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**kinshuk.arya** · 08-09-2010, 11:25 AM

one question....

do we need to get the bike homologated if we manufacture it ourselves?? and what will come under manufacturer's name in the RC book

**rahulingle1** · 08-09-2010, 03:56 PM

@ kinshuk
dear i dn't understand term "homologated" plz explain in detail. for RC book we need the AIAR approval before that. and then we can think for the registration company.
plz explain the term. thanx.

**kinshuk.arya** · 08-09-2010, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by rahulingle1 View Post

@ kinshuk
dear i dn't understand term "homologated" plz explain in detail. for RC book we need the AIAR approval before that. and then we can think for the registration company.
plz explain the term. thanx.

homologation is the process done by the indian govt to see whether a vehicle is road worthy or not as bigger engines pollute the environment thats why....
i dont know much about it but the various companies are not able to bring in their sub800c.c. bikes because of this process as the amount involved in it is very substantial please check on it from an expert...

**rahulingle1** · 08-09-2010, 04:29 PM

okya ! i will keep that in my mind now onwords. but mate first we need to have a engine ! then we can improve it for the emission norms ! thanx for u r point as that is most important for us to notice. keep visiting and help us.

**kinshuk.arya** · 08-09-2010, 10:39 PM

actuaaly even i was thiking of somethig like that so was first researching on the govt's norm and barriers.... but was not able to find much...

i was thinking on the lines of developing a whole new engine of arnd 600 c.c. and a bike within a price range of 5l.....

**rahulingle1** · 08-09-2010, 11:08 PM

u can find some information at ARAI web. but it did not help us out. a friend, xbhpn from chennai come to rescue he is with RE and technical engineer. he know the procedure. as he give it to. u can find it here in the same thread.
look developing a complete new engine is the ultimate aim. for now at least we can develop a crankcase !!

**satya_3d** · 08-10-2010, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post

actuaaly even i was thiking of somethig like that so was first researching on the govt's norm and barriers.... but was not able to find much...

i was thinking on the lines of developing a whole new engine of arnd 600 c.c. and a bike within a price range of 5l.....

Nice project guys..

Its' ARAI not AIRA, it stands for Automotive Research Association of India.

Located at Vetal Hill, and rahul it is in Kothrud, Pune..visit them n you can find all rules and safety regulations... AIS standards.
you can contact them, and clarify all your doubts,,
if your Engine will be able to achieve the required emission levels then you might apply for legal certificate from them..

their web: Automotive Research And Development, Automotive Service Provider, India, Vehicle Type Certification, Automotive Testing And Calibration, Vehicle Design Labs, Advanced Automotive Design Standards, Automotive Engineering Course

**satya_3d** · 08-10-2010, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by rahulingle1 View Post

@ kinshuk
dear i dn't understand term "homologated" plz explain in detail. for RC book we need the AIAR approval before that. and then we can think for the registration company.
plz explain the term. thanx.

homologation is a process of getting approval for your vehicle from Government approved authority, like;
ARAI-Pune,
VRDE- Aehmednagar
ICAT-manesar, gurgaon
some more at chennai, Indore, they all come under NATRIP, National Automotive Testing and R&D Infrastructure Project.

coming back to topic,
say ARAI have defined some vehicle test for engine, chassis etc etc to ensure its safety and reliability. they will test each and every part, system of your vehicle, if any automotive manufacturer wants to launch his new product in market, he has to take all necessary test done by these regulatory authorities...

it ensures the safety of our society, environment and maintains enough competitiveness among all automakers.

all the best...
mh12 av 5522

**kinshuk.arya** · 08-10-2010, 02:24 AM

initially i was thiking on the following lines....
1. vertically stacked dual projectors headlamps
2. 600 c.c., inline 3 or 4, OHC
3. dual front discs, rear discs.
4. yami's contri rear mono shock, swingarm, and transmission.
5. not much of electronics....

**Saerius** · 08-10-2010, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by satya_3d View Post

homologation is a process of getting approval for your vehicle from Government approved authority, like;
ARAI-Pune,
VRDE- Aehmednagar
ICAT-manesar, gurgaon
some more at chennai, Indore, they all come under NATRIP, National Automotive Testing and R&D Infrastructure Project.

coming back to topic,
say ARAI have defined some vehicle test for engine, chassis etc etc to ensure its safety and reliability. they will test each and every part, system of your vehicle, if any automotive manufacturer wants to launch his new product in market, he has to take all necessary test done by these regulatory authorities...

it ensures the safety of our society, environment and maintains enough competitiveness among all automakers.

all the best...
mh12 av 5522

Does ARAI entertain individual cases?

,for Homologation purposes, engine certification.

They Do offer homologation services to ppl who Directly Import their vehicles. (like a Ferrari, or Maserati, all our SBKs, etc.)

But do they offer the services for Home built machines?

**jd666** · 08-10-2010, 04:59 PM

afaik, homogation is for production vehicles. You can get your vehicle registered under experimental vehicle. but im not sure if you will get a road worthy certification.

**shrinathrao** · 08-10-2010, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by rahulingle1 View Post

u can find some information at ARAI web. but it did not help us out. a friend, xbhpn from chennai come to rescue he is with RE and technical engineer. he know the procedure. as he give it to. u can find it here in the same thread.
look developing a complete new engine is the ultimate aim. for now at least we can develop a crankcase !!

hey rahul why dont you come and join us in our xbhp pune G2G meetings which we have every week, this saturday its gonna be there, venue is hotel roopali on fc road.

There are many like minded people you may come across in the G2Gs

**James** · 08-11-2010, 08:21 AM

I doubt ARAI offer their services for Home built machines. Also, once they are done testing it, you'll probablly have to junk that bike and build another one!

**NANOtechnology** · 08-12-2010, 01:57 PM

well
i don't want to sound rude and illegal..
but still why are you worrying about arai ??

if you have seen the pics, you'll know that people have accomplished the task of vee-ing a bullet.
in bike india last year one dude built a bike out of a m800 engine.
don't these people ride it on roads?

lets build it first...
regarding paperwork and legality, we'll go for a legal way if it doesn't happen that way, then we'll think about other means.

the most important task is BUILDING that engine first, if it happens successfully then all these things will come in existence.
besides as far as i know even if it is not road legal with papers, you can ride it in private complexes and race tracks !!

if we as one effort build this bike and the entire community of 23 thousand people knock arai doors to get it registered, i don't think they'll still NOT to it.

don't be disheartened rahul.
lets make it first then we'll talk about legal formalities.

**rahulingle1** · 08-13-2010, 04:38 PM

hi every one there. sorry for let reply. i was at Nagpure then to Gondia. now back from journey of 2000 km within 48 hr. did so to meet some ppl from my past who can designe and helpus out. but didn't get much from the central India. every one is traveled out.

Guys i don't concern about ARAI i don't think for them ! I need V twin firing under my seat. and i m in free India to do that.
we need to creat blue prients, the good news is that we got the CAD designer, now the step will be basic measuring and creation machanical blue prients.
I can't belive this, we are doing this guyes. just search now if u have the measurements of old engine ??? thanx all.

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