Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

[sunilg]

Hi Guys,

From today evening onward, the posts on the threads in the "off-topic" section won't add to your total post count. Everything will remain the same except you won't see your post count going northwards when you post a joke in bikers' joke thread.

This is one of the few important change in the forum functioning/policies that are going to be implemented very soon.

Let us know if you are experiencing any difficulties post this upgrade.

So you may experience some reduction in the total number of posts under your username, but you don't need to worry, it won't cause the share market to crash, nor will it incite Chinese army to send more troops inside our territory. However, as a precautionary measure you can keep a packet of tissue to wipe tears for the next one week in case one of your over-sensitive biker friends from xBhp calls you telling how this move has hurt his physical/emotional/economical sentiments.


EDIT: There's no reduction in the existing number of posts, so you don't need to cancel the Friday night party.

[The Monk]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Very nice, awesome.

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Yes its working!

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And auto merge is working as well!

[Eshan-P180]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Nice move there.

One suggestion can this rule be also implemented for the likes received from such threads! Just a suggestion... Nothing personal. ;P

[sunilg]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Thanks for the suggestion Eshan.

We can consider this in the future; however, for now, the 'Like' feature will remain in the off-topic section too.

[darkknight]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

some other posts containing following "key" words should also not be counted:

1)very good

2)nice move by so & so

3)Plus one Or I like it Or very nice

4)sentences which are more of a chat conversation rather than adding anything of value.

etc...

[sunilg]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

DK: I agree, but do not know if that is technically feasible to implement this.

[rachitkohli]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Awesome..
Ab dudh ka dudh.. paani ka paani..
superb move !!!

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Indeed a an excellent. I wish there wasn't even the tag "NUMBER OF POSTS" but the likes can be incorporated so that others can see how many likes ones got like in many Bulletin forums.

All in kudos for a great move.

Cheers!
VJ

[sambit]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

some other posts containing following "key" words should also not be counted:

1)very good

2)nice move by so & so

3)Plus one Or I like it Or very nice

4)sentences which are more of a chat conversation rather than adding anything of value.

etc...

That has to be done manually. Because somtimes the 1 or 2 words sentences are meaningful. Else a more complicated feature is required, with Dictionary attached.
By the way great move. Some would really be dissapointed(I recon there are many). But people like me, who dont care about post count, wont be affected.

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Its Working??????

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ITS WORKING......

[Sid85]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Very nice, awesome.

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

Yes its working!

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

And auto merge is working as well!

Must say auto-merge is a good addition

[Ezilkannan]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

Nice move

[princesirohi]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

although it seems everybody like this new feature, i fail to understand any real benefit from it.

i may be the odd one out, or it may seems like its me only who thinks exact opposite of everybody else, but i too have the right of opinion, so here is it-->>

(1) i don't think anybody tries to impose or force their superiority or seniority on any new member just because they have more post count. "hey, see i have 6000/9000 post count, so you better not raise your voice against me, i am senior, so you shut up" -- this never happens, may be once or twice in a blue moon, rarest of rare cases.

(2) even if it happens, mods can take action, but it never happens like that.

(3) even after this new policy is implemented. it will hardly change things, as far as post count is concerned, because post count is not reduced, it just wont increase for posts in future in "off-topic" section. so whosoever is at 6000/9000 post count will remain at it and keeps increasing at a slightly reduced rate, whereas new members will take years to make it to comparable post count and plz note it-- 95% will never reach a post count of something in excess of say 6000, coz it take years and dedicated time almost daily, and 95% will disappear much sooner. to do a reality check, just see out of more than 44000 members, how many are active and how many post atleast once a week, it will be less than 100. that is less than 0.2 %

(4) out of all the thread in "off-topic" section, i think only "hilarious posts/joke thread" is the only fastest growing thread, and if someone checks the number of like that thread gets, he can instatly make out that it is a very popular thread. and i don't think there is any harm in sharing jokes, even on a motorcycling forum.

(5)

Awesome..
Ab dudh ka dudh.. paani ka paani..
superb move !!!

rachit, bro... i don't know what "doodh ka doodh, paani ka paani" you are talking about...did you ever felt that any member with more post count is trying to subdue you or force things upon you...??

(6) more than this, what we need is strict moderation on the content of posts, there are n number of posts, which are "not short" but still contain wrong information / pure speculation / total crap / half information / useless suggestions etc which puts-off a serious reader, and then these are so enthusiastically & hotly debated, consuming several pages that the whole point is lost.

