Re: Scott Aspect 670, My New GREEN Ride!

@ monk
This is the one I bought.


It's a b'Twin, has basic functions like odo, speedo, trip, and time.
No cadence meter



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To be quite honest, a cyclocomp without a cadence meter is quite useless. Using a motorcycling example.

On a motorcycle we don't check the speed as much as we check the rpm. Because the engine needs to be run relaxed, so we keep an eye of the revs. While cycling, your legs are the engine. So most importantly you need to keep a check on your cadence. What speed you maintain is comparatively less important.

Since you already bought it, use it. But I wouldn't be bothered to go to all the trouble to get all that info but no info on cadence.

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As you said, its the same as riding a bike with no tacho. Even I felt it after many people writing about their cadence. But I just want to know what's mine that's all

Fact is that all I wanted to know was how much kilometers I clocked, even speedo didn't matter to me. As I said before I am not cycling for fitness or as exercise. But for the sheer joy of cycling.
I rarely look at the speedo and that too was during my initial rides. I just check at times whether its working or not.

About batt life, How long does your lasts??


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I don't use one. As I can't afford a proper one, and I don't wanna waste money just to know speed, time distance and all that. So can't help you on that.

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If its just to know the speed you better don't buy it, as its just a waste.
The cycle costs 24,500 for me
Thank you for the link, never thought of looking the ad in you tube, mine was a front suspension only, not the FST.



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24,500? You mean to say 2450 right?

Yeah, I'm not gonna buy a 1000 rupees gadget for my bicycle which I got second hand for 700 rupees

BTW what's the difference between a geared and non geared bicycle, I mean from the comfort and performance perspective. I never rode a geared bicycle and I'm curious, since you rode both type of bicycles you would be the best person to answer my query.

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Nope, he means 24500. Cycles are expensive.

The main difference between a single speed and a multi geared bike, is the effort while pedalling on climbs and descents.

On a single speed like yours, you cannot maintain the same RPM on a climb, flat and descent. You will be free wheeling while descending, cruising on the flat and walking uphill!!!

On a multi geared bike, you can change gears to keep a more or less constant RPM irrespective of the terrain.

End result is continuous usage of a single speed might damage your knees due to over stressing while climbing, while you will be saved from that in a multi speed.

Imagine riding a motorcycle for 100 kms only on first gear and having the luxury of using all 5 gears to cover the same distance. Which of the two will keep the engine more relaxed???

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yes its true, why should we play pranks with you especially about the price.
Cycles and their parts are expensive since most of the cycles are not made here. They have to be imported. Our dear government has increased the excise duty to 30% in the last budget. I don't know why they have to something like a cycle which run by human power. I am of the opinion that the the duty should be reduced, so that more people can enjoy cycling. Its the price that's preventing many, to buy a good cycle. Even my cycle is an entry level bike according to the standards abroad.
Maybe the government is trying to help the local bike companies but these local bike companies are doing nothing, i think they dont want to invest huge amount in high end cycles, same like what we see about scooters and bikes.
If am right Track and trail is a venture by TI cycles, which brings all the imported cycles to India. Even Firefox is doing the same by bringing Trek cycles.
Just check out this and this to get a glimpse of cycles available

If the terrain you are riding is flat there is not much use of a geared cycle. Before i used to ride a single speeder and the place i lived was plains. so geared bike didn't have much of a use. The disadvantage of single speed bike in plains is your top speed is affected as you cant increase the pedaling more than a certain RPM as Monk has told before. Apart from that a single speeder is fine for flat terrain. Injury to the knee is the result of the stress you give to knees by pedaling hard.
On climbs you pedal hard for the torque required to move the wheels. So in a geared bike this torque (Hard pedaling) is effectively reduced by the low gear. So that you can pedal as if you are riding on plains. Its same like a bike moving in first gear, you pedal the same as you ride on plains ( though you may pedal as you do on plains the speed you achieve in plains will not be there) but the cycle will slowly climb with less effort.
Hope this clears your doubt about gearing

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60,000 rupees for a bicycle is still unbelievable to me. One could get a good motorcycle at that price, to me it feel really weird. You could have gotten a cheaper bike and saved a lot of money, anyway I guess it's something related to one's passion, so money doesn't matter. I for one would buy a motorcycle if I get that much money. Funny thing, when you have the money, you can't seem to find a good used bike; when you do find one, the money is already spent on something else.

There are some high areas where I usually ride and it takes some good effort to climb them, I guess a geared bike will make it a pleasure to ride. They seem to be expensive so I'll stick with an ungeared one for now. Thanks for clearing my doubt about geared bikes Monk and rxdude, I'm glad cyclists like you are present on xBhp.

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[MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION]
Respected Monk!!!


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What is this post all about sirjee!! I am Old Monk

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I did a 80 KMS ride on the bike(to and fro)of which 20 KMS was just climb. Took more than 3 hours for the climb itself. Will post a detailed write up later. The ride was good
Just sitting and reading is very easy unless you be there in the situation to know. While climbing I thought about your ride
Now i can very well understand your spiti climb and how it was.
Hats off to the rider and the rider spirit in you.
Now you might have understood why i addressed you RESPECTED MONK! and i really mean it.

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After I rode up to Spiti, I realized the real joy of cycling is climbing. The sense of satisfaction one gets when you crest the hill is incomprehensible!

