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  • #46
    Well I had the same kind of crash at almost the same speed of 70kmph.. It was drizzling already and out of stupidity(or what) I started riding fast(around 80kph maybe).. the destination being near and no shelter stimulated this move.. It just started raining heavily when a cow(the Lord's grace) came running to my side.. I could not brake as the road was wet and we would skid.. My Friend(the pillion) started shouting 'morilu.. morilu.. morilu' translating to 'we are going to die now'.. I was helpless and all I could do in the short instant was roll off the throttle.. I hit the cow and for a lapse of time my neural functions seized.. After few seconds later after I had regained consciousness I found myself under the bike, my leg saved from being pieces by the leg-guard.. All I could think about was the damage to the bike and all the thrashing(literally) I was going to get.. Then I ran to my friend.. He had some bruises to his knees and hands.. Obviously he had been in air for a brief moment while I had been sliding along the bike.. I was surprised feeling quite OK myself.. Adrenaline got me fooled until I saw blood gushing from my right elbows.. I didn't have any fracture(and luckily so did my friend) except flesh wounds here and there..


    The things I learned from this experience are:

    1. Danger keeps lurking everywhere and springs upon us in the most unexpected manner.. So its better to be prepared.. The helmet is a must for every ride.. Gloves and other gears could be added simultaneously..

    2. Bike protectors such as leg-guard, crash bungs should be used, no matter how absurd your bike may look.. Not only they protect the chassis and panels, they may save your legs too if you happen to be sliding along with the bike.. Look is not as important as limb.. Right..

    3. When with a pillion, it is always better to ride sensibly.. Since the bike reacts quite differently when with a pillion..

    4. Understand your bike's behavior properly in safe environments before pushing hard..

    5. Learn proper braking techniques..

    I ride hard,but sensibly.. Fast but not reckless.. Life and limbs are still at risk when riding a two wheeler no matter how slow you ride.. But sensible riding avoids many risk, both to the rider's life and mostly to other people's life, no matter at what pace you ride.. Happy riding...!!
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    • #47
      The guy in the video charged into the corner, that's a basic mistake, frankly speaking he had an advantage spot just before he crashed, but he was'nt able to go for it since he'd already maxed out on throttle.

      Here're few of Keith Codes advices.

      1. You go where you look, so always keep you're eyes on the exit point.

      2. “Once the throttle is cracked on, it is rolled on evenly, smoothly, and constantly throughout the remainder of the turn.”
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      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
        Had a crash on thursday 12 jan. I was trying to overtake a bus, the bus slightly moved towards the left so I inturn had to swerve left a bit and the platform was protuding outside on my path, noticed that only before few feet. Had to brake hard and there was loose soil on the road, the wheels got locked and I along with bike fell on the right. The bus zoom passed me just few inches away. Suffered from few scratches on palm, hands and as I was wearing the helmet, the helmet took the impact and few scratches on the visor.
        So, if I understand correctly, you tried to overtake on the left? Of a vehicle as large as a bus, where the driver is going to have visibility problems anyway, and where the vehicle is likely to move left at any time to drop passengers? And you did it without being able to clearly see the route you planned to take? That's not the kind of decision I'd be willing to admit to, myself, especially in a forum labeled "Art of Safe Riding".

        I hope you have since thrown away that helmet, since you say it took an impact. Motorcycle helmets are designed to absorb one solid impact only, and are then unsafe to use.
        Last edited by The Mountain; 02-17-2012, 04:24 PM.
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        • #49
          After crashing twice in the past weekend, I got little bruised now! One on Track (go karting) I kinda ruined the kart to quite an extent. Flipped and took it off the track. And then the next day, while returning from a short trip, a mahindra maxx kinda ran into me. Thank god I was fully geared! I beleive the impact was quite high, coz it had caused me go unconscious at the moment for sometime. After regaining somewhat of my senses, I found, nothing happened. The gears saved me completely! Except the right hand's fingers were all in a bad shape except the thumb. 2 fingers are still sprained now and till yet paining and the other one is in a very bad shape. I myself dunno what happened as after i gained consciousness its bandaged and I hardly feel it except the dried blood inside the bandage. typing is too stressful now.

          The bike survived with nothing serious of a damage. A bent crash guard, a broken indicator and 2 scratches on the new fairing will still make it live. Things are still kind a little fuzzy inside my brains, with somethings I just cant remember, like how I reached home and the entire 1 day after that incident. Is this normal after a crash? I had crashed scores of times in the past but things like this is little uncomfortable now.


