Query: FZ-16, RTR or P180? - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

atul_the_rider · 12-10-2008, 02:15 PM

There are whole lot of new offerings available in the market for 150-200 range...but i am finalizing either on FZ16, Apache RTR or P180. However, i am not sure if Pulsar 180 is scheduled for a phase out?

If anyone has an answer to this please let me know.

Aryan · 12-10-2008, 02:22 PM

Topic Approved.

I think a couple of similar threads already exists on this very same lines. I'll try and find those and guide you. Meanwhile, let me approve this thread.

atul_the_rider · 12-10-2008, 02:26 PM

@Aryan: Thanks a lot.

I have read threads related to FZ-16 and RTR both. The only thing i wanted to know was about P180...whether it is on the verge of phase out or not. i searched the net but did not find any info on this...hence thought of posting a query here.

haxor · 12-10-2008, 02:35 PM

dude what are your requirements ..i mean to say that performance important , milegae , comfort , bike for touring? for dragging for powerful engine?

and as i can see fz16 which cost around 74k inr otr i think you can get p200 with that amount of money....
i would prefer apache rtr fi

DriftKingNT · 12-10-2008, 02:43 PM

FZ or RTR Fi.

atul_the_rider · 12-10-2008, 02:44 PM

The purpose of bike:
Mainly city riding and weekend touring (including occasional long rides of around 500 kms).

The requirements:
1. Light on weight and of course on wallet.

2. Good pillion comfort (as I travel with my better half most of the time for long rides)
3. The bike should easliy cross 100-110 kmph mark.

Actually I have test ridden all three. I would have loved to go for Apache RTR but the sitting posture is very crouched for a person like me ( i am only 5 feet tall). Hence left with only 2 choices FZ 16 and P180. Of late I have heard a lot about Yamaha's service centre prob and FZ's mileage is also not upto the mark.
Now the only question remaining is whether P180 is scheduled for a phase out or not? If it is not then I can think about it or else will have to go for FZ-16.

haxor · 12-10-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atul_the_rider

The purpose of bike:
Mainly city riding and weekend touring (including occasional long rides of around 500 kms).

The requirements:
1. Light on weight and of course on wallet.

2. Good pillion comfort (as I travel with my better half most of the time for long rides)
3. The bike should easliy cross 100-110 kmph mark.

Actually I have test ridden all three. I would have loved to go for Apache RTR but the sitting posture is very crouched for a person like me ( i am only 5 feet tall). Hence left with only 2 choices FZ 16 and P180. Of late I have heard a lot about Yamaha's service centre prob and FZ's mileage is also not upto the mark.
Now the only question remaining is whether P180 is scheduled for a phase out or not? If it is not then I can think about it or else will have to go for FZ-16.

friend apache suits the guys who are usually 5-5"10' tall so it'll suit you ..but i would not prefer p180 cuz pulsar is damn common ...but apache rtr fi is light on pocket [mileage] and maintainence cost..and it'll suit my bro is 5"4' and he is riding apache refresh it suits him.. aith his height..

shadez · 12-10-2008, 04:44 PM

@atul: havent heard of a phase out of p180. no official announcements that i am aware of. and its still selling good numbers so i personally dont think it will happen soon.

180 - is good enough bike. its been around long so people know about it anyways. only problem is, its 'common'. but if you can live with it then...
going 100+ 'easily' would be a problem! engine refinement is not that great.

fz16 - this is a good one. new in market so it needs some time to settle down. and best part is that you can handle it good if you are short. i am 5'7 and keeping your foot on ground is easier on fz than 180.
but again, i think pillion comfort would be an issue. just have your better half with you on a test ride.

julianpaul · 12-10-2008, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atul_the_rider

The purpose of bike:
Mainly city riding and weekend touring (including occasional long rides of around 500 kms).

The requirements:
1. Light on weight and of course on wallet.

2. Good pillion comfort (as I travel with my better half most of the time for long rides)
3. The bike should easliy cross 100-110 kmph mark.

Actually I have test ridden all three. I would have loved to go for Apache RTR but the sitting posture is very crouched for a person like me ( i am only 5 feet tall). Hence left with only 2 choices FZ 16 and P180. Of late I have heard a lot about Yamaha's service centre prob and FZ's mileage is also not upto the mark.
Now the only question remaining is whether P180 is scheduled for a phase out or not? If it is not then I can think about it or else will have to go for FZ-16.

