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  • #31
    it is not about plastic and metal. it is about being orthodox and modern. the engines in bullet are not changed or don't go the evolution cycle because even RE knows beyond a certain limit the chasis can't handle more power and will need a new chasis, which is a lot of investment.
    As far as going anywhere is concerned me and my friend went to leh on a P200 and R15 and let me assure you we never regretted the decision, though i must admit we wished we had a "friend" on Bullet to carry some extra load. But in terms of pure biking pleasure i don't think i will want to go there on the bullet.

    Lastly please understand am not saying bullet does not serve a purpose or it is beyond repair, it is, and that is why the company should make a better bike out of it. Simply because it can be done.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DL8S AB 9501 View Post
      I told myself for not commenting on this un-ended topic...but now, i can't control and back up Tilak Soni.

      Here is the comparison between Metals and Plastics... After a long 1000 kmts, plastics do tore but metals don't.

      It's ok to say that every machine can go anywhere, whether it's 100 cc or 1000 cc, but there is a hell lot of difference in taking 180cc's and 350 cc's.
      There you will find to know what actually a BULLET is!!

      As per the old engine and technology is concerned, they don't think it should be changed as it is running high as it is. Engines are changed only for other motorcycles every bit and now. Why?? Think!!

      Talking of BHP: 180cc gives you 15 bhp, 350 cc shuld ideally give 30 bhp but it is 20. So acc. to you, 900cc should give 75bhp ....huh....which is not true. Honda 900RR gives 125 bhp
      100cc activa should give around 8bhp, you can't apply simple mathematics here.

      Bullet is a different class all-together which can't be compared with any other. Rest is yours!!

      This is a discussion as we are comparing Boys with Girls. Some things are not meant to be compared.
      Anyways, nice writeup fotrty6 and you ignited fire in many hearts!! Hope it will increase the sale of Bullet
      You my friend, should read some of the threads from a user whose ID is vivek100cc

      Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
      I am wondering what argument can a Bulleteer start here logically!!

      The reason why a Non-bulleteer starts such an argument (if it is the way it is said) is so that in a hope that someday we will have bullets which would make the so-called non-bulleters love bullets.

      Any Biker, riding any bikes will have his own respect for a proper cruiser and the thump it has, Even though they might nor prefer it. We just want to see it better that what it is in our country. Changes/Initiatives to correct is what it lacks.

      If someone call a BULLET a perfect bike without no issues/hassles, then yes he would fit the 'barking dog' e.g. perfectly. If you say a Bulleteer means handling those issues/hassles than to enjoy the ride, that is the ignorance/arrogance here.. Still there are so many Bulleteers.. shows the biking spirit, which is something to really appreciate. However the classics are the fresh air..
      Well thats not what I meant from the analogy...
      Like I said before, I dont hate the bike for what it is not... I hate the fanboyism... and in general the fanboyism that is present in both the bulleteer and the bullet basher.


      If you like it, like it for what it is... be it a bullet or be it any other bike.

      I would hate to see this fantastic write up ending up getting locked due to a flamewar!
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      • #33
        ^ exactly. all i want to tell you guys, who love bullet so much is to accept its follies and tell RE to shape up.
        And please understand am not happy with the companies who make plastic too. The only difference is while RE is reptiles in term of evolution, plastic is apes.

        This though gives me an idea to write another one.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
          I would hate to see this fantastic write up ending up getting locked due to a flamewar!
          Same here.

          Originally posted by forty6 View Post
          This though gives me an idea to write another one.
          Bring it on!
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          • #35
            Originally posted by forty6 View Post
            Lastly please understand am not saying bullet does not serve a purpose or it is beyond repair, it is, and that is why the company should make a better bike out of it. Simply because it can be done.

            Exactly the point sir !
            Before - Waiting for 150 KMPH+ Indian bike

            After - DUKEd !
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            • #36
              @forty6 : The problem lies when you start comparing bullets to other bikes. Other bikes will be faster , quicker , handle better , cost less and what not. They will have a different feel. But it won't be a bullet. Hopefully someday , you will love a bullet for "what it is" . Bullet = Joy of Riding .
              @satyen : you can't expect to post such comments and not expect a flame war do you
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              • #37
                Originally posted by forty6 View Post
                And openly claiming i love boobs is something that shows i don't have too much of character.
                In that case there aren't too many people with too much of character!

                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                WTH! You guys didnt get the boobs joke?
                Good! At least someone got the boobs joke!
                The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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                • #38
                  It is all utility.

                  The R-15 is a fantastic bike. It has everything, I love it. But I have no utility for it as I love to offroad (though have thoroughly done offroading on the R-15 as well), specially up on a mountain. You can't offroad as well on an R-15 than you can on a bull. Simple.

