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    Yamaha FZ 25 Review: The Gentleman's Game!



    There are motorcycles and then they are refined motorcycles. This piece of sweetness belongs to the latter. The Yamaha FZ 25 ain't no hooligan, it is a sedate machine which will do absolutely everything you need, without breaking a sweat!

    Yamaha organised a media ride in the lovely state of Goa, which is actually a perfect setting for this motorcycle. Twisties, undulating terrain, potholes, gravel and all two-lane highways! The road plays to the motorcycle's strength and masks its limited weaknesses.



    The bike is good looking, I don't think there will be many who disagree with that. It carries over the successful base design from its younger sibling sold in India and adds a touch more muscle. In fact, it does feel like a more grown up and mature version of the FZ-S. The prospective buyer will find the design familiar as well as refreshingly different. Face first, the LED headlamp makes you sit up and take notice. The only 250 in India with this setup Yamaha boffins proudly tell you. The LED lights have two bulbs in the centre for the low beam and one bulb in the lower half of the dome for the hi-beam. 13+13+9 Watts together consuming 35W with the hi-beam in play. Unfortunately we rode in bright sunlight and have no clue on the effectiveness of these new lights.

    Riding Gear By: Spartan ProGear and MT Helmets
    Switching from the lights we go to the switch gear. Quality finish and everything falls naturally to the rider's hands. The pass switch though isn't activated by your index finger, instead by the thumb. Which brings me to a pet peeve, why can't these basic things be standardised across motorcycles! I have a tiny brain and don't want to use it. Let muscle memory handle mundane things like this please!
    Quality Switches
    The Pass Switch is activated with your thumb and not the index finger
    Your leg muscles gladly grab onto the beefy fuel tank. The plastic is neatly sculpted and the recess provides you sufficient grip for all regular riding conditions. The saddle is oh so plush, you almost forget to mention it. That's how good it is. My pillion for a couple of kilometres vouched for the pillion saddle as well. The ergonomics are spot on for my 5'11" frame and I would gladly ride the length and breadth of this country on the FZ 25, if given a chance! The bike is neither excessively commuterish nor sporty, just skimming the sweet spot between the two.
    The lovely 14 litre tank!
    Plush!

    Meditate to go fast!







    The brakes on the bike are satisfactory, very gradeable, but if you grab a fistful, the tyres will protest. The MRF rubber on the FZ appeared quite capable, but not something you want to go kamikaze with! The bike doesn't have the safety net of ABS, so discretion is the better part of valour!

    282 mm front Bybre brake and disc
    The 220mm rear with MRF tyres on this one
    140 section doesn't seem so wide anymore with the competition upping the 'phat' tyre game!
    One of the strongest points of the Yamaha is its gem of an engine, equipped with the 'Blue Core' technology. The marketing term to describe an engine which extracts maximum power without being excessively thirsty. Departing from media ride convention, Yamaha laid bare it's heart and soul, quite literally! A variety of components from the engine internals were kept on display for enthusiasts to drool over. From the light weight piston, thinner piston rings, cylinder head block with oval combustion, the nickel and silicon plated sleeve, the muffler with multiple expansion chambers for the smooth sound, the 10-hole injector and a cross-section of the headlight. All this weight saving helps keep the weight down to a measly 148kg. Another figure the tech guys are proud to bandy about. This low weight aids handling considerably and the bike would be a different beast if it were 10 kg heavier. The torque from the engine might be scoffed on paper, but in real world riding conditions it's wonderful. Peak torque coming in at 6000 RPM, ensures that frequent gearshifts are not required and a bit of throttle will see you comfortably sailing past traffic. The bike does struggle for breath at the top end and we don't expect high speed runs. But riding at near around the triple digit mark is comfortable with no vibes coming in at any point. For those wondering about top speed, frankly Goa isn't a place you want to risk life and limb to attempt it, and with a brand new engine, your findings wouldn't be very accurate either.
    The best bit, is that big bit!
    Oil cooling pipes
    Along with the engine tech, Yamaha also showcased its aftermarket capabilities. On display was their diagnostic tool which is hooked into the ECU and all information about the various sensors of the motorcycle is provided to you. These are compared to set parameters which then allows the mechanic to clean/ replace any parts. There was also a fuel injector cleaning unit, in which Yamaha recommends the injectors to be cleaned every 6000km. Service intervals are set for 5000km so you would want to get it done at every service. All Yamaha SVCs will have these tools at their disposal to ensure a satisfactory service.
    Under the burning sun
    Hmmm... Can I ride the bike to that rock on the horizon!
    LED. Shining bright!
    FZ 25 vs Duke 250

    For starters, the bikes are very different and shouldn't be compared! So why am I doing so? Because someone will go ahead and ask me this question, so I will grab the bull by the horns!



