i know ur fiero is a beast but would love it if the R15 can do those figures

Yup, no worries, I'm working on some all-out radical project based on the R15 and the development is in constant pace. The outcome will be seen in about 2 months. However the funny thing is that, even after all this, the Fiero will still get even faster. The target would be under 4 secs to 100kph and a quarter mile figure of atleast 13 secs with an exit of around 155kph.
However the difference is that, the Fiero is an out and out drag machine, while the R15 will be reliable and powerful track bike. Come drag and the R15 will also shine on similar lines, but the Fiero still has a little edge courtesy some engine fundamentals which cant be changed.

@joel i dont know y but i'm having a very good feeling that the karizma will also be a very big surprize

it simply rocks..bad days for 220s

The Karizma is already popping wheelies between shifts and its still running stock Carb,CDI, stage 2 cam and a smaller and almost stock intake port and stock gearing too.
Things to change are the carb (coz its 260cc and the stock carb supports only around 200cc best), stage 3 full race cam, need to reprofile the change the geometry for higher flow rates, switch to a different CDI and revise the gearing. Last but not least, revise the handling and lighten the bike a bit more.
All this should make it one crazy machine.

Fantastic work there...You have now entered the supercars category wherein u can go head to head with some exotic cars.. Ever thought of smoking any of those Supras/GTRs in Bangy??

will be in bangalore by the 15th, really wanna seee all ur beats it's going to be a treat for me

Man, wen i get better in the track, i would really want to ride one of your bike. Also i wanted to ask about that 2 stroker which was popping wheelies during shifts in the pits. How much power would they generate ?
BTW, nice meeting you, though it was brief.

@joel :just thought of sharing this

Two Brothers Racing :: Yamaha R15

again-too costly .good thing is tht it is available at a smaller higher price at planet dsg.

^^ do u have the dsg link??

hi Joel,

i have been following your thread.. now i can't help but comment something. how is it even possible ('m not doubting.. just overwhelmed) :the ferrari timings. all the very best.

I respect all your builds from bottom of my heart bro, seriously hats off to you, But i guess this post of you claiming under 4 secs to 100 is highly highly optimistic and even if its a drag build it cannot be achieved.
Even a stock R1 & R6 takes close to 3.5 to 3.7 secs to 100 with a good rider which belts out more than 1000bhp/ tonne and here we are talking about a 165cc setup, even if it weighs as low as 45-50 kgs the under 4 secs kinda sounds IMPOSSIBLE... I'd love to be proven wrong but....

Well, to understand that you really need to start strapping a v-box on drag machines.
Drag machines are not built like a street stock machine and they have a revised gearing unlike any road going bike. What if I tell you drag bikes, our puny 2-strokes are already doing 3-3.5secs to 100kph? I'm talking about indian RDs and the factory shaolin. Get ur facts right and then we'll speak.
An R1 is a street stock machine from factory and is not geared to be a drag machine. I'm targetting 4 secs to 100kph and it will be the first 4-stroke in the country to crack into this territory.
A drag bike is geared really tall in the first 2 gears. Basically u end up shifting only once to get to over 100kph. The other 3 gears are closely spaced to just do the task of carrying over the momentum.
There are 12 secs bikes in the country which are already doing some insane timings. You might wanna visit atleast once recent race.
I'm currently doing under 6 secs (dont wanna specify the time for obvious reasons) and I have a few more things to do before I crack into 5 sec flat in 3 weeks.
There is a lot to tuning an engine and building a race bike, than mere logics from other stock counterparts. Remember this is a purpose built bike. A stock superbike is more lavish on its purpose.
In the 80s, the turbo charged WRC cars were as fast as the F1 cars of those days. They were doing 2.5secs to 100kph on gravel. With a limited top-speed of around 250kph. Does that mean, the F1 car was making lesser power? Thats coz the rally cars were geared as such.
You can build a bike which does 100kph in 3 secs with a 40bhp motor. Wanna know how? = Gearing!

Eager to know how the new set up is coming along mate

well!! no words to describe my feelings for you .. but still i want to say
"Joel, we are normal indians(except you) so itz very hard to believe that a 150cc indian motor takes a fly even if it is for a few secs over bigger bikes."

the above is the reason that people are totally shocked to see figures you have mentioned, although i too was shocked but by your above post i understood a bit of the technie thingy.
and also you made me remind of my limits..