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          • #50
            Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
            After crashing twice in the past weekend, I got little bruised now! One on Track (go karting) I kinda ruined the kart to quite an extent. Flipped and took it off the track. And then the next day, while returning from a short trip, a mahindra maxx kinda ran into me. Thank god I was fully geared! I beleive the impact was quite high, coz it had caused me go unconscious at the moment for sometime. After regaining somewhat of my senses, I found, nothing happened. The gears saved me completely! Except the right hand's fingers were all in a bad shape except the thumb. 2 fingers are still sprained now and till yet paining and the other one is in a very bad shape. I myself dunno what happened as after i gained consciousness its bandaged and I hardly feel it except the dried blood inside the bandage. typing is too stressful now.

            The bike survived with nothing serious of a damage. A bent crash guard, a broken indicator and 2 scratches on the new fairing will still make it live. Things are still kind a little fuzzy inside my brains, with somethings I just cant remember, like how I reached home and the entire 1 day after that incident. Is this normal after a crash? I had crashed scores of times in the past but things like this is little uncomfortable now.


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            It seems you've banged your head on impact and have a concussion, best you get it checked out at hospital, trust me it's definitely not something to take lightly. If indeed you did bang your head, you will need to change your helmet.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
              Things are still kind a little fuzzy inside my brains, with somethings I just cant remember, like how I reached home and the entire 1 day after that incident. Is this normal after a crash? I had crashed scores of times in the past but things like this is little uncomfortable now.
              Dunno if its normal, but I've had a similar experience too. I had a crashed. I called my folks and informed that I'm being taken to the hospital. I was conscious when I reached the hospital and had even walked to the bed. I went unconscious after that. Gained consciousness every now and then and kept asking wierd questions to the people around me.
              Well, I don't remember any of these things These have been narrated to me. my memory is totally blank from around half an hour prior to the accident to around 4 hours after it
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              • #52
                accident that results in no more than mild whiplash, might cause the rider of the bike to have no memory of the moments just before the accident due to a brief interruption in the short/long-term memory transfer mechanism.
                and the question remains why do i race?
                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                #overkill is underrated.
                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by stefanm View Post
                  It seems you've banged your head on impact and have a concussion, best you get it checked out at hospital, trust me it's definitely not something to take lightly. If indeed you did bang your head, you will need to change your helmet.

                  Got a checkup done today. they told me to report anything unusual.
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                  • #54
                    Well, here goes mine.

                    Was returning from an overnight drive to Lonavala to Pune, just entered the city to a under construction road with debris and very low light. As this is my regular office going way as well, was comfortable at a good speed.
                    Saw a dog trying/thinking of crossing on the other end of road, i had time, so i slowed down a bit, but then i guessed someone told him or what not, he thought of making it a big day for himself. He rushed across the street and literaly tried to sleep in front of my front wheel.
                    The bike had a right fall and throwed me off, i rolled twice and settled.

                    Was fully geared, and after seeing the scratches on helmet, i wonder what if it had not been there. Though, pinky finger on right hand got fractured and i have my hand gloves make to blame for that. Bought a better one right after.

                    Before that had a good long skid on activa on a rainy day.

                    My study from this one and other near death experieces i had.
                    - Make a choice, you know you have to go down, best out of worst.
                    - After an accident, the next hour or so is very critical, you are in state of rush and thus can manage the scenerio before the effects start to takeover.
                    - Always keep water along.
                    - In regular city rides, helmet, pair of gloves, shoes and a light jacket isn't harming anyone, if you do not like to roam in full gear all the time.
                    point is not to leave body part exposed and layers of cloths always help.
                    - Do not do something if you aren't confident, this isn't a video game.
                    - Braking practice, read the thread on that one, I still see people referring tap braking technique.
                    - Always strap on your helmet.

                    and yes, always help a fellow biker on way, you never know when you would be on the other side.
                    Ride On,
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                    • #55
                      Took a small tumble this Monday in the office parking. While crossing a rumbler strip, gear got stuck and did not engage. I thought there wasn't enough power and gave it some throttle and simultaneously pushed a little with my foot. Halfway through the gear engaged somehow and the bike jerked forward and fell over to the right side. Skidded for a few meters. It was a new bike and i guess i wasn't used to the way it handles/behaves.
                      Learning:
                      1. Wear proper riding gear. Helmet and armored jacked saved my face and torso. Took a bump on the knee because I'd not put on knee guards.
                      2. Whenever you are about to crash, the least you can do is release the throttle, i.e., engine braking.
                      3. Check for signs of injury visually. I felt a slight pain on my knee, but, the pant was neither torn nor had any signs of damage. So, I assumed my knee is fine. About an hour or so later I blacked out for a few seconds on account of blood loss from the knee injury.
                      4. Immediately after the fall, sit back and relax if you are conscious. Adrenaline in the body will make it feel like nothing major has happened. Due to which I walked about 1 km from the parking to my office as I felt fine, but, probably, aggravating the injury.
                      5. Injuries on joints will take more time to heal. Bandage them up tight (not too tight) and try to avoid moving/putting pressure on them.
                      6. Last but not least, visit a doctor ASAP no matter how small/minor the crash was.