    Photos: Thulashi Dharan J and Avinash Noronha (The Monk)

    Sand, beaches and motorcycles. Life!
    A pretty behind!
    Enlightenment!
    The beefy forks
    L. E. D. Say it slow, till you fall in love with it!
    The simple, yet pleasing display
    LED tail lamp
    Pillion shouldn't complain much
    The software used to train SVC mechs, so that you can get into the engine, without actually getting into the engine!
    Transformer?
    You can zoom into any part of the bike for more info... ...not here. In the software!
    Useful mirrors, which don't vibrate!
    That yellow thing keeps you happy!
    Good grip for your shoes
    At the Yamaha Tech Centre where very many things were explained. Here's the LED headlight
    The old injector alongside the new injector. 10 holes and not a golf course!
    Thin piston rings for the 25.
    The items on the right and left weigh the same. Almost!
    Once again, the right and left weigh the same! And the finish is superb on the FZ 25
    6-step injector cleaning
    The process being explained by the Yamaha guys


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  • #2
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    Comfortable cruising speed?
    Performance with pillion?
    Engine heating?
    F.E during test ride?

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    • #3
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      Nicely done!

      Almost all review sources are stating it to be a non-hooligan motorcycle for matured riders. A powerful, refined city COMMUTER with a great low/mid range. Except for PowerDrift. Their VBOX data states its even faster than the Duke 250 up to 100kmph. That is frankly bizarre and downright confusing 😕😮

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      • #4
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        Good review and nice set of pictures. Need help with below things:

        1. Please elaborate more on pillion comfort on long rides.
        2. more info on negatives

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        • #5
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          @above,pdarmy vbox tests shows the Yamaha as faster than Duke 250..If so the the yammy makes so much more sense at 60k less!!!
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          • #6
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            Any info on the most asked question "Kitna deti hai?"

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            • #7
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              Excellent review. Best one i have read so far .

              Few queries -

              A ) During chat with showroom guys, they said oil tank is steel .Infact they removed the fuel cap to show me same & indeed it was steel. It is covered with fibre panels. not sure who is correct .

              This compare should settle the 0-100 timings. While KTM makes 10 HP more but there is only a diff of 4 nm in torque figures . FZ makes peak torque at 6K, KTM makes it at 7.5 K. add the extra 20 odd kg wait & it explains while FZ is fast to ton.

              Originally posted by Johnty View Post
              Any info on the most asked question "Kitna deti hai?"
              Yamaha claimed 43 KMPL . IN real world conditions expect anything above 35 IMO .

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                Monk great review out there. Quite nicely covered. Though would have want some more pics of the bike . How much did you push it to? How is it from touring point of view? What other colors are available?

                You know my prospect of motorcycling now, right. Touring and commuting. so what do you suggest is it something I should go for or not. I am just waiting for it to come in the showroom, though I dont know if they will permit the test ride of this beautiful machine or not.

                My favorite question, since you have been with Yamaha Guys all this time - any news on XT Lander?

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                  Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post
                  Monk great review out there. Quite nicely covered. Though would have want some more pics of the bike . How much did you push it to? How is it from touring point of view? What other colors are available?

                  You know my prospect of motorcycling now, right. Touring and commuting. so what do you suggest is it something I should go for or not. I am just waiting for it to come in the showroom, though I dont know if they will permit the test ride of this beautiful machine or not.

                  My favorite question, since you have been with Yamaha Guys all this time - any news on XT Lander?
                  Let me help with what i know.

                  colors available are -

                  Blue , white & black.

                  Head over to Yamaha showroom in sector 10 Noida if u r in noida. Bikes are available & they are offering test rides too until Friday evening when i was there.

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                  • #10
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                    Excellent review !!

                    just a small request, please dont use the word "LED Bulb", sounds weird. you can call it LED Chip or just LED.
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                      Seems like a wonderful package at a very good price. With a bit more aggressive marketing, I don't see why it shouldn't clock good sales figures.
                      As for the FI cleaning equipment, it's been around for more than a year at some Yamaha svc's & I've seen it in use.

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                        Originally posted by IamAditya View Post
                        Comfortable cruising speed?
                        Performance with pillion?
                        Engine heating?
                        F.E during test ride?
                        100-120.
                        Didn't ride with a pillion for sufficient distance to talk about all out performance. But low speed, low gear on steep narrow slopes of Goa was surprisingly good. Lots of grunt the engine has.
                        Didn't experience any heat at all.
                        No clue. The bikes were given to us fuelled up and we returned them as is.

