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That is because all the SBK riders in this country are poser gloryhunters who do not deserve the machines they have.
And that is why all I do is see SBKs for sale like 2-4 years old with 4-6K on the odo.

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Maybe you right brother but still we don't have enough tracks in our country plus proper riding schools to learn cornering and track discipline. I agree most of those rich people just buy their bikes for showing off and they lack devotion. I know you love the new R1 and I respect your opinion. ☺😉

DUKE RIDER

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what is this major problem? is the major problem that you don't like what the new headlights look like?

if so, then that's not a problem. it's just your opinion. and you're entitled to it.

but, just say that you think the new headlights look ugly as hell. you can't say "there is a major problem".

form and function work in tandem. the design of new headlights serve some very specific purposes.


yamaha's YZF-R1 is their flagship motorcycle. there's no other bike that yamaha are more proud off.

you may sense lack of creativity. sure, that's your opinion.

but no, i don't think yamaha would abandon their design program just because they were lazy.

again. opinion. not everyone thinks salvador dali was a great artist. but that's opinion too.


Sure. Superbikes aren't 'prominent' too.

are you're assuming the R1 was developed keeping india in mind?

the only 'feature' it has keeping india in mind is a locally manufactured saree guard.

Yes. Sure. And that's why Yamaha made an R15. The R15 is made for the majority. It doesn't go fast coz you can't really go fast on indian roads.

The R15 has 'road presence'

you keep saying that you're asking everyone about their opinion. but... an opinion is "i like it" or "i don't like it."

so, if you say "yamaha have missed it in terms of design"... then that's passing judgement. and everyone on this forum is allowed to agree or disagree with you.

the new R1 is brilliantly designed. virtually every top automobile designer in the word will say so too.

fact. the bike is designed well. now with over 7 billion human opinions on earth... yea there's going to be a few million who think it looks like crap.


i'll tell you this. the day you see an older R1 and the new 2015 R1 is the flesh (not pictures and videos)...

your jaw will drop. and you will come back to this thread just to lock it down.

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Maybe or Maybe not.

DUKE RIDER

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Its a CBU. Doesnt have to go through homologation, hence no saree guard.

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Wrong... Try and understand this and remember it... It's not Yamaha's concern if India is deprived of race tracks and so it doesn't matter if trackday culture isn't prominent in our country. Eventually that doesn't negate the intent and purpose behind creating a Superbike (for Yamaha or any other manufacturer).

The other half of your post is ironic. Again you need to understand the intent behind creating a Superbike. They are Race Replicas meant to be good street bikes as well, and not the other way around. For this reason, the lighter they are the more they can be enjoyed on a race track, simple logic. A normal SBK owner would enjoy it, but a professional rider would take out its worth saving mili-seconds in a session. And that's what these motorcycles are meant for. We are just lucky to enjoy them if we can buy them.

Finally, you may not like it, but in reality it will probably have a different visual impact.

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Thats all that you looked at? Did you look at the MV Agusta Dragster? Its beautiful.
Did you look at the XJR 1300?
Did you look at the Hesketh 24?
Norton Domiracer?
These bikes are built for the purpose of being used on the street and look good at that.

Much in the same way the SBKs are meant for being fast on the track. Nobody abroad rides them on a day to day basis, because for commuting they get insanely hot, and for touring you'll break your back.
So they concentrate their efforts on making it as fast around the track as possible.

And lets face it, we are a very small market.




Bugatti Veyron? Hideous
McLaren P1? Hideous.
LaFerrari? Hideous
Pagani Zonda? Hideous
Pagani Huayra? Hideous.



1: No. Thats not it. Bikes are not meant to be show off tools. Thats why I said in the previous post that 2-4 year old SBKs for sale have just 4-6K km on them. This is why. They are used as show off tools in this country. PS: Look up RC8
2: Why do you want the onlooker to go woah? Why do insist on being a show off.
3: Thats a bad thing?
4: No bike can go at 300 kph and still be safe.




The majorit of those who ride their bikes on the street are monumental and collosal bellends who should have bought an FZ1.

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[MENTION=11962]hyper[/MENTION] retard Man i have mentioned an etc. Do look at the posts carefully. I can't mention all the bike launches.
And all those cars look beautiful and are not hideous.

DUKE RIDER

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The Zonda is not hideous?
The p1 is not hideous?
The Yamaha R1 is?




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Thats the only part of my long post you bothered replying to?

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[MENTION=43844]HyperRetard[/MENTION]
Brother I already said that I don't like the R1 and I know you like it so its absolutely ok. Lets respect each others opinions and move on.

I love those cars and you think they are hideous its again fine no problem at all after all everyone has a different perspective. Lets respect that opinion too and move on. ☺

DUKE RIDER

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I think its hideous.
And I *DON'T* ​think it matters.

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Its ok then. No problem at all.

DUKE RIDER

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Well well we all are discussing about the *beautifulness* of a sbk & i think its the only area where we will get mixed opinions for sure. As it is said beauty is in the eye of the looker. Technically yes new r1 is awesome. I hav never seen a feature list that long. Literally. Anything that comes close is the 2015 s1000rr. Its all about priorities. Some like power,some looks & some both. I am in the *BOTH* category. Well u like a thing irrespective of how the world thinks. Suppose i'l buy a ducati 899 & people will think here comes the poser. So be it. Who cares. I love it. I ride it.
Well about the cars. [MENTION=43844]HyperRetard[/MENTION] bro we are at loggerheads all the time haha.what to do. Bro you dont have a ride ???
Hmmm i think p1 yes not that good looking comparitively but others yeah hell yes. Well do you fall in love with a bike seeing its feature list ?? Well when you go out for a ride yes. Enjoy it yes. I met a xbhpian yesterday who had a jawa. He said u need to clean the spark plug every 200 kms othervise it wont run & hell lot of other things but he goes through all this trouble because he loves it. So in the same way i love the bug eyed r1 . & who can explain love
In the words of JC "look at it". Let us just discuss why we like it dats all. Not why you dont like.

Regards
Alex

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I take that back.


And while we are at it, I'll just leave the video which caused the change in my opinion.