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  • Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

    My main purpose to start a thread is to really understand what exactly is Extended Warranty and is it really worth.

    I own Yamaha FZ-S and during my purchase in Feb'12, I had opted for Extended Warranty by paying Rs. 777 at time of booking. It is a common trend by Yamaha showroom (Factory Shop / Dealers) to push the customer for buying the Extended Warranty by bluffing about it. This makes it really tempting (all parts will be replaced for free) for the customer to take it, as the salesperson shows the list of parts that will be covered under Extended Warranty. After completion of free services and paid services, the Extended Warranty period starts.

    Recently I had to change the clutch plates, friction plates. I told the SVC that, I have Extended Warranty, to which their reply was, "this parts don't come under warranty". I got the parts changed and paid the full amount without any arguement. The same day I mailed India Yamaha Motor (IYM) seeking clarification for same. Got a call from IYM within 2 days asking about my issue and I explain them patiently about the parts charge and labour charge for the same, the lame excuse that they gave me was,'Sir, you haven't serviced your bike on time and missed out 1st & 2nd free services respectively". I told them, everything was done on time and I have the records for same, I scan the bills and send them. Again after 2 days I get a call from IYM and this time they say, "Sir, all your records are proper, so the parts will be covered under warranty and will be free of cost, I will escalate the matter". In the mean time, I got a call from SVC asking about my complaint to IYM and I repeat the whole story to SVC guy. SVC guy was himself not aware about what parts are covered in Extended Warranty. Few days pass and got call from IYM again and the guy says, "Clutch plates come under wear and tear parts, so they will not be replaced for free", when I tell him that it is mentioned in the warranty booklet, his reply was "It is a mistake by IYM, the same has been told to HO and it will take some months to rectify it". Also, if any part goes kaput, Engineer from IYM will check the part and if they think it is a manufacturing fault, then only they will replace it for free irrespective of Extended Warranty.

    I cross checked with my friend who took the same for his R15, the booklet is absolutely same.

    The SVC guys are very reluctant to clarify about Extended Warranty and hardly throw any light on the same.

    Is their some serious loophole in IYM or they are taking the customer for a ride? I seriously doubt if the parts mentioned under Extended Warranty will be replaced for free or not.

    Apart from Yamaha, does any other company give such Extended Warranty? If so, how has the experience been?

    Check out the pics of service booklet and IYM Website:

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    Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

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    I don't know about extended warranty. But no manufacturer will ever give warranty on wear and tear parts.
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    • #3
      Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
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      I don't know about extended warranty. But no manufacturer will ever give warranty on wear and tear parts.
      Agree!! But, when they are asking the customer to take it during the time of booking a new bike, they specifically say that "All parts mentioned in the booklet will be covered free of cost, irrespective of any T&C's".

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        Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

        I don't know about this, as the sales person never brought up this 'extended warranty' topic with me.

        But what i feel is its just a marketing poly and forces the customer to service their bikes with Yamaha svc even after the free services expire. Except a few, most come under wear n tear and the company would never change them for free. Looks like they are taking customers for a ride.

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          Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

          Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
          My main purpose to start a thread is to really understand what exactly is Extended Warranty and is it really worth.

          I own Yamaha FZ-S and during my purchase in Feb'12, I had opted for Extended Warranty by paying Rs. 777 at time of booking. It is a common trend by Yamaha showroom (Factory Shop / Dealers) to push the customer for buying the Extended Warranty by bluffing about it. This makes it really tempting (all parts will be replaced for free) for the customer to take it, as the salesperson shows the list of parts that will be covered under Extended Warranty. After completion of free services and paid services, the Extended Warranty period starts.
          Seems like a huge screw up by someone along the line from Yamaha to the dealer. It seems that the so called 'Extended Warranty' is being sold as a comprehensive maintenance program rather than a cover against manufacturing defects. No warranty will cover for regular wear and tear of parts, it will only cover for manufacturing defects and quality issues.

          Its a misunderstanding or even worst a misrepresentation if someone is saying that all parts listed in the list provided will replaced within the said warranty irrespective of the cause.
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            Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

            We all know that clutch plate comes under wear & tear part and warranty does not cover these parts, but it is very bad they are fooling customers and extended warranty is just a game to take the owner to SVC only.
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              Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

              Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
              I don't know about this, as the sales person never brought up this 'extended warranty' topic with me.

              But what i feel is its just a marketing poly and forces the customer to service their bikes with Yamaha svc even after the free services expire. Except a few, most come under wear n tear and the company would never change them for free. Looks like they are taking customers for a ride.
              Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
              Seems like a huge screw up by someone along the line from Yamaha to the dealer. It seems that the so called 'Extended Warranty' is being sold as a comprehensive maintenance program rather than a cover against manufacturing defects. No warranty will cover for regular wear and tear of parts, it will only cover for manufacturing defects and quality issues.

