Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

A friend of mine had a 'bad time' going through his life according to the stars. So his parents sold off his bike and made him take leave for a week and stay at home doing nothing. A week after that he fell on the wet floor in his house and broke his hand!!! Unfortunate though it was, i did make it a point to go to his house and laugh loudly on his face

Another friend had gone for a Pooja because of similar reasons, after he finished his Pooja he came out to see his bike had been dropped by a passing cow, and the plastics on his R15 were all cracked! Needless to say i cracked up with laughter.

Moral of the stories, it is always funny when it happens to your friends

About you, it is rather simple. You need to improve your riding skills. Nothing else will help. Pointless blaming tyres, roads, circumstances. And nobody blames their GF. The blame game starts only after marriage Then everything that goes wrong in the world is her fault!!!

Other than MAX, Twist of the Wrist, another set of videos you can watch is Street Smarts. Very useful for urban riding. Check it out.

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Superstitious or not may not be the question. It is the presence of mind that is utmost important while riding. Often good or veteran riders meet with accident due to the following reasons.

1. Mental fatigue
2. Physical fatigue
3. distractions on road
4. Pre occupied with other thoughts
5. Judgement about the road conditions
6. Less use of all the senses
7. Bike condition - tyres, brakes, etc

These are just my observations based on the incidents that has happened in my riding life.

Cheers

Mathews

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Can't ride single. I'm in a relationship. Which automatically means I'm a chauffer for her. Lol.

I don't blame her. She blames herself. I'm constantly trying to make her understand that it isn't her fault.

Mental and psychical fatigue seem like applicable reasons for me because work has definitely taken its toll on me in the last few months. I'll try to go for a vacation soon.

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

In that case, try to relax and have cheerful conversion for about 5mins before you start your ride. Also, be aware of your surroundings as you drive and maintain safe distance. Also, practice good braking style and never panic or be tensed while driving. Ride safe bro..

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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

By any chance, you were in conversation with your GF when all this accident happened.

Reason I asked because it had happened to me that during riding when I try to have conversation with my GF I lose my concentrate on road.

We have rule that says don't talk on phone while riding / driving. But when talking to pillion / co passenger, we do tend to lose our concentrate from road.

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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Two questions from my side:
1. How old is the bike?
2. How much experienced you are on motorcycles?

I ask this because on new motorcycles even experienced riders are prone to having accidents. . It is all about understanding the machine and knowing how it behaves in different situations. I had a lakh kms on a splendor but when I shifted to Fazer, I got some heart in mouth moments. In the same speed, my splendor would have behaved how I wanted, but the Fazer was new and I didnt experienced it much.
Also, there are situations where an experienced rider can come out clean but an inexperienced rider can fall in the trap. Hence my second question that how experienced are you in riding motorcycles.

I would advice that you see more and more accident videos available on Internet on YouTube and Liveleak. They teach you a lot about what wrong can happen. I think I am an experienced rider, but I still watch them. There are situations where you cant do anything, at that time you just remember who you love the most. May be God, maybe someone else.
Let me put a situation in front of you:
There is a bus ahead of you, left lane is clear.. you take the left lane and starts overtaking the bus from the left. You spot a nano's front wheel turning right. This Nano was parked on the extrerme left service lane. If it starts moving, you would still have some space between the car and the bus. What would you do? I slowed down and moved in the lane of the bus.
The Nano was driven by a lady who pressed the accelerator too hard and turned the steering fully. In a fraction of a second the car was standing perpendicular to the road. The rear of the bus and front of the nano was about to collide but didnt. I was about to hit the nano perpendicularly at around 60 km/hr, but the lane change helped me avert the adversity. The look on the lady driver was horrifting, she had a panic attack and it was all showing on her face.. I hurled two three abuses in my mind for her.. she was Yamraaj. Anyone, I mean anyone, whether a slow rider or an expert would have got hit extremely hard had he been in the left lane. Or may be given his life in this situation.
I am not saying I am an expert, but just having looked at the turning front tyre of the nano helped me. It was luck that I didnt chose the left lane, may be my mother's well wishes.
All this hapened in 4-5 seconds. It was very very fast. You say 1 2 3 and its over.
I am on the lookout for these small things now.. if there is a passenger sitting in the car, there is a good chance that he would open the door for you!
There are hundred and thousands of such situations.. some are videographed and available for us to see, some are yet to be recorded.. just pray that we dont become the characters in those recordings.
The good thing- You are geared up. But dont rely on it to ride at insane speeds.

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

In a nut shell, look out for clues even from small, insignificant signs..

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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Your confidence must be running pretty low .
My advice to you is drive @40 km/hr in open roads and reconnect with your babe . Its like the run in phase where you'll regather the important aspects in your bike and brake better .

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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Somethings in life are inevitable. Accident is one such inevitable. No matter whether you are Mr.Bean or Rossi, it is a part n parcel of riding. At the most what v can do is, be mentally alert, have presence of the surroundings, wear proper riding gear, follow traffic rules, see that our vehicle is properly maintained, understand the capacities and limits of our vehicle and above all, pray that the other road users also know all these and act accordingly. Doing pooja or not is a personal choice and I don't agree with pillion being unlucky for u. But if u are conversing with your pillion while riding, it not only distracts u but also cuts down on the time available for reflexes in case of an untoward incident. Be positive bro, quitting biking is not the ultimate solution. Whenever u fall, get up, dust yourself and ride on. That's what life is all about.