                      Ride Safe.

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                      • #56
                        Well i havent had any major crashes in my 4 years of riding but what i have learnt from my few minor crashes and near misses is that
                        1.DONT PANIC, if you are sure to crash then dont try to avoid it, instead embrace it try to get out with as little injuries as possible instead of trying to avoid crashing in a hopeless situation.
                        2. ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS!!! even when you are on highways keep an eye out for jaywalkers, these fools will come in the middle of the road without looking left or right and are the main reason for most bike crashes
                        Is there any law against jaywalking?? my friend recently rammed into a jaywalker, althoug the jaywalker and my friend both escaped with only minor bruises, but my friend had to pay off the local cops to let the matter go coz they started threatening to put up charges against him. Now my question is, If the person was trying to cross the road from a place where there is no zebra crossing then is he or the cops allowed to pressed charges against the rider for ramming into the person??
                        3. Never trust the quality of roads; atleast in India, even the most smoothest of roads have unexpected small patches of bad road embedded in them, always be aware and always lookout for surprises.
                        4. Incase you think you can avoid a crash by trying then let go of the throttle, start applying even pressure on the brakes to slow down and once you are at a comfortable speed just swerve out of the way of the obstacle instead if jamming ur brakes and trying to come to a complete stop because that almost never ends well.
                        Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by sharingan View Post
                          ahh damn!! he fell because he panicked!
                          From what i see, he is not comfortable with that speed at that turn..
                          It must have been his first time with such speed at that turn
                          the speed and entry was ok.. but the problem starts when he stops looking at the inside of the curve and starts to look at the median!! where you look matters a lot.
                          he could have saved the trouble even at the point where he started to apply brakes, if instead of applying brakes, had he looked where he wanted to go and directed his upper body in that direction..

                          I too felt the same. He Panics a little before mid turn and it appears he is not comfortable with the speed and hits the brake ( 03 secs) almost mid corner.

                          I would say its easier with roads that you are used to.

                          I would also say, folks should try these on the tracks or pvt property. We do pay road tax etc but not for this ( lets not compare it with we don't have roads but we pay tax!) Its just not safe, for you and everyone.

                          Thanks for sharing!
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                          • #58
                            I was wondering how to share my crash experience when I came across this thread

                            I crashed my Pulsar 220 on 26th Oct - 7 weeks back. I was on my way to office around 8 am on the WE Highway. At the signal under Kalina flyover, I had a green but traffic was very light and I was the only one approaching the green light. I also wanted to catch the light and I accelerated to about 70.
                            Usually in the mornings people break traffic lights (esp the longer signals - and the Kalina one is long) because traffic is so light. Probably thats why an autorickshaw broke his red light and started crossing the signal from my left. But he didnt check for incoming traffic, just sort of rode on straight. I honked long and hard, expecting him to realize I am coming, and slow down a little so that I could pass in front of him and then he could continue. Only after 2-3 secs had passed and he didnt even bother turning his head that I realized he wasnt going to stop and we are going to crash. I braked, but I couldnt have stopped before him so I still tried to pass him (rather than try to brake hard and crash headlong into the auto). I was down to about 40-50 kmph then and he also probably applied brakes at the last instance, so most of the bike cleared him but my rear wheel and his front mudguard/headlight made contact. The bike went sideways and I was thrown clear. I was on the way to office, so was in formal clothes and the helmet. I landed on my back and slid for a few metres and came to stop with a slight bump into the flyover's pillar. The only thing I remember during the crash was seeing the headlight of the autorickshaw falling down and bouncing on the road like a ball

