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    Hi.
    Kindly create new thread or link this to existing one if you deem it fit. I searched a lot but could not find anything relevant.

    The idea is as follows.

    Fellow XBHPians who have confirmed a certain tour can update ,say, an excel file which will contain tours they will be undertaking sorted out by date.

    Just to keep things transparent, one can be told to display some proof of performing the tour as confirmation.
    Ex: If I want to perform a tour to say Banglore on say 25th Dec, 2015, then I should show a hotel reservation, or something like that or then just based on trust. One can be assigned trust points like driving license. One can be given 5 stars already and any failure to not perform an confirmed ride should lead to deduction of stars. A buffer time can be allocated, say if someone cancels a confirmed tour 15 days earlier, no deductions in stars, if 10 days earlier, half a star or something like that. One of the other prespectives to be considered is that say if 2 people(A and B) initiated the tour and confirmed it and say 3 more people(X,Y and Z) joined the tour. Then say L and M joined the tour. Now say A and B back off from the tour. But X,Y,Z,L and M are still doing it, so the tour has not been cancelled. So something like that needs to be worked upon. Lets see.

    Tours may also be put on "not confirmed status" with reasons like "waiting for people to join",etc.. that can be decided later if the idea is approved.

    It is completely upto the XBHPian to do this(I mean the XBHPian can keep his tour private or public)

    This would provide moral support to other XBHPians who are touring to the same place or want to join someone. Ex: 25th Dec,2015 to 27th Dec 2015 is a three day holiday. Say, I want to tour to Banglore. If I somehow knew that so and so XBHPian is also going to Banglore the same day, lone or 2/3 riders can get moral support by riding in a bigger group, more the merrier.

    So, I as an XBHpian has to just look at the excel file and see whether someone is touring to the place I want to, or can randomly join someone.

    The idea arose from the fact that I will be SOLO touring Rann of Kutch this December. I wish I could know whether fellow XBHPians are also going or not, is some XBHPian going here again? etc.. If I were to know of interested XBHPians who are also going rann or want to go to rann, it will be great. There should not be any compulsion whatsoever and people should respect others privacy also. I mean it should not happen like I go to Banglore on 25th Dec, come back, put a travelogue and people curse you that why didnt you inform earlier, even I was going there only. If people want to keep their upcoming tour private, it is upto them, if public, it is upto them.

    I dont know how practical this. I mean to make it practical, if you deem it fit, one has to have a central repository of upcoming tours or one common link, not the thread/post like method, only my suggestion.

    All the points in this idea are just suggestions.

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    Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

    GBD Approved

    Most people start a thread in the Touring Queries, route planning section. You cannot ask anyone to bind themselves to a plan, that defeats the very purpose of touring, and you surely can't keep score on a tour!!! Though i understand your intent is to streamline, but that is unlikely to work. Because motorcycling in its very basic essence is to get out of the mainstream.

    If you miss tying up with someone beforehand and meet them on the road and then decide to ride together, that will make for much better stories and memories, rather than having planned out every inch of detail. The joy of touring is not knowing what you will experience and who you will meet. That is my opinion.

    I await the thoughts of other xBhpians!

    EDIT: Another point i would like to make is that there are a lot of active tourers of xBhp who aren't regular on the forum and there are a lot of active forum users who aren't active on their motorcycles
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    • #3
      Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

      I'd love to play the devil's advocate here.

      I agree with everything that Avinash said in the above post, but I'd simply not share a trip plan of mine because I don't want my (well planned) trip to be ruined by people who only know how to rip the bike, but not ride properly. Yes, if it's a short hop I may put a note stating the plan.

      [This is exactly the point OP mentions in his port - sharing/not sharing is up to the rider. I just gave my justification.]

      I like touring solo, most of the time or else, I just have one person whom I trust as much as I trust myself. For the rest, well; less said the better!
      Group rides? Seriously? Well, I liked a certain group for their maturity w.r.t group rides but such rides happen once in a while and the ones that happen regularly - I stay away from it! Different perspective on riding? Stay away. Simple!

      Don't know how much does my post make sense w.r.t topic though!
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      • #4
        Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

        Originally posted by The Monk View Post
        GBD Approved

        EDIT: Another point i would like to make is that there are a lot of active tourers of xBhp who aren't regular on the forum and there are a lot of active forum users who aren't active on their motorcycles
        And then there are those Who Are Active in Forum and on the Roads with their bikes as well, but who Don't Tour, rather Keep riding a lot, in a circle within the city

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        • #5
          Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          .....trip to be ruined by people who only know how to rip the bike, but not ride properly.
          Very true indeed.. Infact, I never thought about this one. Get hold of mature or rather compatible riders is equally important.

          Happy that the post is approved atleast so I and fellow XBHPians get new perspectives. Also very genuine and unbiased feedback by the moderators. Many more suggestions like these can only be able to help me to change or get new perspectives.

          Just as was googling, I found something similar to the idea: Rides Calendar 2015 - Royal Enfield

          May or may not work out here.

          Regards.



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          • #6
            Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

            Originally posted by Parvez Ghadialy View Post
            Just as was googling, I found something similar to the idea: Rides Calendar 2015 - Royal Enfield
            Those guys always need to ride in a group. Because easier to carry spares for 10 bikes than for 1
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            • #7
              Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

              While I totally like the idea of a tour calendar, I totally don't like the idea of points system - the simple issue is, who decides what points to add/subtract etc means someone will have to do the managing - not something which makes much sense.