(7) there are members, who ask simple of the simple things through PM, i want to ask--why..??, are they afraid to ask in public, that others will think that they know less..?? or they don't want to read the threads, or even to use google or ask themselves "how/why" and try to find answers and if still in doubt, then ask. they even won't read the information readily available in other members signatures. those links in signatures are to help everyone. plz read them. and they won't even use the visitor message feature instead use PM--why? answer lyes in point no.-7 first line only. everybody wants short-cuts & spoon-feeding. others have burnt their fingers doing things, consumed time, energy and money to find right solutions, you can atleast read the threads. otherwise what is the point in having a forum with so many threads. instead turn it into a chat room.

(8) if post count is really to be kept in check, what is the point in creating a new "news thread" for anything and everything that happens. why not merge related news together in one thread. just an example- tip of the iceberg- a new thread for every month sales report..??? why not a single thread so that very sales report is updated in the same thread, atleast one thread for an entire year. if someone is really looking for sales information he can get all information in a single thread.


(9)

some other posts containing following "key" words should also not be counted:

1)very good

2)nice move by so & so

3)Plus one Or I like it Or very nice

4)sentences which are more of a chat conversation rather than adding anything of value.

etc...

in my opinion, these kind of "key words" are often found in news section threads, where a member writes this just to indicate that he has read the news and maybe that he is alive and active in xbhp. and i think these should be excused because these "key words" (which do not add anything of value) are often mentioned in news threads which in itself is not a news thread of any value. for example- batman backpack, biker barath in gujurat. these can be easily accomodated in random news - abroad or random news-india. and threads such as MV augusta F4 gets ABS or Ducati CEO change-- in which there is nothing to discuss, still it is kept open for discussion. and threads such as -

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/16244-suzuki-gw250-aka-b-king-clone-its-way-india.html

&

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/25956-suzuki-gw-250s-unveiled-shanghai.html

can be clubbed together, and--

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/25867-bajaj-plans-2-new-pulsars-year.html

&

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/25982-bajaj-auto-plans-fy2014-6-discovers-2-pulsars-more.html

can be clubbed together, and these are just examples.

so the point is if the member posting the news and the moderator approving it, both are increasing their post counts by doing all the above things mentioned in this point. can other member not post a "good news" message....??

the point is either ignore both or rectify both.



i think i have made my opinion, huh... took lot of time to write these observations, which very few dare to discuss in public.

my post is not against any member or any moderator, but these are just some points to ponder....

consecutive posts auto merge is a welcome feature, whereas this one will not be of much help, i guess.

[manas34]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

although it seems everybody like this new feature, i fail to understand any real benefit from it.

i may be the odd one out, or it may seems like its me only who thinks exact opposite of everybody else, but i too have the right of opinion, so here is it-->>

i agree with most of the points mentioned and i am bit lazy to read it completely and most of them hit at a point...


MODS i dont think it will have any effect to any member...
how will you justify this persons total post and daily posts http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/members/neo1985.html
auto merge facility is good.

just wanna know any specific reason to change it? its a great difficult for programmer to make changes in code for changing count of posts.
dont give so much headache to people like us.

just try to lock old completed threads and delete thread named as moved thread or deleted thread
something like this


PLEASE try to make a thread about complains or problems or suggestion about xbhp site this will be very useful.

AND we all guys need a mobile xbhp site as its too difficult to access the updated version after 12/12/12

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try to moderate post which are biased one , mostly seen in what bike section where people try to give biased suggestions for the company of the bike they own .

[The Monk]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

@ Prince

You are correct in many respects.

The reason this is done is because many new members post in OT section to get their post count up. Other suggestions by you and other members on this thread will also be implemented to improve quality. It is being worked on, this is but a small step, hopefully in the right direction.

It is currently difficult to moderate such a massive forum with such a small team of moderators. If members will report posts more often, then the work of the team will be easier.

The forum is for members, but if members are least interested in keeping it clean, then it becomes difficult. We need members to be more proactive in keeping it clean!

As the above member says, we should try to moderate the biased posts, how do we do that if members don't report such posts?

It takes two to tango!

[whymail]

Re: Announcement: Posts in the off-topic section won't add to your total post count

again, i might be late in boarding this running train but does the post count really matter?
i prefer to hang out here simply coz i love to...
- read stuff
- make friends who are more demented than what i think i am
- know more about bikes & such.
- i love to hang -out. period!
i think most people here, are here for an even larger perspective, than whats listed above.
on second thoughts, what is the benefit of ramping up the post count? does the max post count guy get a free V-Max in 10 yrs from now? does it mean that the guy who has max post count, has his family jewels the size of coconuts? or does he gets to earn just few brownie points? ;-)
i.m.h.o. the post count field is actually insignificant & has no bearing on the knowledge, intellect, attitude & aptitude of the person who holds it.
and if there were indeed folks who were posting merely to get their post count up... its wiser to simply ignore them or knock them off - good riddance of bad trash :-)
just my 2 paise :-)