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Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS: Long Term Test Review
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Engine seizing and busted valves are a serious issue if reported correctly. I guess until and unless workmanship and the quality of the product are not improved, no matter what Bajaj comes out with, it will still feel the same. All pulsars from the first Pulsar launched till the 220 had vibey engines, noisy gearboxes and bad part quality. Have these issues been sorted out correctly? Riding pleasure was something that all the pulsars lacked.Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
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I cannot comment on anything else as my experience with KTM is limited to ~700kms only. Coolant leakage most of the times is not the actual leakage, if while filling coolant the air is bleeded out properly then there is a possibility of coolant overflowing once the engine becomes hot.Originally posted by chinmayakar View PostThanks MG for the article. However, I have been going through other sites as well like Teambhp. There are reported incidents of KTM's engine seizing, busted valves, leaking radiator coolant, leaking front Suspension, poor workmanship (read loose bolts ). That does worry me as both P200NS and KTM share the same block and gearbox and are manufactured in the same plant. Also, KTM being priced and positioned higher it keeps me guessing how come Bajaj did not test KTM as extensively as they are testing 200NS.
P220 to P200NS is not a serious upgrade. Yes NS is a much better bike and is quicker and I could easily spot the difference if I ride my P220 back to back after P200NS, the P220 easily feels a 5year old productOriginally posted by chinmayakar View PostI was thinking to move on to P200NS from my P220, however after reading about issues with KTM I think it is best to wait for a year atleast for Bajaj to iron out issues if there are any.
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@Rohan : AS MG sir cleared the doubt, P 200 NS' top speed is around 136-138 KMPH. However, what MG sir said is, it doesn't matter what the top speed is, all that matters is how well you can reach there. Ofcourse being a naked bike and weighing around 5-6 kilos less than P220 should/would/could make it less stable than P220 post 120-125 KMPH as again rightly pointed out in the review.Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Postthank you so much for clearing my doubts ...
the p220 has a true top speed in mid 130s .. so how much do you think would be the true top speed of ns ?
Transformer Yellow - I guess that should be the name Bajaj should use.Originally posted by Debashish View PostA very well written review. Enjoyed reading it all. And the awesome photographs were like icing on the cake.
200NS in yellow. My first thoughts were - That must be bumblebee's 2 wheeled avatar. I really liked the color and would like Bajaj to officially name it as "Transformer Yellow".
I am not a big fan of either red or blue, so it will be either my fav Black or the new Transformer Yellow or Bumble-Yellow.
The pics were a cake for me and the writing is the sweet, non sugary, smooth, cream for me..
@Shravan : ripping for MG sir is red lining, proper abuse to test the limits. Per the long term ownership review put up fantastaliciously by @MG sir, it holds its components very well. The new engine, the new gearbox are a gem! Now, that's what I call a dhansu bike. 7-7.5 K will take you up 110 KMPH and it has no stress to show. That speaks for itself mate. As for the mileage is concerned, realistic should be around 40-42 KMPL when ridden sanely and with a hard, itching hand, it should come down to 30-35 KMPL.Originally posted by shravanchoudhary9 View Posti heard that if we ride the bike below 55 kmph then it will give milage of 58kmpl. but you said if we ride it without ripping then it will give around 35-40 same as p220
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-:: Loved It ::-
Thanks MG - Kudos to you and xBHP team for bring us this beautiful review.
Really worth the wait. Loved every bit of it but only that warning that comes with a caution made me think, you really need to be a careful with this lovely beast.
Nobody can drive it @ 55 or less explains a lot for this power beast. Only thing I can say is who wants miles from this bike try hard to achieve this. And one thing which I'm sure is there will be a lot of variation in terms of mileage when people will be talking about this. Here a lot depends on your riding if you want huge numbers from this advanced hybrid of pulsar range.
I have been regular reader of all the Pulsar 200 NS posts right from the first ride, confirmed pricing, ownership thread and now this.... Seems like a whole journey from January onwards and still haven't been able to look at it in flesh and ride it sometimes disappoint a little. None the less, it has it has increased my patience.
Thanks for the pictures, it keeps me breathing...
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@MG : Great review!!!
And thanks for clarifying on the tyre part.
Kudos!
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First bike from Bajaj which I admired and raised the pro biking bars too high, hope this bike sees competition from Hero motocorp. and Honda as well. Under Sane riding expect 45+ which is Insane considering the performance.
Hope it removes the bad quality tag from Bajaj and give it a new height for long term usage. Long live P200 NS.
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Awesome post, very rarely does a test review does that..Awesome pictures to boot @gourabh
With this bike close on the heels of the cbr when it comes to performance, even a semi faired NS is something Honda should be worried about. I see many prospective owners of this bike here, and this review should have answered most of the questions.
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Got it.. KTM for the enthusiast and the Pulsar for affordable performance seekers..