                        Originally posted by ALI.R View Post
                        Nicely done!

                        Almost all review sources are stating it to be a non-hooligan motorcycle for matured riders. A powerful, refined city COMMUTER with a great low/mid range. Except for PowerDrift. Their VBOX data states its even faster than the Duke 250 up to 100kmph. That is frankly bizarre and downright confusing 😕😮
                        Thank you!

                        Originally posted by atulmnh View Post
                        Good review and nice set of pictures. Need help with below things:

                        1. Please elaborate more on pillion comfort on long rides.
                        2. more info on negatives
                        Thanks.
                        1. As above. "Didn't ride with a pillion for sufficient distance"
                        2. One negative is the top end, but since the engines were brand new, i would like to reserve that judgement. Also, i am unsure of the lighting capabilities of the LEDs, especially in fog and other low visibility conditions.


                        Originally posted by Johnty View Post
                        Any info on the most asked question "Kitna deti hai?"
                        As mentioned above!

                        Originally posted by .sushilkumar View Post
                        Excellent review. Best one i have read so far .

                        Few queries -

                        A ) During chat with showroom guys, they said oil tank is steel .Infact they removed the fuel cap to show me same & indeed it was steel. It is covered with fibre panels. not sure who is correct .

                        This compare should settle the 0-100 timings. While KTM makes 10 HP more but there is only a diff of 4 nm in torque figures . FZ makes peak torque at 6K, KTM makes it at 7.5 K. add the extra 20 odd kg wait & it explains while FZ is fast to ton.



                        Yamaha claimed 43 KMPL . IN real world conditions expect anything above 35 IMO .
                        Thanks a lot

                        Oil tank?

                        The FZ weighs 148 kg, the Duke 250 weighs in at 161 kg. Some of the extra 9.5 bhp is offset by the extra weight. Thus the similar times which PD have found (Assuming their figures are accurate). I have never bothered about figures so much, its the motorcycle character which is more important. The Duke feels fast, even at 40. The FZ will feel sedate even at 120!

                        Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post
                        Monk great review out there. Quite nicely covered. Though would have want some more pics of the bike . How much did you push it to? How is it from touring point of view? What other colors are available?

                        You know my prospect of motorcycling now, right. Touring and commuting. so what do you suggest is it something I should go for or not. I am just waiting for it to come in the showroom, though I dont know if they will permit the test ride of this beautiful machine or not.

                        My favorite question, since you have been with Yamaha Guys all this time - any news on XT Lander?
                        Thanks sir. Will get more motorcycle pictures in future! Just past the triple digit mark. Maybe 120 or so tops, but i wasn't pushing. I think it is splendid for touring. Knight Black, Ballistic Blue (which one Yamaha guy kept on calling green ) and Warrior White!

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                        Lolwa for your last question!


                        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        Excellent review !!

                        just a small request, please dont use the word "LED Bulb", sounds weird. you can call it LED Chip or just LED.
                        Thanks sir! Point noted

                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        Seems like a wonderful package at a very good price. With a bit more aggressive marketing, I don't see why it shouldn't clock good sales figures.
                        As for the FI cleaning equipment, it's been around for more than a year at some Yamaha svc's & I've seen it in use.
                        It is indeed. The pricing makes the package a very interesting proposition.

                        What we were told, is that the FI cleaning equipment, diagnostic tool and the 3D training software will be available at almost all showrooms now. Not just some. Hopefully that is the case.

                        If you would like to have a look at a very pixelated video of the Yamaha guys showcasing the tech gone into the FZ 25 - https://www.facebook.com/xBhpMotorcy...8051342874129/
                        Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

                        Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

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                          Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                          100-120.
                          Thanks.
                          1. As above. "Didn't ride with a pillion for sufficient distance"
                          2. One negative is the top end, but since the engines were brand new, i would like to reserve that judgement. Also, i am unsure of the lighting capabilities of the LEDs, especially in fog and other low visibility conditions.
                          Thanks for your answers sir. Few more points i need to know,
                          1. Refinement compared to Dominar
                          2. Bike's overall quality compared to Dominar

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                            Originally posted by atulmnh View Post
                            Thanks for your answers sir. Few more points i need to know,
                            1. Refinement compared to Dominar
                            2. Bike's overall quality compared to Dominar
                            I had expected this question! Unfortunately, i haven't ridden the Dominar as yet, and therefore am not in a position to be able to answer that.
                            Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

                            Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

                            Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                              Oil tank ?
                              I mean petrol tank. Apologies being a IT guy, I am technically challenged when it comes to automobiles.

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