                  I will cite an example - Changa la, the third highest motorable road in the world, has THE steepest ascend in Ladakh , on a road, from the Pangong side (Barring Marsimik, as there we are talking roads and that pack track cannot be classified as a road). I on my 150 was struggling in the first gear on the ascend and so was my fellow rider on his 220, ahead of me. BUT our third companion was, a bull rider (xBhp handle DL8S AB 9501) was gleefully cruising on the third at speeds above 40. There lies the difference.

                  But again, the bull can't take a corner as effortlessly as the R-15, or for that matter, my CBZ. Simple. You can't scrape knees that easily on a bull.

                  Buy a bike which fits your bill. Like you said, you want to corner. The bull would offer nothing to you in that department. Too heavy with worthless brakes. But if it's the bumpy backroads of the himalays you want to ride on, the bull scores hands down.

                  Before I end, I would also add that, ALWAYS it is more of the rider and less of the ride. There are people that have performed miracles on the road, on the aged old technology that the RE promotes
                  Last edited by kurtrules; 07-22-2010, 07:03 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kurtrules View Post
                    I will cite an example - Changa la, the third highest motorable road in the world, has THE steepest ascend in Ladakh , on a road, from the Pangong side (Barring Marsimik, as there we are talking roads and that pack track cannot be classified as a road). I on my 150 was struggling in the first gear on the ascend and so was my fellow rider on his 220, ahead of me. BUT our third companion was, a bull rider (xBhp handle DL8S AB 9501) was gleefully cruising on the third at speeds above 40. There lies the difference.
                    I did not feel anything on my 220!
                    The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                      Good! At least someone got the boobs joke!
                      you should see more Adam Sandler movies :P


                      Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post
                      @satyen : you can't expect to post such comments and not expect a flame war do you
                      See I love the bullets but hate the fanboys! heck I ride chalk and cheese of 150CC segments! a vibRTR and a R15! Darn!

                      Originally posted by kurtrules View Post
                      It is all utility.

                      The R-15 is a fantastic bike. It has everything, I love it. But I have no utility for it as I love to offroad (though have thoroughly done offroading on the R-15 as well), specially up on a mountain. You can't offroad as well on an R-15 than you can on a bull. Simple.

                      I will cite an example - Changa la, the third highest motorable road in the world, has THE steepest ascend in Ladakh , on a road, from the Pangong side (Barring Marsimik, as there we are talking roads and that pack track cannot be classified as a road). I on my 150 was struggling in the first gear on the ascend and so was my fellow rider on his 220, ahead of me. BUT our third companion was, a bull rider (xBhp handle DL8S AB 9501) was gleefully cruising on the third at speeds above 40. There lies the difference.

                      But again, the bull can't take a corner as effortlessly as the R-15, or for that matter, my CBZ. Simple. You can scrape knees that easily on a bull.

                      Buy a bike which fits your bill. Like you said, you want to corner. The bull would offer nothing to you in that department. Too heavy with worthless brakes. But if it's the bumpy backroads of the himalays you want to ride on, the bull scores hands down.

                      Before I end, I would also add that, ALWAYS it is more of the rider and less of the ride. There are people that have performed miracles on the road, on the aged old technology that the RE promotes
                      Nailed it perfectly...
                      Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

                      .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex
                      PowerDrift:.

                      #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                      #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                      #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                      #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                      #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
                      � Satyen Poojary

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                        I did not feel anything on my 220!
                        Sir that's the difference FI makes

                        He rides a 220 carb
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by kurtrules View Post
                          Sir that's the difference FI makes

                          He rides a 220 carb
                          This will go OT. But at the end of this log I will discuss the differences of the two motorcycles and share certain things that really surprised me!
                          The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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                          • #43
                            Well written article I must say, though I will not get into which is better debate because I have ridden an RE too & I must say that the bike was good, apart from the already mentioned Technology & quality of parts. There was word that you would be writing more, bring it on.

                            CHEERS,
                            G D
                            PEACE

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                            • #44
                              Well written.

                              I own a Standard350 and Zma R.
                              Best of both worlds and worlds apart in terms of technology, behavior, 'character' etc. cal it whatever you want to
                              Love both of them equally.

                              Comparisons are and will always be made in the future and why is always a Bullet compared to the modern Four stroke singles will always remain a mystery to me.

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                              • #45
                                Great Write

                                Dear fory6 First of all let me congratulate you on your fun tastic write up.Your sense of humor,and the ability to put it into expressive words are most hillarious . I laughed for five minutes on your pun and the similies so aptly used. You just made my day . I am looking forward to more from you....Where did you learn to have such command over the language ? As you rightly mentioned the Bullet is a tough vehicle to maintain and use.Oil companies thrive on it's engine leakage,and even our traditional Brake Inspectors(buffalo) "fear the thumper".
                                Last edited by psr; 08-14-2010, 12:23 PM.
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