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    I had a very interesting discussion with ashok george the other day, and i realised that as per the guidelines given to the auto industry, If any manufacturer discontinues a model, they have to give support by stocking and supplying parts for the next 7-10 years ( Im not sure of the exact years, but i think its 7 years). I remember it happened in the case of the matiz, and the cielo when it was discontinued, the company confirmed that parts will be available to all owners.


    Case in point, yamaha. The RX135 series was discontinued in 2004-2005. Now the RX100 parts are available with the company, which was discontinued in 96, but critical parts like the cylinder block, crank etc are not available for the RX135 series, especially the 5 speed version, which came with a disc brake, and had higher power ( 14.5 bhp vs 12.5 bhp ).

    My query to all lawyers, and 2stroke lovers. Can we do something about it?? its only been 5 years since the bikes have been discontinued, and no parts are available for the 5 speed, unless you find some which have been around for ages.

    Can we put in a formal complaint to the company, citing this ruling ( obviously we will need the exact rule etc ), and then take matters further???

    Any 2 stroke heads listening???

    I do have a big list of parts to purchase, and im sure so will others if it works out!! hehe.


    My offerings to the gods of speed -

    - KTM Duke 200
    - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed



  • #2
    Off-Topic Discussion Approved.
    :)

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    • #3
      @JD-- most of the RXG/RX-Z/RX-135(both 4S and 5S) riders prefer to go in for RX-100's ring and piston set over here and i believe they fit with very little/no mods

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      • #4
        JD good initiative .. me on the same boat.

        Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
        @JD-- most of the RXG/RX-Z/RX-135(both 4S and 5S) riders prefer to go in for RX-100's ring and piston set over here and i believe they fit with very little/no mods
        Hope you are confused, it will never fit the bore x stroke is different.
        "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


        Still the Boss -- RX 135

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        • #5
          Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
          Hope you are confused, it will never fit the bore x stroke is different.
          May be,
          but can it be done with some tinkering? and what modifications would be required?

          ^what if the whole bore is changed?

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          • #6
            @sheel - thats the issue, the bores are not available. No new bores are available for 135 4speed or 5 speed for that matter. I have searched a lot and spoken to a number of company officials, no word on the same.

            The point here is, how can they discontinue parts, if the bikes were in production a few years back.

            Im yet to see a RXZ 5 speed parts catalog to say the least. I have all the RX135 parts catalogs for the post 2002 models, but is the company taking order for it??


            My offerings to the gods of speed -

            - KTM Duke 200
            - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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            • #7
              Originally posted by jd666 View Post
              @sheel - thats the issue, the bores are not available. No new bores are available for 135 4speed or 5 speed for that matter. I have searched a lot and spoken to a number of company officials, no word on the same.
              What advantages does a RX-135 has over an RX-100?
              ^have ridden RX-100 significantly, but very less the RX-135 series and in the short rides, i couldn't really figure out which one is better

              The point here is, how can they discontinue parts, if the bikes were in production a few years back.

              Im yet to see a RXZ 5 speed parts catalog to say the least. I have all the RX135 parts catalogs for the post 2002 models, but is the company taking order for it??
              Dunno mate, but i am not very sure Yamaha shall come up with something until and unless there is a firm judge with a stern face reading out the orders,

              Yamaha is too engrossed selling FZ/Fazer to look into these humdrum things

              ^miss my 2st

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                What advantages does a RX-135 has over an RX-100?
                ^have ridden RX-100 significantly, but very less the RX-135 series and in the short rides, i couldn't really figure out which one is better



                Dunno mate, but i am not very sure Yamaha shall come up with something until and unless there is a firm judge with a stern face reading out the orders,

                Yamaha is too engrossed selling FZ/Fazer to look into these humdrum things

                ^miss my 2st
                the RX135 is faster in acceleration, top speed etc. thru the gears, the RX100 might have something against it, but otherwise the 135 is faster in other aspects, and the 135 5S with the 14.5 bhp bore, even more so.


                My offerings to the gods of speed -

                - KTM Duke 200
                - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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                • #9
                  I agree with you JD. Btw the only input I can give is: They are supposed to produce parts for 15 years, from the date of stopping production.
                  Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                  • #10
                    JD good initiative man, I am game for it. Lets file a petition or get Right of Information act for the company and see what they have to say.

                    Save the Earth - We are the one who are running out of time, as Earth will take it own time to heal but that time may not be enough for us.


                    http://www.ridesafewith.me
                    I dont just ride my bikes, I live with them.
                    Yamaha RX100 (1987 model)
                    Yamaha YZF R15 (2010 model)
                    Hero Impulse (2012 model)
                    Mahindra Thar (2015 model)
                    GIRed 2012

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                    • #11
                      ^please direct me to a relevant thread where i can post few RX-100/135 questions,

                      don't want to spoil such a thread

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                      • #12
                        The point here is, how can they discontinue parts, if the bikes were in production a few years back
                        This country (Govt) as such has banned 2 stroke motorcycles as per the norms of UN & as dominated by other west countries. Now one can launch a case with Yamaha asking to supply the parts, if its for cylinder, just remember that our competent lawyer should be fighting against the Govt & not only with YMI.

                        Now, I don't have to give a lecture on the justice prevailing in this country. Say our good lawyer wins the case after good number of years & that would be when the Fatboy available for a little over 9L or a FZ6 available in the range of 3-4L. Trust me, by that time, we would take RX to the classic motor shows only as our children will never want even to consider thinking about a single cylinder under powered (!!!) 135CC motors.

                        My question will be - Is it worth giving the attempt?

                        Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post
                        get Right of Information act for the company
                        @Shivansu - What is Right of Information Act for the company? Can you elaborate?
                        Last edited by aargee; 05-28-2010, 12:58 PM.
                        Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                        ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                          ^please direct me to a relevant thread where i can post few RX-100/135 questions,

                          don't want to spoil such a thread
                          Sheel you can check it here
                          Spare parts thread 2 strokes Yamaha RX family

                          Types of Yamaha RX100 bores/cylinders


                          Originally posted by aargee View Post

                          @Shivanshu - What is Right of Information Act for the company? Can you elaborate?
                          Right of Information Act says that you can legally ask the company as per why they have stopped supplying the parts of a non production bike which is not more than 5yrs old. But as per the company protocol they say they will supply the parts of the bike les say 10yrs from the date of production being stopped. And the company will have to answer it.

                          Save the Earth - We are the one who are running out of time, as Earth will take it own time to heal but that time may not be enough for us.


                          http://www.ridesafewith.me
                          I dont just ride my bikes, I live with them.
                          Yamaha RX100 (1987 model)
                          Yamaha YZF R15 (2010 model)
                          Hero Impulse (2012 model)
                          Mahindra Thar (2015 model)
                          GIRed 2012

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                          • #14
                            ^^ okay, and how to proceed with it?? because i checked the parts catalog, and some parts like the cylinder were marked with a # and it said that no service parts available due operation constraints on some. and others were marked with a cross stating in the legend, that till stocks are available.

                            Dint make sense at all.

                            Anyways, what do we need to do, to get this done??? guys need inputs, ideas... where are the 2 stroke fanatics??


                            My offerings to the gods of speed -

                            - KTM Duke 200
                            - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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                            • #15
                              @Shivansu - Sorry that I couldn't understand about the Right to Information act. But if you're referring to what is shortly called as RTI - then I'm sorry my friend, its of no use.

                              @JD - If you want to succeed, the only way is to make a collective effort rather than one person.
                              Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                              Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                              ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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