Goodluck

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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

She's a radio. She can't stop talking. So, yes, I believe I must have been in a conversation about something.
The bike is 10 months and 11500 kms old. Before this, I have clocked a cumulative total or around 60k kms on my other bikes. I have been riding for 4 years.
I followed your advice about open roads. Took a friend, went for a 250km run on the highway and did a proper ride at around 80-90 kmph. In the burbs, people still asked us what kind of a bike it was. Whether it was an imported bike or not. Lol. We were in full gear. And both were riding the blue NS. Rode parallel to each other. Felt amazing.

But that was the highway where people follow road rules. They show indicators before changing lanes, move to the left when you flash the high beam, etc.

I'm still worried about the city roads where people have sold their brains for bricks and have come out on the road looking for trouble. Specially women drivers. Oh, man. Just the thought scares me to death.

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Although i have only 11000kms riding experience. I (thankfully) never met with an accident. Here are some tips from my side, some of which are pretty obvious but are critical for safe riding

When overtaking a moving or stationary vehicle, Keep atleast 2-3 feet distance between your bike's handlebar and that vehicle's rear view mirror/handlebar. Avoid overtaking in city if you are not comfortable. (I am never comfortable in the city :P )


never overtake from left in our narrow crowded city roads.


Avoid riding parallel to each other. Whether its highway or city. Both riders need room to manoeuvre in case of emergency.


To avoid your gf talking to you while riding. Don't respond to her conversation. Just say yes, no, okay etc. never take your eyes off the road. She will give up and stop talking to you after noticing you are not listening to her.

Low visibility, coupled with high beam of other vehicles is recipe for disaster. I very rarely overtake other vehicles after the sunset. I overtake them only when they slowdown before a speedbump or intersection.


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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

I follow these things all the time. And about the parallel riding, it was in two different lanes. Enough room for a car to pass through.

I guess it's just bad luck and I've got to get over it.

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

Hi mark.
An interesting topic.i think u got the answer in your above quote itself.after all, it might be just your mind playing games.the fact that you even went to post this topic as a discussion clearly shows it.even though you say that you are not interested in pooja and religion,the question might be bugging you in the back of your mind,whether it has to do anything with god,fate and all..yes it does.but in your case,i think its your fear.each time you get on the bike,the fear might be there in your mind whether you are gonna crash.especially when you are with your gf,you might be scared whether the crash is going to happen all over again like last time when you were riding with her.me,personally have a think of crashing every time i get on a bike.everytime i swing my leg over, i am well aware that i may crash. But the moment i start to ride,its long gone.don't get on the bike expecting a crash or accident to happen. Its ok to be aware of the risk.while you are on the road, you do have several other factors to think and search for other than a crash which is to happen,like broken patches of road, potholes,cow,dogs,stupid people who jump on to road and stand petrified, idiot drivers who turns thinking they are ken block,careless drivers talking on mobile,drivers who just veer in front of you out of the blues....etc.can give you a 1000 more factors or people who to watch out for.what i am saying is you shouldn't ride on road fearing a crash is gonna happen..focus on all the factors which might cause a crash and try to avoid it.it might be good if u ride on the city roads solo and get rid of the fear,build a little more confidence and then get your gf to ride with you. My way of thinking is never to trust anyone on road.dont expect that the other guy is gonna break.dont expect the driver in front to be in his lane while you overtake he may just turn right in front of you.this is what happened in the first case.you should be expecting some idiot to jump in front of you from parked cars. Always happens.and regarding highway,unlike u said,there are idiots even in highways who does the unexpected. So never trust your fate in someone's hand.dont jump into decisons thinking he will put indicators when he's turning,he wont brake on middle of road,he wont be overtaking now etc..always think..he might brake,turn,overtake whatever.and..one more thing..it wont hurt to just close your eyes and pray for a second everytime you get on to the bike.after all,even if you are 100% perfect,there are situations which you cant control.like your third case.being religious doesnt mean you have to do pooja on bike or sell the bike thinking its a bad omen.just be aware of your surroundings and leave the rest upto one above.and like i said try to build your confidence by riding on city roads solo before going out with your gf as pillion..funny that this came up today.i just had a crash yesterday after a very long time.luckily the only thing broken was my right footpeg.never ever think of quitting riding just because of a few scrapes.think what would have happened of isle of man tt or motogp if riders thought like this.never loose heart dude.you can overcome your fears.wish you a safe riding in future.ride safe.:thumbup:



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Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

-Change the tyres.I got the MRF one's on my NS from the showroom itself.It does make a significant difference(compared to my friend's NS with Eurogrips)
-yeah.! the handle gets pulled on the either side(not in my case,its a friend's NS)
-lastly,It is all about belief,brother go ahead with the "puja" It will surely help you clear your head even if it does nothing actually.

Re: A little help needed from non religious riders.

What is your build? Does your physique suit the bike? Some people might argue that this is not valid.. But maneuvering the bike effectively does depend on the riders height..
Ability to anticipate the moves of others on road is the key.. Master it and safe riding is a piece of cake..
Regarding the pooja stuff, respect the supernatural powers but don't depend on them..