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Old 02-10-2010, 10:30 PM   #101 (permalink)
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ZMR looks pretty good.

But the things that made me an owner of p220 are:

1.ZMR cant keep up with a p220 on highways...
(Disappointment is a pain)
2.100 section(BSA SLR like) tire on the rear is pathetic.,especially the zmr got bulky fairing and all.

3.ZMR is pricy.

4.Performance is more important than looks.
5.GSX R 600/750 head lamps and busa's sticker jobe will not make a 223cc 17.6 ps machine so robust.

The build quality is great I must say.But HH copy paste engineers need to read XBHP threads and learn what we need from them.

Or else in the year 2015 they will come up with a new karizma with 18.1 PS and even bulky fairing...
Very good points. You hit the nail on the head.

OT: Heard that Apache RTR 220 is coming soon with 22 bhp.
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+100 to that,also the ZMR weighs 159kgs,also with the absence of liquid cooling a full fairing is a disaster in the long run.The zmr in my opinion is a hybrid of the KARIZMA-R & CBZ xtreme! Also a lot of "HERO HONDA LOVERS" will say that the ZMR is much better but what about the 4 BHP that you miss,performance wise you cant compare the karizma with the pulsar 220
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ZMR looks pretty good.

But the things that made me an owner of p220 are:

1.ZMR cant keep up with a p220 on highways...
(Disappointment is a pain)
2.100 section(BSA SLR like) tire on the rear is pathetic.,especially the zmr got bulky fairing and all.

3.ZMR is pricy.

4.Performance is more important than looks.
5.GSX R 600/750 head lamps and busa's sticker jobe will not make a 223cc 17.6 ps machine so robust.

The build quality is great I must say.But HH copy paste engineers need to read XBHP threads and learn what we need from them.

Or else in the year 2015 they will come up with a new karizma with 18.1 PS and even bulky fairing...

Cant you please shed some light on.....

1) Stability
2) Durability
3) Comfort
4) Number of visits that one would have to do to a mechanic...
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:07 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Very good points. You hit the nail on the head.

OT: Heard that Apache RTR 220 is coming soon with 22 bhp.
Its good to post some competition to bajaj, so that we will get a 23 bhp machine then.
The apache 220 will be a speed king probably... It will win hearts if tvs manages to keep vibs under control.

**>Love the instrumentation cluster on your ZMR
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Cant you please shed some light on.....

1) Stability
2) Durability
3) Comfort
4) Number of visits that one would have to do to a mechanic...
I have never ridden ZMR.

Will say about 220.

1.Stability: Its rock solid on windy highways. Conering is not bad either.
It feels easy for me... I am just 63 Kg.
2.This machine feels built good.I have seen many pulsars maintained good around me.

3.Comfort: one word: amazing..
4.No probs as u expect.


I did not ment that zmr is a bad machine.
In spite of my respect to it i must say... HH need to do something to keep themselves in performance league...
may be begging to honda for a new engine if HH cant make one
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I have never ridden ZMR.

Will say about 220.

1.Stability: Its rock solid on windy highways. Conering is not bad either.
It feels easy for me... I am just 63 Kg.
2.This machine feels built good.I have seen many pulsars maintained good around me.

3.Comfort: one word: amazing..
4.No probs as u expect.


I did not ment that zmr is a bad machine.
In spite of my respect to it i must say... HH need to do something to keep themselves in performance league...
may be begging to honda for a new engine if HH cant make one
so very true bro,the 220 is the machine that demands road presence right now!
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also with the absence of liquid cooling a full fairing is a disaster in the long run.
I beg to defer. There are proper air channeling vents on ZMR. The engine will be durable than its close competitors.

It is not all about 'Power' all the time and a P220 is not leagues ahead of a ZMR. There are other good 'plus' points to ZMR over a P220. ZMR is for those who wants enough power on highway (yes, it has enough power on highway to cruise at 100-100 kmph for whole day).

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The instrumentation in my Avatar pic is not 'ZMR'. It is VFR1200. BTW, I am not the owner of a ZMR yet.
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Please do not take marketing lines used by various manufacturers too seriously

^^fail to understand what road presence has to do with a motorcycle and motorcycling?
it goes well with a custom/cruiser, that is what they are designed for,

if any motorcycle puts a bigger smile than the ones you are considering, you have your answer and someone may prefer a P-135LS over P-150(i would) many would not, so as individuals, see what suits you
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I beg to defer. There are proper air channeling vents on ZMR. The engine will be durable than its close competitors.

It is not all about 'Power' all the time and a P220 is not leagues ahead of a ZMR. There are other good 'plus' points to ZMR over a P220. ZMR is for those who wants enough power on highway (yes, it has enough power on highway to cruise at 100-100 kmph for whole day).



The instrumentation in my Avatar pic is not 'ZMR'. It is VFR1200. BTW, I am not the owner of a ZMR yet.

the p220 dtsi can cruise at 120 constantly too dude...so doesnt the 220 have an edge over zmr over cruising??
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Please do not take marketing lines used by various manufacturers too seriously

^^fail to understand what road presence has to do with a motorcycle and motorcycling?
it goes well with a custom/cruiser, that is what they are designed for,

if any motorcycle puts a bigger smile than the ones you are considering, you have your answer and someone may prefer a P-135LS over P-150(i would) many would not, so as individuals, see what suits you
how many custom cruiser do you actually see on the indian roads which demand AHEM-AHEM "road presence" ?? i am a student of journalism & mass comm,and tv reporting is my forte,shot a review of the zmr vs p220 for my college and i stood 2nd! so,NO MARKETING LINES (atleast from my end)!
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