Re: Old R1 v/s New R1 - a discussion

Discussion approved!

I think I read somewhere that they wanted to build the one from scratch this time. Also, I feel the looks would grow on us with time.
S1000RR when launched looked ugly to many. Most of them now find it beautiful.

But on the looks front, I'd agree with you. Irrespective of us loving the new one (after its looks growing on us), we'd still say the old one was better looking.
Though the underseat exhausts were a pain for the pillion.
[MENTION=30396]member[/MENTION]s - Do you think the thread should be moved to GBD section?

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Sir, with all due respect, you are grossly mistaken here.

Litre Bikes are not meant for aesthetics. They are meant to showcase the pinnacle of precision engineering. And if you judge a litre bike on aesthetics alone, you are barking up the wrong tree.
These bikes are and were never meant to look good.

And as for your comparison, the 2009 crossplane R1 was the most revolutionary bike of its time, and the most hideous R1 till date. And yet it won all the tests, until the S1000RR came, which again wasnt exactly pretty either.

Re: Old R1 v/s New R1 - a discussion

This one going to be a very hectic discussion I must say I agree with you in term of looks. I also like the old sharp monster looks with twin lamps, nothing can beat that looks of old R1 not even the new R1. I didn't not like the under seat twin exhaust looks of R1 that much compare to single under seat exhaust (CBR600RR 2006 Model).

I think this were a dilemma for Yamaha itself, how to make a bike much more beautiful than previous one as previous one is already gorgeous and excellent in term of looks hence they made it technologically advance

The new bike is perfectly fine and tremendous in term of techs but in terms of looks I don't find any other bike more beautiful than the old R1 not even the sexiest bike Daytona (personal opinion).

PS: No offence to anyone its just a discussion on looks

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I'm no expert in these matters but aren't litre class supersports supposed to be built as close to track bikes as possible. I'd read that the company has used new design philosophy for the 2015
model and have designed it to be primarily a road legal track bike. Basically Yamaha have just picked up their YZR-M1 and tinkered with it a bit added a headlight and number plate holder made it street legal without compromising much on performance.

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I like the the new R1 much more than the old one. I think it looks very mean. I never liked the bug eyed looks of old R1 but the new one's headlights looks awesome.

Even R6 looked better than old R1.

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I completely agree with you, The new R1 is indeed one hell of a machine. As far as aesthetics is concerned the bike is completely normal. But its not just about aesthetics, performance, tech stuff etc. Looks do matter, its secondary indeed but they matter. When you take a photograph of your bike you should feel " Gosh this bike looks gorgeous". Somehow you don't feel that way when you look at the new R1. It feels its just meant for racing and moto gp stuff.
And performance oriented stuff can look good for example ferraris, lamborghinis, ducatis. They are fast and equally beautiful.

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I believe we would be seeing a lot of 'odd' looking vehicles around this time as we move into the next generation of designs. It is always the case when a new design philosophy comes in that it is deemed 'ugly' 'soul less' etc but give them a few years and you start to love them.

I cannot think of a reason to have such humongous headlight assemblies and increase the weights of these track eaters.

Personally, I love the design. Absolutely japanese. Lef the beauty part to the Italians.

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Can you please make up your mind?


And if do, then Litre bikes are not for you. They are meant to devour race tracks, not pose on the streets.

And yes, they are meant just for racing. Litre bikes are not meant to be on the road, even thought they may be road legal.

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People often say that "Beauty is in the eye of beholder." I find the new R1 better than the older one. The old R1 looked beautiful. But the new R1, the new Kawasaki H2 and the S1000RR look like monsters. Just a glance at these bikes feels as if they're telling us "You puny human, handle me well or I shall devour you for breakfast! ". Just a look at these motorcycles is enough to tell that these motorcycles are absolute monsters and deserve to be handled with at most respect or else they'll surely eat us for breakfast. The Ducatis, Aprilias, etc. all look amazing; still I'm attracted to the new generation of "Ugly" motorcycles. Also, these flagship motorcycles truly represent what a company is capable of offering to its customers. Since every customer has his own preferences, it's up to the customer to make the final call. Vanity is not my preference and hence I would prefer choosing the new "Ugly" bikes.

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With all due respect to your opinions, I guess every motorcyclist has his/her own preferences. It seems that we both prefer power and technology over vanity but it can't be the same for every other motorcyclist. If people did not prefer Vanity then no one would've bought a Ducati over a BMW. The Ducatis are beautiful monsters but the BMW does most of the things better than the Ducati and that too at a cheaper price (considering western prices). Also, even though these motorcycles are meant just for tracks, these motorcycles are gonna spend most of their time on the streets. Surely, posers do not deserve riding these motorcycles but if styling is a part of motorcyclist's preferences then its his own choice. But if someone buys motorcycle solely based on how it looks then he/she doesn't deserve to buy one. Peace!!

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I'd rather not discuss this topic with someone as rude as you. And Mr You are no one to judge whether i'm capable of owning a litre class bike or not. Looks like a person who doesn't own a bike is giving such remarks. First and foremost i'm not a poser and I take biking seriously. Further I am here to discuss peacefully with others so better shut up and be away from this thread.

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Litre bike is not for you is by no means a remark on your ability of owning a bike, it is about whether you are suited for one or not. Learn English, or for that matter ask ANY ADMINISTRATOR
on the forum if my post was rude. If it was, they are free to lifetime ban me. OPEN CHALLENGE!


And as for your "shut up and be away from the thread" thing;
a) you are nobody to tell me to shut up
b) You are nobody to tell me to be away from the thread because
i) it is an open to all forum
ii) I am a member and as such entitled to post on every thread on this forum
c) Your post is rude, and I demand an unconditional public apology.
d) I am an older member than you, have 313 posts and 405 likes.

Rest assured, your post has been reported to an admin, and you may expect an infraction coming your way soon.

Also if you happen to read the second reply in the thread, I started it by saying "Sir, with all due respect, you are grossly mistaken here." And you call me rude. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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Guys, tone down a bit here!
No need to play keyboard warriors. Please concentrate on the R1.

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At first he accuses me of being rude, whereas I've been more than my dose of polite in this thread. Then he tells me to shut up and get out of the thread.

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I read his posts. Being a senior member, you shouldn't retaliate in the same manner.
Gautam, I don't think that statement - And if do, then Litre bikes are not for youwas directed at you. In case there is a confusion, sort it out via PM. Helps keep the threads clean.