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Old 06-17-2009, 12:07 PM   #101 (permalink)
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agreed to your point....... n all criticism for Bajaj only...... what other cos. provide...... Bajaj always try to do things differently...... its not like TVS(Apache 160 n then after few years 180) or Hero Honda(sticker jobs) or Honda(Unicorn is here for so many years and then ....... oh Stunner ) or Yamaha(they did good..... but again FZ-16, FZ-S and maybe half-faired FZ)....... did I miss something.......
guys there's no comment from Bajaj side regarding the launch or the specs......

LOL , Yes rightly said.

Some people here have no problems if a rebored version of an other bike (from an other brand) is launched, but when the 220 is upgraded, they crib that they want something "new"! Funny.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:09 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Oh just stop crying for exclusivity. And please do NOT compare bajaj's bike to any other bikes, especially HONDA and HH. If I buy a bajaj bike now and if i sell this one and buy the next edition of the same variant, there are a lot of changes seen in the bike.

Same is not the case with other manufacturers. Especially HH and HONDA
If you buy a next edition of a HH or Honda bike, you will definitely see a change in the bike.......Stickers and red alloys are amazing changes. Ain't they?

Also i don't understand why people here are crying about p220 not being a track tool.
Have they written a R anywhere on the bike? Is it Bajaj Pulsar 220R DTS-FI[old one]??
They themselves say their bikes are city bikes or street bikes. No one from their side ever claimed any bike from their stable to be a track bike.


Please don't talk about innovation and improvement on bajaj bikes by comparing them with HONDA and HH. Honda has way too much money which they put in R&D.They sell bikes in several countries.They are BIG.Bajaj is relatively small but doing damn good.

Pulsar range has evolved superb!compare the classic 180 to the 180UG4.There's so much improvement.
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LOL , Yes rightly said.

Some people here have no problems if a rebored version of an other bike (from an other brand) is launched, but when the 220 is upgraded, they crib that they want something "new"! Funny.
Those are the people who hate bajaj to the core.
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Oh just stop crying for exclusivity. And please do NOT compare bajaj's bike to any other bikes, especially HONDA and HH. If I buy a bajaj bike now and if i sell this one and buy the next edition of the same variant, there are a lot of changes seen in the bike.

Same is not the case with other manufacturers. Especially HH and HONDA
If you buy a next edition of a HH or Honda bike, you will definitely see a change in the bike.......Stickers and red alloys are amazing changes. Ain't they?

Also i don't understand why people here are crying about p220 not being a track tool.
Have they written a R anywhere on the bike? Is it Bajaj Pulsar 220R DTS-FI[old one]??
They themselves say their bikes are city bikes or street bikes. No one from their side ever claimed any bike from their stable to be a track bike.


Please don't talk about innovation and improvement on bajaj bikes by comparing them with HONDA and HH. Honda has way too much money which they put in R&D.They sell bikes in several countries.They are BIG.Bajaj is relatively small but doing damn good.

Pulsar range has evolved superb!compare the classic 180 to the 180UG4.There's so much improvement.
The problem is as inflammable quotes, people still find it hard to digest
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:13 PM   #105 (permalink)
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220 to be carb and priced @ 80k.. Then what about 200 to be a Fi and priced @ 80k news

Its pretty confusing like RTR160 Fi & RTR180carb... I'm pulling my hair out as I can't understand what these companies are onto
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Oh just stop crying for exclusivity. And please do NOT compare bajaj's bike to any other bikes, especially HONDA and HH. If I buy a bajaj bike now and if i sell this one and buy the next edition of the same variant, there are a lot of changes seen in the bike.

Same is not the case with other manufacturers. Especially HH and HONDA
If you buy a next edition of a HH or Honda bike, you will definitely see a change in the bike.......Stickers and red alloys are amazing changes. Ain't they?

Also i don't understand why people here are crying about p220 not being a track tool.
Have they written a R anywhere on the bike? Is it Bajaj Pulsar 220R DTS-FI[old one]??
They themselves say their bikes are city bikes or street bikes. No one from their side ever claimed any bike from their stable to be a track bike.


Please don't talk about innovation and improvement on bajaj bikes by comparing them with HONDA and HH. Honda has way too much money which they put in R&D.They sell bikes in several countries.They are BIG.Bajaj is relatively small but doing damn good.

Pulsar range has evolved superb!compare the classic 180 to the 180UG4.There's so much improvement.



I totally agree with you !!!! bajaj has done a great job !! see guys .... if p220 comes ard 70k and then u call it has the fastest bike made in india !! ... guys every1 will feel the heat.... bajaj is trying to do sometn for all the bike enthusiast..... jus admire it guys !!
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Whoever takes the competition one step ahead is good for us. I don't care if it's Bajaj, Yamaha or TVS.
But, I would definitely be pleased if it's Bajaj or TVS, coz they are OUR (Indian) companies. I hope the new P220 takes the competition one step further!
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East or west for our Country the better bikes has always came from Bajaj and TVS Only......

Yami, Honda - Both are technology wise greater ---- But it is our Two Companies which make bikes - as per the Indians Likes......

Hope we get a VFM 220 this time... and yes with Carb....we can expect a powerful hassle free bike.....

Nothing against any one......No Brand Wars.....................
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Exactly. that's the reason why I respect the RTR so much.
When people say thr RTR is next to the R15 on track handling, I feel proud for TVs as its an Indian company.Same goes for Bajaj.I ain't no fanboy.
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What is this? Checked xbhp yesterday before sleeping, and then now opened the xtacker to see this 14 pages!!

New P220 Ad : "150 posts in 12 hrs... The bike to go for...."

Hmm... 70K x-shwrm price for 140kmph speed, not bad. But hell yes, everyone's going to miss the FI.




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what is going in bajaj mind ????? 2 month back i have purchase pulsar 200 for 78000 in jaipur then 180 with same look launch and now 220 is at 70000 ???? man what is this???????
Sad story there That's the reason I never think of investing in a bajaj



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There IS no requirement for any new thread Satish. Simple enough - smoothness is the key. Heck, I managed to get about 22 kilometres to a litre from a certain 1000cc beast known around the world as the R1!

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I, wonder how much can you extract from my father's passion+ then!


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To the Junta what appeals is what they see and hear, to some of us here all that matters is the real world 'performance' which is again defined in many ways, to each one a different thing. Moving on...

I would be glad to be proved wrong here, but it doesn't make any difference. To me it seems like Bajaj has stopped innovating and prefers taking the easy way out with the minor upgrades and numerous marketing tactics, instead of building a solid product from ground up (read engine platform apart from a solid handling package) that stands up to all the claims made by its manufacturer. Instead of infusing brand loyalty, they seem to ward off the customers by screwing up the little exclusivity they had especially when one is shelling out so much money for a product (with reference to current owners of the pulsar range).
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