              As said above the idea of someone sticking to their plan is highly unlikely & defeats the purpose.

              What I think can be done is a simple google calendar or a spreadsheet which riders update their plans in basic. eg. 24th Dec - Day ride - Mum-Kohoj-Mum. OR 24-30dec Mum-Melghat++ - Mum. & can leave any contact detail like email etc for anyone else to join to the whole/part of the ride.

              Basically I'm saying this should be just as a info sheet to see if anyone's on the same route or in close vicinity or just acts a a motivation for someone to ride out.
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              • #8
                Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                Those guys always need to ride in a group. Because easier to carry spares for 10 bikes than for 1
                ROFL on that one... I can understand.. No offence though.

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                Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post
                While I totally like the idea of a tour calendar, I totally don't like the idea of points system - the simple issue is, who decides what points to add/subtract etc means someone will have to do the managing - not something which makes much sense.
                Point system was just a suggestion man(inspired by MOTOGP, not relevant though), just in case people think how to make it foolproof.

                Your google calender idea is superb and to treat it as INFO is brilliant, yeah thats the word "INFO". Great suggestion if you ask me. I think this is it. Thats what we all should be looking for.

                Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post
                As said above the idea of someone sticking to their plan is highly unlikely & defeats the purpose.
                Hence, the suggestion for confirmed ride with some proof.

                Thanks for your feedback.

                regards.

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                Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                GBD Approved

                Most people start a thread in the Touring Queries, route planning section.........
                Thankyou. This is equally helpful.

                Regards.



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                • #9
                  Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                  Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

                  What I think can be done is a simple google calendar or a spreadsheet which riders update their plans in basic. eg. 24th Dec - Day ride - Mum-Kohoj-Mum. OR 24-30dec Mum-Melghat++ - Mum. & can leave any contact detail like email etc for anyone else to join to the whole/part of the ride.
                  Yeah. The Moderator can be the author/owner of the document/calendar. One can post to the Moderator(not that we will hold the moderator accountable if he does not) and then he alone can make an entry in the spreadsheet. Also no penalty points whatsoever.

                  P.S: I will keep posting whatever ideas I get to a) avoid rusting of this post b) get valuable feedback. You never know, when it may get realized.



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                  • #10
                    Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    ... but I'd simply not share a trip plan of mine because I don't want my (well planned) trip to be ruined by people who only know how to rip the bike, but not ride properly...

                    my reason for not being very inclined towards large groups/ been selective about whom to ride with, is similar but different.

                    i hate it when people need a pee break, a tea break, a petrol break, a hawa break, a wada pav break, a PUC break (this was the limit), a selfie break, a sutta break....

                    the list is endless. once seated on the bike, the group (max 2-3) should be mature enough not to need to stop for at least some mutually decided distance...

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                    plus if the group is large enough (>5-6 riders) then mob mentality tends to set in, hogging the entire road, not letting the other motorists pass, unruly behavior, bullying the other road users.... this list too is endless...
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                    • #11
                      Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                      Originally posted by Kos View Post

                      i hate it when people need a pee break, a tea break, a petrol break, a hawa break, a wada pav break, a PUC break (this was the limit), a selfie break, a sutta break....

                      the list is endless. once seated on the bike, the group (max 2-3) should be mature enough not to need to stop for at least some mutually decided distance.........

                      plus if the group is large enough (>5-6 riders) then mob mentality tends to set in, hogging the entire road, not letting the other motorists pass, unruly behavior, bullying the other road users.... this list too is endless...
                      Completely agree. Same here...

                      I only halt for "GPS coordinates with date/time stamp" screenshot and selfie with "distance sign borads"15 sec break to collect data log of journey and proof that I really did it.
                      Last edited by Parvez Ghadialy; 12-10-2015, 12:01 PM.



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                      • #12
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                        Interestingly, I have a different P.O.V again.

                        I, love taking breaks! So does my trusted touring partner. That's why maybe I don't like riding in bigger groups - different riding styles and opinion on breaks.
                        While many guys cover 150-200+ km at once, I like taking breaks once every hour; irrespective of the distance traveled.

                        In fact, once while crossing Chilika lake in Odisha, I was taking breaks every 5 min to soak in the beauty first and then capture them later.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                          Interestingly, I have a different P.O.V again.

                          I, love taking breaks! So does my trusted touring partner. That's why maybe I don't like riding in bigger groups - different riding styles and opinion on breaks.
                          While many guys cover 150-200+ km at once, I like taking breaks once every hour; irrespective of the distance traveled.

                          In fact, once while crossing Chilika lake in Odisha, I was taking breaks every 5 min to soak in the beauty first and then capture them later.
                          fyi my list of 'endless' breaks does not include photography breaks, because i myself am an avid (albeit amateur) photographer, with my bike (who else) being the subject of photography.

                          technical breaks too are understandable, plus any break which is scheduled, is understandable, what i do not like is suddenly seeing one of the group members missing, only to find out they have stopped for the above mentioned breaks, or them frantically gesticulating for a break for stupid reasons. it breaks the rhythm.

                          i too couldn't help but stopping every 5 minutes when i had gone to malshej for the first time in the monsoon season.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                            Interestingly, I have a different P.O.V again.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Future/Upcoming Confirmed rides

                              Guys let's do something different this new year. Instead of drinking or partying, let's have a offline meet followed by a night ride to some hilly point like lions point lonavala or something. What say
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