              Its a misunderstanding or even worst a misrepresentation if someone is saying that all parts listed in the list provided will replaced within the said warranty irrespective of the cause.
              Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post
              We all know that clutch plate comes under wear & tear part and warranty does not cover these parts, but it is very bad they are fooling customers and extended warranty is just a game to take the owner to SVC only.
              That is the issue. When I interacted with Company Personnel, he said that, "it was bymistake and when you had purchased the bike, booklets had wrong information, the current booklets have been rectified". I highly doubt whether he he was saying the truth or not.

              Yamaha's website has the same parts mentioned that are there in the booklet.

              No other company offers such Extended Warranty? If there is some manufacturing defect and you have to change the part after the warranty is over, how does the company respond to your query?

              Cheerz!!
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              • #8
                Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                Bajaj doesn't provides extended warranty,although dealer MaY give, but BAJAJ isn't responsible.
                Tvs provides extended warranty BUT explains well what parts will be covered and what not .

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                • #9
                  Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                  Hello brother, I bought a R15 on 12 of march this year and also opted for the extended warranty, because all the sensors and fuel injection system, radiator and other expensive stuff was covered in it. Now reading your post I'm not sure I did the right thing. But they did tell tell me that anything that can wear and tear will not be covered.

                  If you want, I can list the parts covered in my booklet, as it is barely 6 months old, we can check if the correction has been done or not.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                    This is one reason that I never opted for the so called "Extended Warranty" all bull crap marketing strategy to take away money from the innocent customers who have no idea what is going and you have become a prey for this cheap strategy by them..
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                    • #11
                      Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                      Originally posted by Ankey View Post
                      Hello brother, I bought a R15 on 12 of march this year and also opted for the extended warranty, because all the sensors and fuel injection system, radiator and other expensive stuff was covered in it. Now reading your post I'm not sure I did the right thing. But they did tell tell me that anything that can wear and tear will not be covered.

                      If you want, I can list the parts covered in my booklet, as it is barely 6 months old, we can check if the correction has been done or not.
                      I have attached a pic of service booklet which i have, compare your booklet with mine and see if there is any change or not. If yes, post a pic here for my knowledge and for others also.

                      Cheerz!!
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                      • #12
                        Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                        Yamaha R15 March 2012 model.

                        Normal Warranty : 2 years
                        1st year : 6 Free Services
                        2nd year : 6 Paid Services

                        Extended Warranty : Starts from the 3rd Year
                        Comes with 2 Paid Service followeed by 1 free service, for 20 such services over a 3 year period.

                        Amount Paid for Extended Service : Rs 777/-
                        Amount charged generally per paid service : Rs390/- for R15s.
                        Free Services given with Extended Warranty : oddly 6

                        Basic Math : 390 x 6 = Rs2340/-

                        Rs2340 - Rs777 = Rs1553/-

                        So Extended Warranty means a saving of Rs1553/- aswell as some extended warranty so a certain no. of parts, whatever they may be.

                        P.S.: Ofcourse, someone will argue, this whole extended warranty thing requires you to service your bike on time at ASC only. I say, so what? I mean, I have clocked 6000kms in the last 2 years. Yes, only 6000kms (out of which 1000km was clocked last week in a matter of 2 days). I ride very very randomly yet I have and always will get my bike serviced on time.
                        What difference does it make? My bike's PUC shows better results than my friend's 10month old 5000km run R15, has a better throttle response than all my other friend's R15s, gives me a better mileage than most. I just love it. And I like to keep it clean.
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                          Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                          ^^ Brother, irrespective of taking Extended Warranty or not, a bike that is regularly serviced will always give optimum performance when compared to a bike that isn't serviced regularly.

                          What exactly is your post about?

                          Cheerz!!
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                          • #14
                            Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                            Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                            I have attached a pic of service booklet which i have, compare your booklet with mine and see if there is any change or not. If yes, post a pic here for my knowledge and for others also.

                            Cheerz!!
                            Ok I'm at office right now, will check it out in the evening and update.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Extended Warranty - Really Genuine or Money Making Scheme??

                              Extended warranty update:

                              I checked my booklet for the list of items that are covered and matched them with the list provided by the thread starter. Most of the parts in my booklet are different than the pic uploaded. But the plate clutch, plate pressure, plate thrust 1 and 2 are covered in my booklet as well. And I think they come under parts that wear and tear, so no correction so far in the booklet. [MENTION=47870]devils_friend[/MENTION] : brother, would you like me to upload the list of parts covered in my booklet as well?? As I said above most of the parts are different in mine. Please advice.
                              I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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