Thanks..
How about the performance? Any significant difference in real world conditions? I.e on the road?
Appreciate the effort and great pics mate.. Cheers..
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Thanks MG for the article. However, I have been going through other sites as well like Teambhp. There are reported incidents of KTM's engine seizing, busted valves, leaking radiator coolant, leaking front Suspension, poor workmanship (read loose bolts ). That does worry me as both P200NS and KTM share the same block and gearbox and are manufactured in the same plant. Also, KTM being priced and positioned higher it keeps me guessing how come Bajaj did not test KTM as extensively as they are testing 200NS.
Until the Engine seizure, workmanship and other issues with KTM is resolved, it does cast a serious doubt on P200NS as well.
Its hard to convince oneself that the issues faced on KTM will not surface on P200NS.
I was thinking to move on to P200NS from my P220, however after reading about issues with KTM I think it is best to wait for a year atleast for Bajaj to iron out issues if there are any.
It would be great if you guys can throw some light on the issues I mentioned.Last edited by chinmayakar; 06-22-2012, 01:03 AM.
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KTM is a very focused machine and it’s the best street bike currently available in the market.Originally posted by NiXTriX View PostNow, "The Question"
Having ridden the 2 beasts extensively, what do you reckon?
Ktm Duke 200 or Pulsar 200NS?
The rush factor of KTM is unmatched but that said the KTM cannot be ridden sanely. It begs to be ridden hard
Then there is the KTM brand and the legally attached with it
If you want something very different and don’t mind paying little bit extra then KTM is the bike for you!
Pulsar on the other hand is an overall good performer and performs well in all domain be it street, track, is a good tourer and comes out well when thrown in offroad conditions.
KTM even in 200cc avatar is a lifestyle product whereas Pulsar is brilliantly packaged product which does almost everything.
The yellow was not there as a test bike and hence no pictures. Although yellow was part of xBhp First Impression review and you can have a look at the pictures hereOriginally posted by Debashish View PostJust one thing, how come you don't have photos of the yellow colored Pulsar? I was in Pune a couple of days ago and saw 200NS in yellow. My first thoughts were - That must be bumblebee's 2 wheeled avatar.
I really liked the color and would like Bajaj to officially name it as "Transformer Yellow".
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/first-im...de-report.html
True top speed of NS is 136 as mentioned by the company. With tail wind and downhill one can most probably touch speed of 138-140Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Postthank you so much for clearing my doubts ...
the p220 has a true top speed in mid 130s .. so how much do you think would be the true top speed of ns ?
Only time will tellOriginally posted by experimentalhead View PostNice log. I would also like to know whether anything called Pulsar 200SS with a fairing is set to arrive?
I wonder what doubts you have. This is quicker than R15V2 and CBR150 and most probably will be quicker than CBR250 around a track. But then track is a completely different thing and 99% of the total buyer of either of these bikes will never go to any track.Originally posted by Rahulbarik View PostFinally...
now we need a full blown track test of the 200ns, cbr150r, r15 v2, duke and cbr250... What about a track test of the above bikes... That will clear most of our doubts i guess...
When I say 35-40 I mean riding at a cruising speed of 90-100 for most of the time and occasionally hitting the 130mark. No one will ride this vehicle at speeds below 55kmph.Originally posted by shravanchoudhary9 View Posti heard that if we ride the bike below 55 kmph then it will give milage of 58kmpl. but you said if we ride it without ripping then it will give around 35-40 same as p220
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Didn't want to make it too in your face. It is there for a purpose and hope everyone reads it after reading the review.Originally posted by vrugonnab View PostOne request though, make the note bold & red so that everyone takes note of it and gets the seriousness of it!Last edited by MG; 06-22-2012, 10:14 AM.
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I'll make my dad read this review so that he does not get me a Hero or Honda or Yammy Fazer & perhaps he'll get me the NS instead...this will surely convince him...hafta do something with the "note part" though...might just scare him off...xD
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Finally a well written & extensive review of the NS , which I've been waiting for so long now....10k kms of testing is just insane !
Nice work...
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"Without Ripping" for these guys would be "Without Red lining" the bike.. i.e crusing at 90-100 kmph in top gear.Originally posted by shravanchoudhary9 View Posti heard that if we ride the bike below 55 kmph then it will give milage of 58kmpl. but you said if we ride it without ripping then it will give around 35-40 same as p220
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Excellent write up MG, especially the emotional bit!
One request though, make the note bold & red so that everyone takes note of it and gets the seriousness of it!
From the review, looks like Horn & Tires are the only weak points noticed in about 10k kms of riding, that's mighty impressive for any bike. With this kind of performance, Honda should be worried about the prospect of full faired version of the new P200, it might hurt them badly.Last edited by vrugonnab; 06-21-2012, 11:38 PM.
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