall. Use 60% front + 40% rear, it really helps in stopping the bike, as well as keeping you firmly seated.
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while leaning use only rear brake . use only 3 fingers and not full hand so u dont grab the lever hard .
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while leaning use only rear brake . use only 3 fingers and not full hand so u dont grab the lever hard .

Thanks for the suggestion guys, I'll do that. Yeah tibby I do keep all 4 fingers on the lever when I brake, I'll try to keep 2 on
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I learnt to ride on a friend's runned down discover. It practically had no brakes at all (almost had a major accident with a truck due to that). Now that I can ride I've come to notice that I'm very comfortable with drum brakes but when I ride a bike equipped with disks, I tend to grab that right lever and the bike jams....This is a really big issue as I do this really really often and there hasn't been even a single time that I've ridden a disc euipped bike and she hasn't brought me down. I can manage braking in straights (when I'm braking to slow down and the road ahead is straight and there are no immediate turns) but every time I'm taking a corner(I tend to lean......I find it rally hard to take a corner without leaning on two wheels), and I want to slow down (maybe I'm going in too fast or I see someone coming from the other side) , I grab that disc brake and the bike and I go down This is a really realy irritating habit and I don't know how to get rid of it Add to that I don't know how to use disc-brake while taking a 90 degree turn and I have the delivery of my bike(R15) scheduled in 9 days. I'm excited about the delivery but at the same time really worried as I have to ride her home for at 10-15 km and I don't know how to take a corner on a disc equipped bike.


Can anyone help me by telling me what is the best way to use disc brakes while cornering(little bit of leaning.....I'm no peg scraper).

PS: I'll be the one bringing her home.......letting a friend who know how to handle discs is NOT an option.
simple,, if ur not able to bring it then get it home delivered



u may not worry abt the disc brakes of any yamaha bike. I hav ridden the fz-16 & gladiator & after their braking performance i was surprised & confused if they were drum brakes. their brakes were gud. after this i came to an conclusion tat the brakes in yamaha bikes r gud & work upon how much pressure u apply. They r not overpowered like the TVS, Bajaj or Honda (personal experience). Its brakes r perfect & u will learn to how much pressure to apply on them in the first 10kms only
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Hi dude,
Apart from the points mentioned above by all the fellow xbhpians i would also like to add that you shld use engine braking especially while entering into a corner. If you are in third downshift to second and then you will gain much better control. I always downshift before entering into a corner so that there is better control. Remember engine braking is smoother and better than abrupt application of disc brakes unless there is an emergency
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You do not "brake" during cornering (in the mid-corner). You either scrape off speed while entering the corner or if you DO need to brake mid-corner, then you just do it very gently by tapping the front/ rear brake lever and not grabbing them tightly.
Simply, yet, great piece of advice; I would've been glad if someone taught me how to apply brakes; I'd had to learn the hard way.
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Apart from the points mentioned above by all the fellow xbhpians i would also like to add that you shld use engine braking especially while entering into a corner. If you are in third downshift to second and then you will gain much better control. I always downshift before entering into a corner so that there is better control. Remember engine braking is smoother and better than abrupt application of disc brakes unless there is an emergency

Does engine braking work while holding the clutch??
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