I'm short-statured too and found the FZ to be easier to handle when stopped. The rtr and the pulsar are more or less on par but the rtr has a wider seat than the pulsar which is more of a problem for shorter riders. on the move, however, nothing beats the ergos of the rtr.

the rtr is not very comfortable for pillions, the FZ even less, but the pulsar is pretty good in this regard.

anyways, why would you want a pulsar 180 ? the 200 is a much, MUCH more sorted bike both in terms of ergos and refinement.

wrt poor yamaha service, i don't think anything can be worse than tvs. this is in bombay, heard its better down south.

Samarth 619 · 12-10-2008, 04:54 PM

P180 is fine, if gear changing is something you can do repetitively ...

FZ16 may not be quite fun on those weekend rides ... no wind protection, slightly undergeared feeling, etc..

The only problem (if you call it that) is that Pulsar's footrests are not Rear Set /// I feel it may not be a problem for you ...

I get tired on long city commutes - Handlebars are lower, Rear sets are forward! Damn! ... P180's disadvantage!

I drove the 2 bikes (except Fi) & own the Pulsar 180 ...

12-10-2008, 02:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
atul_the_rider Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 30	Query: FZ-16, RTR or P180? There are whole lot of new offerings available in the market for 150-200 range...but i am finalizing either on FZ16, Apache RTR or P180. However, i am not sure if Pulsar 180 is scheduled for a phase out? If anyone has an answer to this please let me know. __________________ Ride fast...ride safe ~ Atul

12-10-2008, 02:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aryan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi/ Shillong Posts: 18,274	Topic Approved. I think a couple of similar threads already exists on this very same lines. I'll try and find those and guide you. Meanwhile, let me approve this thread. __________________ ...in search of that perfect world - My Travel Blog :)

12-10-2008, 02:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
atul_the_rider Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 30	@Aryan: Thanks a lot. I have read threads related to FZ-16 and RTR both. The only thing i wanted to know was about P180...whether it is on the verge of phase out or not. i searched the net but did not find any info on this...hence thought of posting a query here. __________________ Ride fast...ride safe ~ Atul

12-10-2008, 02:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
DriftKingNT YAMARIDER Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aurangabad Posts: 401	FZ or RTR Fi. __________________ Yamaha YZF-R15 is Here

12-10-2008, 02:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
atul_the_rider Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 30	The purpose of bike: Mainly city riding and weekend touring (including occasional long rides of around 500 kms). The requirements: 1. Light on weight and of course on wallet. 2. Good pillion comfort (as I travel with my better half most of the time for long rides) 3. The bike should easliy cross 100-110 kmph mark. Actually I have test ridden all three. I would have loved to go for Apache RTR but the sitting posture is very crouched for a person like me ( i am only 5 feet tall). Hence left with only 2 choices FZ 16 and P180. Of late I have heard a lot about Yamaha's service centre prob and FZ's mileage is also not upto the mark. Now the only question remaining is whether P180 is scheduled for a phase out or not? If it is not then I can think about it or else will have to go for FZ-16. __________________ Ride fast...ride safe ~ Atul

12-10-2008, 04:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
shadez Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 677	@atul: havent heard of a phase out of p180. no official announcements that i am aware of. and its still selling good numbers so i personally dont think it will happen soon. 180 - is good enough bike. its been around long so people know about it anyways. only problem is, its 'common'. but if you can live with it then... going 100+ 'easily' would be a problem! engine refinement is not that great. fz16 - this is a good one. new in market so it needs some time to settle down. and best part is that you can handle it good if you are short. i am 5'7 and keeping your foot on ground is easier on fz than 180. but again, i think pillion comfort would be an issue. just have your better half with you on a test ride. __________________ BIKER ...the thrill and sense of self-fulfilment is obtained from living a little dangerously!

12-10-2008, 04:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Samarth 619 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rajasthan Posts: 2,801	P180 is fine, if gear changing is something you can do repetitively ... FZ16 may not be quite fun on those weekend rides ... no wind protection, slightly undergeared feeling, etc.. The only problem (if you call it that) is that Pulsar's footrests are not Rear Set /// I feel it may not be a problem for you ... I get tired on long city commutes - Handlebars are lower, Rear sets are forward! Damn! ... P180's disadvantage! I drove the 2 bikes (except Fi) & own the Pulsar 180 ... Last edited by Samarth 619; 12-10-2008 at 08:38 PM. Reason: Removed RTR Fi comment... Coz I haven't ridden it. -Samarth

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