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Why I hate flying mudguards??
They are of least help when it comes to the muck and water. They may look stylish and give that macho look for the MTB but is crippled in function.
Cleaning of the derailleur is a headache. So I am in favour of full mudguards.
Those who want self protection only can use the one that is attached to the seat post or the 3/4th styled mudguards.


This DIY is for somebody who wants to fit a full size conventional mudguards on their MTB, for someone who will appreciate function rather than fashion.


Cost

• Mudguards, nut bolts and stay-- -250
• 2 Clamps ----30 INR
• One stay became useless because of a bad design, so bought another for--- 20 INR
• 5 Allen key Bolts -----30 INR
• Labour cost------0

Total cost for the DIY - 320 INR

The mudguards I used are local made ones and the quality is average. The gauge of metal used is thin, paint is equally poor with just one coat of some black enamel paint. The paint peels of at the slightest nick. But one good thing about this is i can paint it later to my own favourite colour.

Though the metal is thin and a little flimsy once all the bolts and stays are secured it doesn't rattle at all.
The mudguard could have been a little more broader so that some free space is left side ways. Now the clearances are just adequate.

Advantages

• Easy to do
• Removal of wheel, either the front or back is not required.
• Cheap alternative to costly imported ones
• These serve the purpose very well.
• Even cycles without holes or eyelets for mudguard can fix one.

Disadvantage
Aesthetically may not appeal to everybody as there is a clamp on the suspension.

Tools and components required

Components

• set of full mudguards that suits 26' wheels,Front and rear
• 2 Stays for front and rear
• Allen key bolts or normal bolts according to the size of the thread on the frame. This is considering that your bike has thread on the frame to attach racks or mudguards

For me it required a total of

• [*=1]2 Allen key bolts for the rear stay to attach to the frame and
  [*=1]Two hex bolts for attaching to the bottom bracket and seat stay.
• For mudguard stay get 2 bolts when you buy it.
• Clamps for clipping the front mudguard stay to the suspension (you can get it easily from spares parts shop)
• Piece of old tube, preferably of cars or other heavy vehicles as they are a little thicker than cycle tube.
• Adhesive. Get something like Fevibond and not superglue.
• Clamp to attach to the seat stay. I bought a clamp which holds the stays to the rear mudguard on hero cycles
• X ray film (optional)
• RX 100 rear flap(optional)

Tools

• Hammer
• Screw driver
• Nose pliers
• Allen key
• A thick piece of wood
• Drill (good to have one) or some sharp nail to make holes on mudguard.

Its better that you take the bike along when you go to buy the mudguard for a better fit. I didn't do it, just asked for 26' MTB mudguards.

1 First step is to try the mudguards on the cycle.






Once you feel everything is right ,Then get ready with the clamps, bolts and the stays.






The original stays are designed to attach to the hub axle, so the eyelets diameter is large.
See the eyelet




2 Open up the eyelet using a nose pliers(its the difficult part) or hammer in, 2 nails on a wooden plank and by engaging the eyelet between these nails you can open up the eyelet.




Once its opened cut the excess with a hack saw and again bend it back to the desired diameter (size should be such that your bolt should be able to pass through it) by hammering it on a wooden plank.



3 Now get the clamp and make a 90 degree bend on it. Keep the mudguard on the wheel and determine the position to make the hole. Mark the point and drill through the hole either using a power driller or by hammering a sharp nail.Bolt the clamp on the mudguard



4 Attach the rear stay to the mudguard



5 Once you try to bolt everything you may find the length of the stay is excess and there is unnecessary gap between the tyre and the mudguard. Bend the stays, on either sides downwards to an angulation to take up the excess length.


For the Front mudguard
1 Keep the mudguard on the cycle and determine the length of the stays.
2 Cut the stay at the desired length, keeping an extra 1 inch. The extra one inch is to make a bend, not 90 degree but at a slight obtuse angle or at the same angle of the suspension.
3 Check the stays and once its correct bolt the stays to mudguard.
4 Now take the clamp make a ditch or groove like pattern on the clamp with a nose pliers so that the stay can be secured in the groove.



5 cut a piece of tube into a strip that equals to the width of the clamp. Sticking the tube strip with Fevibond to the clamp will helps for a tight snuggle fit without damaging the paint finish of the fork.


6 Bolt the upper clamp on the fork brace on top.




7 Open the clamp and pass it around the fork tube and screw it. Now take the stay end and insert it between the tube and clamp so that when tightened the stay is secured tightly to the tube and not touching the fork directly.



To protect the front derailleurs, I cut a small piece of x ray film and taped it to the front end of the rear mudguard like this. Believe me these two small steps can very much decrease the mud and water reaching the Bottom bracket area.





A few pictures
















Now all i have to do is to paint so that everything looks neat!!

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Riding in rain has taken its toll on the cycle. Is it the build quality or that I didn't care?? I am not sure.
But I can say I took care of the cycle better than my old Rockshox.
I noticed there was something wrong from the metal grating sound from the rear hub. I suspected rust but at the same time thought, it will be hard for water to get as the hub has a dust cover.
I couldn't inspect myself as I didn't had the tool to remove the cassette. So I ended up removing the rear wheel, took it to the city shop, from where I bought the cycle.
The mechanic removed the cassette, and opened the hub. Though I suspected rust, to my amazement there was a mix of water and rust, all the balls had rusted. He changed the balls, re greased and the cycle is fine. Back home, I myself dismantled the front hub. The situation was same, changed all the balls and re greased.



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