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  • cc or horse power or torque ----?

    my respectful wishes to all biker buddies!

    i was for a longer period of time was quite confused with ( CC , HORSE POWER AND TORQUE) . even though if you have a higher cc engine and do not have relatively healthier horse power and torque ,driving that kind of vehicle is a cumbersome one. as of my little knowledge i felt that for a torque and horse power are quite important than cc. when doing some experimentation on this topic , i heard different answers from different people ,who are at different age group . my confusion took a monster form and started eating me. so i thought of putting up this debate into hands of experienced people.
    my actual question is----which one is more important cc or horse power or torque ? please put them in the order and also justify your answer so that there will be a clearer picture of what you suggest. kindly don't put up a one liner , justify whatever you say so that it will be an understandable one.

    ALSO DONT FORGET TO PUT UP YOUR ANSWER FOR THE POLL FLAGGED ABOVE THIS THREAD

    ps: mods if you find this topic to be old and already under debate merge it with the related,thank u !
    77
    ----CC----
    5.19%
    4
    ----HORSE POWER----
    53.25%
    41
    ----TORQUE----
    41.56%
    32

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by madengine; 05-13-2009, 04:29 PM.

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    Topic Approved.
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    • #3
      Firstly, some definitions -

      Cubic Capacity - The size of the engine. We, consumers should not even think about this. The engineers who design the engine decide its cc such that the engine meets required power delivery characteristics. So important for engineers, not for us - unless you decide to modify an engine in which case higher cc engines generally have more potential.

      Torque - It is the pulling power of an engine. More the torque, easier it is for the engine to pull load - so it feels relaxed. Also, lesser need to change gears.

      Power - It is the speed which an engine can rev up to. If an engine can pull up to greater rev, the engine is powerful. This is because this engine has a wider torque band. So, a powerful engine has greater torque at higher revs. So what happens? Each gear can pull further. Hence greater speed and acceleration.

      An analogy - In case of electricity -

      torque = voltage
      rpm = current
      power = well power (watt)

      So, finally power is what that matters.

      This is what I think. In case of any flaw in the above concept, please correct me.
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      • #4
        Torque all the way.More torque equals to
        1.better acceleration
        2.less gear shifting
        3.easy cruising while touring
        4.good for city riding
        5.more FUN!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post
          Torque all the way.More torque equals to
          1.better acceleration
          2.less gear shifting
          3.easy cruising while touring
          4.good for city riding
          5.more FUN!
          I agree with point 2. 3. 4.
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          • #6
            madengine - Nice name

            There is no substitution for CC.

            The more power / CC the more stressed the engine would be.
            The lesser the power / CC the more relaxed the engine would be - Perfect for touring

            The more torque the engine produces, the lesser u twist the throttle.

            Above all these, the power/torque graphs over the entire power band of the engine decide the characteristics of the ride!
            When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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            • #7
              Guys, balance is what is important !

              = An underpowered engine will definitely not have adequate torque to pull you in low revs all across all ranges on the tachometer!

              = A high power engine may have a lot of BHP but not necessarily the torque at low or mid rev range!

              = A well balanced engine will have all of the above.

              So, what can we expect from a 14 - 17 bhp bike? - Not much I guess!
              Life is like riding a bike. It is impossible to maintain your balance while standing still.

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              • #8
                Torque any day!
                More Torque = More Fun!

                One may need cc/power for a signal to signal race.
                But for everything else, torque rules all the way.
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                • #9
                  I Own a ZMA R... Besides that it was my dream Indian bike, I just bought it for the TORQUE it generates. higher among all indian bikes except P220.
                  Why dint I bought P220
                  Am simply not a Pulsar or Bajaj fan...

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                  • #10
                    In that case bullets are the ultimate bikes! Ultimate torque!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                      In that case bullets are the ultimate bikes! Ultimate torque!
                      but its only on the paper....it cant even climb a steep incline which a splendor can do it easily,we have checked it with my bullet and also with my friends bike..

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                      • #12
                        Enough gyan - both 2/3.

                        But 3 is anyday preferable.

                        Drive a diesel car like the Getz to understand what torque really means.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                          In that case bullets are the ultimate bikes! Ultimate torque!
                          Dude but Bullets got weight that I cant handle n they cant even handle themselves, the BULLETS! (No offence meant)
                          n yes they cant zooom like a ZMA or any other sporty bike can do... TORQUE ka right use, toh hi TORQUE me fun hai bro!
                          Last edited by spiderweb; 05-14-2009, 06:15 PM.

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                          • #14
                            That is what I was trying to say - power matters more than torque!
                            Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                            • #15
                              ^^^DUDE, TORQUE is supposed to be pulling power, isnt it? So whats the use of power when it cant pull n just revv n roar n scare the surrounding animals aways...

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