                            For a moment my entire back hurt as if all of it had been whacked really hard. But in a sec all the smarting vanished and I realized I had a dull pain in my knee and right shoulder. I sat on the road for a min testing my arm and leg movements. All seemed to respond but the right shoulder didnt feel 100%. Passerby's helped me up standup, and the autowalla also stopped and came to help. There was even a traffic policeman there who came to help. The traffic policeguy ensured the autowalla didnt drive off. Someone picked up the bike for me and put in on a stand. It was stuck in a gear and wouldnt start. So I left it on the side of the road and walked to the police station next door with the autowalla and the traffic policeman. The police impounded the licence, papers, his auto permit as well as his auto itself. I was asked to goto the hospital to check on injuries. I couldnt lift even my helmet with my right hand so I knew something was broken. But thankfully it wasnt paining unless I moved the hand or tried to hold something heavy.
                            Later checkup revealed right clavicle (collar bone) neatly snapped in the middle. Only abrasions on knee and right elbow. I was given a brace, a sling and sent home. I went to check on the bike and the traffic guy offered to help me start it. Pushing the bike a little got it out of the gear and it started up. The brake pedal bent and small scratches to the fairing and slightly bent crashguard. Not even an indicator broken. After that I went to the police station but decided not to file an FIR. The police would extort enough from the guy to free his auto and papers for it to be a lesson for him. A friend dropped the bike home in the evening and said it was accelerating hard as always and he didnt feel anything major was wrong apart from the bent brake pedal

                            I had to wear the brace and the sling for 6 weeks. Mobility has come back to the right hand but not fully. Doctor advises one month of physio for full recovery. I still cant lift anything heavy or raise my arm up straight. Its my 4th day today of driving the car to office. Car is pretty easy to manage - but havent touched bike yet. Crank it every two weeks and rev it a little.

                            Learning, well, never race to catch a green light, esp in the mornings when people are more careless. Otherwise I dont think I would have done anything differently. Now impatiently waiting for another month to pass and the shoulder to heal properly before I start riding again

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                            • #59
                              I've had 2 crashes and luckily only one of them got me hurt.

                              It was at ~100kmph, we were jumping the bikes on a long trip over speed breakers and out of the blue a friend in front of me decided to not jump a speedbreaker, but slowly take it.
                              Was my mistake that I didn't look far ahead.. and hence by the time I jumped over the speedbreaker I had two options.
                              1. Crash into my friends bike (about 2 feet ahead)
                              2. Use brakes (in mid air?)

                              So I went with (2) as soon as my front wheel landed.
                              What was next? Did a 90 deg stoppie, landed on the ground face first (thanks to my helmet.. visor broke and saved my face).. then the bike came tumbling onto me.

                              Pretty much tore off right arm my full sleeved thin? jacket.


                              So here are some things after a crash:

                              1. Check if your head took any injury (even if you had helmet.. remove and check) and then rest of the body.
                              2. If you have a pillion, rush to them and calm them down.
                              3. Check pillion's head.. then rest of the body.
                              3.5 If you were involved in crash with someone else, check the opposite party too... try avoiding a roadrage (unless the moron. @%@4^#$@ <-- you know what )
                              4. Move the bike out of the road to a side/corner.
                              5. Rest.. calm your adrenaline rush... meanwhile check if the bike got critical damage or can be driven to nearest service station.
                              6. Drink lots of water .
                              7. If you were lucky to get away with minor crash that didnt break anything or send you to serious hospital care.. celebrate it with a nice dinner/drink later.

                              7. Take some pictures if you have a cam (insurance?)
                              8. Report the crash (insurance?)
                              9.
                              Ride Happy and Return Safe!

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                              • #60
                                I had the first crash on my Oct'12 FZ16 in last December. I was riding at approximately 60kmph when I saw this gold coloured car (MS Dzire/City/Etios) upfront. I pulled up near (saw the middle-aged guy driving) and honked twice, upon which he slammed on his brakes. The only thing I do remember is the car's big backside coming onto my face in a rush of golden colour. Went down, sprawling on to the soil-clad divider side. Everything was just a blur of images. I saw the good driver-uncle racing off NFS style down the road.
                                What happened?
                                I didn't make sure I had the space to recover from a failed overtaking attempt.
                                This nullified all my research, practice and application of Staged Braking, weight shifting.. etc, etc., eccetera.

                                My right big toe had a good part of it's nail torn off, along with tissue. Blood aplenty on the footwear.
                                Both arms earned a good amount of skin-reduction.
                                The ISI helmet proved good enough to leave consciousness in, straggled up onto the divider.

                                The FZ16 miraculously only suffered a bent handle and a scratched muffler.

                                I learned to make sure I had SPACE- to do just about anything- on all my future rides.
                                And the importance of proper kit. Parents sometimes express the view that proper kit will prompt us to be careless. My parents underwent a change!

                                Always make sure you've got SPACE to manoeuvre. A car driver can stand on his brakes, you can't!

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